Mini 1597: Runecast Mafia - Day 5

[fferyllt]

VC 2.5

Northward a hall
in Nithavellir
Of gold there rose
for Sindri's race;
And in Okolnir
another stood,
Where the giant Brimir
his beer-hall had.

A hall I saw,
far from the sun,
On Nastrond it stands,
and the doors face north,
Venom drops
through the smoke-vent down,
For around the walls
do serpents wind.

Ansuz

(4): TunnelMates, Mantisdreamz, Burning_Earth, Konowa

geraintm

(3): Osseus pseudotripodis, Kthxbye, Ansuz

LynxKuroneko

(1): gameplay506

Mantisdreamz

(1): d3x

Osseus pseudotripodis

(1): LynxKuroneko

Not Voting

(2): geraintm, HighShroomish

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: September 3, Midnight US Eastern Time

Countdown: (expired on 2014-09-02 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- Searching for a replacement for Highshroomish
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[Konowa]

Konowa will get to the spaz of posts from Ansuz in a second, but Konowa believes that Konowa has already answered Mantisdreamz's questions in a previous post. Konowa believes that post #550 will give Mantisdreamz answers to Mantisdreamz questions.

[geraintm]

Do you think I am scummy or something?

...duh?...

But if that is the case, why isn't he voting for me?

[geraintm]

To summertime what I know

Hiplop was town
I am town

I believe gameplay to be down
These three things make me think the following about ozzy.

539 - the switch to hiplop. Remember hiplop is going to turn up town.

702 - a vote for me. In my eyes, almost all of ozzy's votes are on townies.

BERT
DEAR BERT
can you please tell me what about this case, based on the quotes I've selected, is bullshit?

Explain to me. I know the alignment of two people ly, myself and hiplop. I have a strong lean on gameplay. I am basing my voting on how I interpret the actions of others.
I realise none of you can go through the same logical process as myself as none of you know I am town, but am I meant to play this game thinking I am scum or something?

Pleas,e, please explain where my reasoning for my own vote breaks down.

[geraintm]

To summertime what I know

Hiplop was town
I am town

I believe gameplay to be down
These three things make me think the following about ozzy.

539 - the switch to hiplop. Remember hiplop is going to turn up town.

702 - a vote for me. In my eyes, almost all of ozzy's votes are on townies.

BERT
DEAR BERT
can you please tell me what about this case, based on the quotes I've selected, is bullshit?

I"M NOT BERT BUT I CAN ANSWER

THE ANSWER IS EVERYTHING! EVERYTHING IS BULLSHIT!

Hey for bonus reading, go read his reaction to our vote on Day 1.

My response to your vote yesterday is very consistent. If someone votes for someone I know to be town then my radar is going to be set off. That's....normal. Isn't it? You are meant to react when that happens or am I playing this game wrong?

[Osseus pseudotripodis]

listen to me very carefully

you don't know the alignment of anyone except yourself unless you're scum or a mason

stop fucking saying "I know to be town" because unless you're scum NO YOU DON'T

[Osseus pseudotripodis]

in other news gerain is still not town

[gameplay506]

I think Ansuz and gera are town cus yolo

[geraintm]

listen to me very carefully

you don't know the alignment of anyone except yourself unless you're scum or a mason

stop fucking saying "I know to be town" because unless you're scum NO YOU DON'T

The only two people I have said I know are town are me and hiplop. And that I strongly believe gameplay is. Ansuz seems to be picking up my logic because I am pointing out when I see people voting for people I know to be town.

[Osseus pseudotripodis]

You don't get to decry a lynch after the flip. It's not the same thing.

[Mantisdreamz]

Konowa will get to the spaz of posts from Ansuz in a second, but Konowa believes that Konowa has already answered Mantisdreamz's questions in a previous post. Konowa believes that post #550 will give Mantisdreamz answers to Mantisdreamz questions.

Spoiler:

Inactivity has little to do with why Konowa wants to lynch HighShroomish.

So we have two people who decide to call everyone on their wagon scum in one game. Nice.

This post preceded both Osseus pseudotripodis and Konowa's vote. Konowa agreed with Osseus pseudotripodis's post #389. Between post #231, where it appears that HighShroomish is reading gameplay506 as town, and the above generalization of scumminess without drawing any conclusions, Konowa felt that that was enough to vote for HighShroomish. Does Mantisdreamz disagree with the reasoning behind the vote or the vote itself?

Konowa unvoted gameplay506 to see if giving gameplay506 a little bit of rope would help gameplay506 contribute without constant threat of a lynch. Alas, it has not.

i know you wrapped up your answer in a nice little package via post 550. but i dunno if i would consider that post of HS's enough, post 338: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p6113318, for a vote. seems like sarcasm (on HS's part, to an extent)

i do think oss is town.. even though i don't agree with his vote there. but you followed him.

