NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)


User avatar
Aeronaut
Aeronaut
He/Him
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Aeronaut
He/Him
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 7236
Joined: September 8, 2013
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Boston, MA

Post Post #850 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:51 pm

Post by Aeronaut »

In post 849, Majiffy wrote:
In post 848, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 834, Majiffy wrote:
In post 832, Psyche wrote:that is the lamest case ever and you know it

As opposed to your case on me which relies entirely on "zomg maj is pushing tree for [wrong reasons given!]"?


Alright. The last five pages have been people calling Majiffy out on his tree wagon and then NotScience saying LOLZ, WHATEVER YOU SAY MY LORD AND SAVIOR JIFFY, then random-ass fluff from NotScience and more of Notscience saying "Lets lynch Aero and Titus" without actually voting for anyone. Welcome to fucking apathy city.

Reads list upcoming.

Present a case.


Present a case? It's literally a fact. NS keeps saying "lets wagon Aero or Titus" without actually voting for either of us. Again, another person presenting an opinion without any weight.
2023 W/L | 1-0
User avatar
Majiffy
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
User avatar
User avatar
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
Go with the Flow
Posts: 23825
Joined: November 23, 2011
Location: Memphis, TN

Post Post #851 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:53 pm

Post by Majiffy »

Maybe you missed the part where he's compromising with me on Tree today.

But that would require reading the thread, something a good percentage of this game apparently has no idea how to do.
Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.


How To Win Every Game At Mafiascum (The Flowchart)
||
In case anyone was unsure...
Svenskt Stål (23:38) majiffy, worst mod on ms? we talk to a surviving victim of his game
User avatar
Psyche
Psyche
he/they
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Psyche
he/they
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 10901
Joined: April 28, 2011
Pronoun: he/they

Post Post #852 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:01 pm

Post by Psyche »

and you're still pushing a lame rvs wagon
You can't step in the same river twice.
User avatar
Majiffy
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
User avatar
User avatar
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
Go with the Flow
Posts: 23825
Joined: November 23, 2011
Location: Memphis, TN

Post Post #853 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:03 pm

Post by Majiffy »

It is neither lame nor RVS.
Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.


How To Win Every Game At Mafiascum (The Flowchart)
||
In case anyone was unsure...
Svenskt Stål (23:38) majiffy, worst mod on ms? we talk to a surviving victim of his game
User avatar
farside22
farside22
Mafia Mum
User avatar
User avatar
farside22
Mafia Mum
Mafia Mum
Posts: 35785
Joined: October 24, 2007
Location: Buffalo, NY

Post Post #854 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:03 pm

Post by farside22 »

In post 812, Majiffy wrote:
In post 810, farside22 wrote:
In post 801, Majiffy wrote:
In post 798, farside22 wrote:
I'm curious what in oka's play changed your views from town to null?


But people agree that Tex is scum just didn't say anything about the team thing.

Reading the ISO. Which I said.


It doesn't matter what other people say. There is a viable wagon on a person that must be scum based on your arguments for texscum. Ergo your vote is bad unless you vote the person that already has a wagon instead of trying to start a new one.


See clearly you did not read what I wrote.
No one said they agreed.
I'm scum reading tex.
You did not say you agreed with my reason, you just want me to vote tree.

Your just don't care unless tree gets a vote

... I read what you wrote.
I never said people did agree.
I know you're scumreading tex. That's part of my point.
Your reason necessitates treescum.

Seriously what the fuck are you on.

In post 811, farside22 wrote:
Your not explaining your point then.
I put a thought process I've seen and again all you want is a vote for tree based on a behavoir that you don't say you agree with.

See when people don't agree then I think maybe I'm wrong with what I recall
I do lack some confidence with scum/ scum relations.

It doesn't matter if I agree or not.

If your argument for Texscum is "Texscum is behaving in a way that implicates Treescum", and you refuse to vote Treescum, the more viable wagon, you are being internally inconsistent.

And your backpedaling by claiming that you are now unsure about your Texscum read because no one is agreeing with you is inconsistent because you're being sticky with your vote.



No you focused only on the tree part of my post.

My main issue with tex was this

In post 680, farside22 wrote:
In post 677, texcat wrote:
In post 672, farside22 wrote:
Texcat mentions a lot about tree in the post I quoted but vote for aero for an unknown reason.
I typically see that from newbscum. Where you mention a player you don't like but vote the other and the person you have more issue with is your scum buddy.

