NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)


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Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:58 pm

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In post 1273, notscience wrote:Nope.

My reasoning is I need his vote and voice and the people on the wagon to help lynch titus tomorrow.

pedit-

Why does town have to try to look like anything?

Because if you get lynched as town because you weren't being serious or you looked scummy, then you've failed the town and hurt your wincon. Basic Mafia.
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Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:59 pm

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Lol NS you only made a deal with Majiffy not everyone on the wagon.
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Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:01 pm

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Nah

Everyone on the wagon would follow suit

but okay~

I'm done arguing with you

Enjoy your shit reads!

As for town-

Anyone who sacrifices looking genuine in their posts is hurting their wincon and failing town.

Note: I've been dicking around most of the game and still look WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more town than either of you who have been playing "Serious"

So, nice try.
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Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:04 pm

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Hm NS don't get hurt but I am getting the feeling that you are dumb town.
Aero jump on TSO. NS is too butthurt from being proven wrong, to react properly. Not vote-worthy
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Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:05 pm

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Nah

I'm on the path to victory

But okay, sure, you proved me wrong

Enjoy being on a counterwagon with a scumfuck~
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Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:05 pm

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Ok I will :p
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Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:11 pm

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Do you understand the meaning of the word "opportunistic?"
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:24 pm

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Because, if you're accusing me of first calling tree town, then engaging in an argument with Majiffy and losing, the perfect moment to be "opportunistic" would be there. Instead, I still put forward my belief in tree-town, noted a terrible move -onto- tree, voted Aeronaut and then restarted a stagnant wagon.

That's probably the opposite of opportunism.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:31 pm

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Yeah I am not going to be on the aero wagon because I think he claimed pr.
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Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:33 pm

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I'm a 1 shot global watcher.

Guess you can't wagon me now either.
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Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:35 pm

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Do you think I am still scum?
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Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:36 pm

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Yep!

I'm just pointing out the obvious issue with your PoV so noone with a town PM thinks that's an okay way to think
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Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:37 pm

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Is it the same reason you said before?
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Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:37 pm

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Yup!
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Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:38 pm

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you are all really bizarre
You can't step in the same river twice.
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Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:39 pm

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In post 1055, OkaPoka wrote:I was aggressive in a push because I thought gameplay was full of bs and wanted to lynch him. I felt he was scum and he played all secretly for no reason when he could've brought nothing up and make us not post pages about nothin.



And you think nothing of this?
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Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:40 pm

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In post 1289, Psyche wrote:you are all really bizarre


do you know how the word bizarre came into existence?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:06 pm

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Alright, there need to be more hours in the day just so I can keep up with this game. I'm going to work on the 30 or so pages I've missed, but if anyone would like to direct any questions or comments at me in the meantime, I'll try to address them.
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Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:29 pm

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In post 668, Alina wrote:@Shaddowez Why are you scumreading gameplay and TSO? I can see the other two, but I'm not getting any scumvibes from TSO/gameplay. What are your thoughts on OkaPoka? I'm trying to avoid tunneling again so if you think this is town VS town please help. ALSO ALINSKIIES <3 Didn't notice the farside catch actually, that's... interesting.


I'm really not liking gameplay, but I'm thinking more and more that it's newbtown than scum. It'd be a hell of a reach to be making a gambit out of the mountainous setup and multiball questions to Wake. It could be a play, but I'm not going to get into that WIFOM here.

TSO has done very little in the ways of scumhunting, and most of his posts are full of random crap, occasionally opposing what somebody else said, but not really backing up why he's arguing against it. In his argument with Majiffy about Tree, he completely disregarded the fact(until the very end) that Majiffy wasn't voting Tree purely on the double fakeclaim. Every argument for Tree being town was based solely on the two gambits. The first third of his posts are bashing/arguing for a Reinoe vote, and when I asked him to provide evidence of him scumhunting, he links me to
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post which is probably his strongest post (which is sad), and it's yet again him just saying Reinoe is scum.

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In post 363, T S O wrote:Attempting double day actions is foolhardy, but Town

In post 367, T S O wrote:
He tried one, it blew up in his face, he then tried another anyway. That's town.

In post 376, T S O wrote:Well, Majiffy, I'm arguing that after one going wrong, scum-him wouldn't be confident enough to do another, and your counter-argument appears to be "No." I don't feel the need to respond to "No."


I don't really have a read on Oka right now. Most of his content was against gameplay due to the stupid "bannable info" bullshit. It seems a bit like tunneling, but don't think I can really hold it against him. He did mention other people occasionally during that, so his switch to Tree wasn't out of the blue or I would have seen that as scummy.
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Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:31 pm

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In post 1283, OkaPoka wrote:Yeah I am not going to be on the aero wagon because I think he claimed pr.

This is horrible.
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Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:33 pm

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Elyse, what's your read on TSO?
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Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:35 pm

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In post 672, farside22 wrote:Texcat mentions a lot about tree in the post I quoted but vote for aero for an unknown reason.
I typically see that from newbscum. Where you mention a player you don't like but vote the other and the person you have more issue with is your scum buddy.


That didn't happen in the four posts you made. You also didn't quote that in your vote for him, you quoted something completely different. Also:
In post 1124, farside22 wrote:
In post 1123, texcat wrote:
In post 1113, farside22 wrote:
Can you explain why you asked this:

In post 627, texcat wrote:
In post 601, notscience wrote:So yeah

he's town

moving on


I get that Gameplay's theory on a mountainous game makes it look like he is vanilla town. And I've never played with him before, but isn't it worth considering that he's scum who made this whole thing up to look like vanilla town?


Did you have a scum read on gameplay I missed?

I certainly don't have a town read on Gameplay. And so I disagreed with NotScience's dismissal of him as town. Is this just another example of your hyperfocus on me?



I've talked about more then you, if you read the game at all.
How about your other scum reads, since all I saw was a follow elyse and not town read on gameplay.


Vote: tn

Hypocrisy much?
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Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:39 pm

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Why would I lynch a player who I believe is a pr, and do not have much scum read on him?
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Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:40 pm

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In post 1295, Aeronaut wrote:Elyse, what's your read on TSO?

Neutral. Not interested in lynching him today.
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Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:42 pm

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Oka
- This could be a phrasing thing, but do you find him scummy, just not "much of a scum read"?

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