[Mantisdreamz]

even though you were still pressuring GP.

[Mantisdreamz]

in other news gerain is still not town

maybe ya

[Mantisdreamz]

UNVOTE: ansuz

[Kthxbye]

Do you think I am scummy or something?

...duh?...

But if that is the case, why isn't he voting for me?

Sigh, you guys probably won't like this, but while writing this, I went and looked at HS's latest finished game where he was town.
viewtopic.php?f=83&t=58399
Part of me wants to keep pushing for votes on him to make him active. Sadly, I can't as his lack of anything this game matches the above linked town game.

/sigh....forgot I already researched him and still think ^that after a 2nd look.

VOTE: geraintm

Nice try.

[Kthxbye]

Guess what alignment geraintm is....

HINT: Rhymes with gum.

[Burning_Earth]

To summertime what I know

Hiplop was town
I am town

I believe gameplay to be down
These three things make me think the following about ozzy.

539 - the switch to hiplop. Remember hiplop is going to turn up town.

702 - a vote for me. In my eyes, almost all of ozzy's votes are on townies.

BERT
DEAR BERT
can you please tell me what about this case, based on the quotes I've selected, is bullshit?

HOLY SHIT THAT IS TERRIBLE.

Ansuz can wait VOTE: Geraintm

[geraintm]

Burning earth, why is it terrible? What exactly.am.i doing that is so bad?

I don't get it. I went back through someone's actions using the info available to me now and reviewed it all.

[LynxKuroneko]

I wouldn't worry too much about what Burning_Earth says, as he often just follows the most recent popular thought on somebody.

But since he's putting himself out there; sure! B_E, what are your *thoughts*?

[fferyllt]

gameplay506 has requested replacement. searching...

[LynxKuroneko]

Oh no, gameplay506 is leaving? Who's going to give me the attention I crave so?

[Ansuz]

Routine post of intrigue.

I hammered hiplop because we were getting nowhere, fast. We had four days left to get wagon reactions, yet certain folk were against playing detective.

I'm all for wagons. Whereas Ansuz, d3x, Burning_Earth and Osseus were all for blood (even though Ansuz first stated he'd wait for more content from hiplop before voting him). In the end, being willing to risk lynching town isn't as pro-town as trying to get a better read on others.

But Konowa insisted on badgering gameplay506, even after changing votes.
HighShroomish was comfortably under the radar.
Burning_Earth was happy with hopping onto wagons.
TM was doing his D1 Idgaf routine.
Can't forget geraintm and Mantis!

tl;dr - Town was clearly settling for sitting around and having someone dead, regardless.

Its ironic that the ones under suspicion are now having a nice conversation. Keep it up, my interest is piqued.

I said that I would hammer hiplop if his next series of posts were as bad as the last series of posts (they were). I would have voted him immediately if I knew that it wouldn't be a hammer when I voted him, hence my vote after d3x's post. You blaming your hammer on the rest of the town is bad: I assume that you have the mental capacity to make your own decisions, and I assume you know that if you want someone alive you don't kill them. There was no reason you couldn't do your detective work when people wanted hiplop dead. It's not like the undivided participation of the town is needed to ask questions, no? You could also be doing detective work now with the lynch candidates who are talking, but instead all you are doing is talking about what went wrong yesterday (which, believe it or not, helps us approximately not at all today). Why is that?

[Ansuz]

Ansuz. You make no sense. Plz stop.

What didn't make sense? If you need me to, I can hold your hand through my logic.

[Ansuz]

Do you think I am scummy or something?

...duh?...

But if that is the case, why isn't he voting for me?

He is...? And even if he wasn't, I don't see an issue of having two suspects and voting one instead of both.

[Ansuz]

To summertime what I know

Hiplop was town
I am town

I believe gameplay to be down
These three things make me think the following about ozzy.

539 - the switch to hiplop. Remember hiplop is going to turn up town.

702 - a vote for me. In my eyes, almost all of ozzy's votes are on townies.

BERT
DEAR BERT
can you please tell me what about this case, based on the quotes I've selected, is bullshit?

Explain to me. I know the alignment of two people ly, myself and hiplop. I have a strong lean on gameplay. I am basing my voting on how I interpret the actions of others.
I realise none of you can go through the same logical process as myself as none of you know I am town, but am I meant to play this game thinking I am scum or something?

Pleas,e, please explain where my reasoning for my own vote breaks down.

I grasp your logic perfectly, and will happily explain why it is scum logic as soon as Bert responds to my question, since I didn't ask him for absolutely no reason.