I mentioned Tree because I had just finished reading 10 pages about Tree. I stated how I felt about the big wagon of the day, that I didn't understand or like the double claim, but didn't see it as particularly scummy. I then voted Aero, who I do find scummy, based on his interactions with Elyse, as I thought I had clearly stated.

Your voting based on some crap rule about mentioning one player and voting another is just that, crap.


I'm voting you because (1) I don't know what you find scummy and (2) asking a wifom question about a player you didn't state a scum read on but imply possible scum motive.


Last I look he quoted élysées post as why he think aero is scummy.
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
User avatar
notscience
notscience
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
notscience
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 23081
Joined: March 25, 2013
Location: Haven Springs

Post Post #855 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:04 pm

Post by notscience »

I think someone needs a tissue
Show
STRIKE HARD

STRIKE FAST

NO MERCY
User avatar
notscience
notscience
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
notscience
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 23081
Joined: March 25, 2013
Location: Haven Springs

Post Post #856 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:05 pm

Post by notscience »

Although, I'd be apathetic too if my whole scumteam got called out D1

/shrug
Show
STRIKE HARD

STRIKE FAST

NO MERCY
User avatar
Psyche
Psyche
he/they
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Psyche
he/they
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 10901
Joined: April 28, 2011
Pronoun: he/they

Post Post #857 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:07 pm

Post by Psyche »

In post 853, Majiffy wrote:It is neither lame nor RVS.


look at the people who are on your wagon with you
You can't step in the same river twice.
User avatar
Majiffy
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
User avatar
User avatar
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
Go with the Flow
Posts: 23825
Joined: November 23, 2011
Location: Memphis, TN

Post Post #858 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:09 pm

Post by Majiffy »

In post 857, Psyche wrote:
In post 853, Majiffy wrote:It is neither lame nor RVS.


look at the people who are on your wagon with you

I'm pretty ok with it.
Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.


How To Win Every Game At Mafiascum (The Flowchart)
||
In case anyone was unsure...
Svenskt Stål (23:38) majiffy, worst mod on ms? we talk to a surviving victim of his game
User avatar
Aeronaut
Aeronaut
He/Him
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Aeronaut
He/Him
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 7236
Joined: September 8, 2013
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Boston, MA

Post Post #859 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:10 pm

Post by Aeronaut »

In post 851, Majiffy wrote:Maybe you missed the part where he's compromising with me on Tree today.

But that would require reading the thread, something a good percentage of this game apparently has no idea how to do.

What happens if Tree flips town?
2023 W/L | 1-0
User avatar
tn5421
tn5421
he/him
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
tn5421
he/him
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 3000
Joined: March 30, 2014
Pronoun: he/him

Post Post #860 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:12 pm

Post by tn5421 »

In post 859, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 851, Majiffy wrote:Maybe you missed the part where he's compromising with me on Tree today.

But that would require reading the thread, something a good percentage of this game apparently has no idea how to do.

What happens if Tree flips town?


Then we lose a VI; no big deal in my opinion.
WIP
User avatar
farside22
farside22
Mafia Mum
User avatar
User avatar
farside22
Mafia Mum
Mafia Mum
Posts: 35785
Joined: October 24, 2007
Location: Buffalo, NY

Post Post #861 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:12 pm

Post by farside22 »

In post 813, Psyche wrote:i can't believe anyone could be so aggressively stupid


It gets worse and worse.


In post 818, Majiffy wrote:
In post 816, Psyche wrote:and i just don't understand how you can so consistently go around having confident reads when every time ive encountered them in the wild they've sucked

Would you prefer I use a less successful playstyle?

I'm not going to dumb down my game just because I have a few bad reads.

How's your success record?


Your success record

Let's talk about 2 games we were both in here for a moment.

Bel game you listed in tha games pants, Anatole, messiah and me as scum.
Only one out if four was correct.
Next let's talk reck game.
Oversoul, hoopla, bob and chamber. You also voted Mollie that game.
So out of that 2 scum reads were correct.

That's means you current scum read which last I looked had me , pyche, tree, aero (did I miss someone?) are scum. Since I recall both games early calls as pushing logic like you are and they were wrong please lynch me so people don't listen to you till you stop the over the top actions.
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
User avatar
notscience
notscience
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
notscience
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 23081
Joined: March 25, 2013
Location: Haven Springs

Post Post #862 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:13 pm

Post by notscience »

Funny, I don't remember scumreads on all you being dependent on reads on each other

pedit

^@TN
Show
STRIKE HARD

STRIKE FAST

NO MERCY
User avatar
farside22
farside22
Mafia Mum
User avatar
User avatar
farside22
Mafia Mum
Mafia Mum
Posts: 35785
Joined: October 24, 2007
Location: Buffalo, NY

Post Post #863 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:13 pm

Post by farside22 »

In post 860, tn5421 wrote:
In post 859, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 851, Majiffy wrote:Maybe you missed the part where he's compromising with me on Tree today.

But that would require reading the thread, something a good percentage of this game apparently has no idea how to do.

What happens if Tree flips town?


Then we lose a VI; no big deal in my opinion.


If I wAnted a vi lynch I'd vote you or Pere first.
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
User avatar
tn5421
tn5421
he/him
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
tn5421
he/him
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 3000
Joined: March 30, 2014
Pronoun: he/him

Post Post #864 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:17 pm

Post by tn5421 »

In post 863, farside22 wrote:
In post 860, tn5421 wrote:
In post 859, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 851, Majiffy wrote:Maybe you missed the part where he's compromising with me on Tree today.

But that would require reading the thread, something a good percentage of this game apparently has no idea how to do.

What happens if Tree flips town?


Then we lose a VI; no big deal in my opinion.


If I wAnted a vi lynch I'd vote you or Pere first.


>ignores known gambit whore
>ignores bullshit IC / dayvig claim
>would rather push town and some dude named Pear (sry peregrine)
>k
WIP
User avatar
farside22
farside22
Mafia Mum
User avatar
User avatar
farside22
Mafia Mum
Mafia Mum
Posts: 35785
Joined: October 24, 2007
Location: Buffalo, NY

Post Post #865 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:18 pm

Post by farside22 »

In post 847, Psyche wrote:sigh, reinoe
just because he knows how to spell obfuscate doesn't mean he's competent at word-fu


This is sig worthy!
Keeping this for after game.
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
User avatar
farside22
farside22
Mafia Mum
User avatar
User avatar
farside22
Mafia Mum
Mafia Mum
Posts: 35785
Joined: October 24, 2007
Location: Buffalo, NY

Post Post #866 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:21 pm

Post by farside22 »

In post 864, tn5421 wrote:
In post 863, farside22 wrote:
In post 860, tn5421 wrote:
In post 859, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 851, Majiffy wrote:Maybe you missed the part where he's compromising with me on Tree today.

But that would require reading the thread, something a good percentage of this game apparently has no idea how to do.

What happens if Tree flips town?


Then we lose a VI; no big deal in my opinion.


If I wAnted a vi lynch I'd vote you or Pere first.


>ignores known gambit whore
>ignores bullshit IC / dayvig claim
>would rather push town and some dude named Pear (sry peregrine)
>k



I'm sorry, correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you a hydra in the large game were wake did his gambit?
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
User avatar
farside22
farside22
Mafia Mum
User avatar
User avatar
farside22
Mafia Mum
Mafia Mum
Posts: 35785
Joined: October 24, 2007
Location: Buffalo, NY

Post Post #867 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:22 pm

Post by farside22 »

I can double check that if need be tn.
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
User avatar
Psyche
Psyche
he/they
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Psyche
he/they
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 10901
Joined: April 28, 2011
Pronoun: he/they

Post Post #868 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:22 pm

Post by Psyche »

tbh the last time i had a correct scumread without PR support was back in the 90s when after 2 years of living i finally discerned that my mom was in fact a scum roleblocker
You can't step in the same river twice.
User avatar
tn5421
tn5421
he/him
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
tn5421
he/him
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 3000
Joined: March 30, 2014
Pronoun: he/him

Post Post #869 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:24 pm

Post by tn5421 »

In post 866, farside22 wrote:
In post 864, tn5421 wrote:
In post 863, farside22 wrote:
In post 860, tn5421 wrote:
In post 859, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 851, Majiffy wrote:Maybe you missed the part where he's compromising with me on Tree today.

But that would require reading the thread, something a good percentage of this game apparently has no idea how to do.

What happens if Tree flips town?


Then we lose a VI; no big deal in my opinion.


If I wAnted a vi lynch I'd vote you or Pere first.


>ignores known gambit whore
>ignores bullshit IC / dayvig claim
>would rather push town and some dude named Pear (sry peregrine)
>k



I'm sorry, correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you a hydra in the large game were wake did his gambit?


I don't see Wake fakeclaiming IC and pretending to dayvig people.

The difference between then and now is I was fairly confident that Wake was town, but I can't say the same thing for tree/reinoe.
WIP
User avatar
tn5421
tn5421
he/him
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
tn5421
he/him
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 3000
Joined: March 30, 2014
Pronoun: he/him

Post Post #870 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:26 pm

Post by tn5421 »

Yeah, the hydra was Burning_TowN, with Burning_Earth.

Definitely not my best work.
WIP
User avatar
Majiffy
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
User avatar
User avatar
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
Go with the Flow
Posts: 23825
Joined: November 23, 2011
Location: Memphis, TN

Post Post #871 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:30 pm

Post by Majiffy »

In post 861, farside22 wrote:
Let's talk about 2 games we were both in here for a moment.

Bel game you listed in tha games pants, Anatole, messiah and me as scum.
Only one out if four was correct.
Next let's talk reck game.
Oversoul, hoopla, bob and chamber. You also voted Mollie that game.
So out of that 2 scum reads were correct.

Which Bel game? Flying Aces? The one I was lynched D1 in?
My primary scumread was scum. God forbid some of my other scumreads are town on D1! :roll: I bet you're flawless.

Next, Reck's game. Killed N2. 2/5 scumreads correct.
Also not bad. Oh right, one of those scumreads that was right, I was pushing D1.

Huh. Look at that.
Major pushes, D1, both flipped scum.

Discredit me more.

In post 861, farside22 wrote:
That's means you current scum read which last I looked had me , pyche, tree, aero (did I miss someone?) are scum. Since I recall both games early calls as pushing logic like you are and they were wrong please lynch me so people don't listen to you till you stop the over the top actions.

My primary reads are Tree and Psyche.

So if we go with my history of primary reads D1 flipping scum, just like the two examples you gave, then maybe you should listen a little more.


Unless you want to ignore your own examples. I mean, that's probably going to happen. Cuz why not, yeah?

Must suck when shit blows back in your face.
Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.


How To Win Every Game At Mafiascum (The Flowchart)
||
In case anyone was unsure...
Svenskt Stål (23:38) majiffy, worst mod on ms? we talk to a surviving victim of his game
User avatar
reinoe
reinoe
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
reinoe
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 3380
Joined: March 10, 2014
Location: Reno, NV

Post Post #872 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:32 pm

Post by reinoe »

In post 870, tn5421 wrote:Yeah, the hydra was Burning_TowN, with Burning_Earth.

Definitely not my best work.

I thought it was some of your best work.
Scum typically need to fabricate reasons for scumreads...

Selkie
User avatar
Majiffy
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
User avatar
User avatar
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
Go with the Flow
Posts: 23825
Joined: November 23, 2011
Location: Memphis, TN

Post Post #873 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:33 pm

Post by Majiffy »

In post 859, Aeronaut wrote:
What happens if Tree flips town?

Then we look at the interactions with the wagon.

Like you do with any flip from anyone in any game.
:neutral:
Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.


How To Win Every Game At Mafiascum (The Flowchart)
||
In case anyone was unsure...
Svenskt Stål (23:38) majiffy, worst mod on ms? we talk to a surviving victim of his game
User avatar
reinoe
reinoe
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
reinoe
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 3380
Joined: March 10, 2014
Location: Reno, NV

Post Post #874 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:33 pm

Post by reinoe »

In post 872, reinoe wrote:
In post 870, tn5421 wrote:Yeah, the hydra was Burning_TowN, with Burning_Earth.

Definitely not my best work.

I thought it was some of your best work.

In this game you seem to have regressed to some of the things that have been getting you perpetually mislynched.
Scum typically need to fabricate reasons for scumreads...

Selkie

Return to “Completed Large Normal Games”