NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)


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Post Post #2275 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:50 pm

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I haven't agreed with one thing shadow's posted, coincidentally.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #2276 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:51 pm

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Really? Can you explain what, if any problems you have with him? Because he's radiating town to me. Even though he always gives me gut scumreads for some reason, logically, to me, he seems really town.
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Post Post #2277 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:52 pm

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I genuinely don't agree with what he's saying, ever. It's not like it's one specific thing or something.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #2278 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:53 pm

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Oh. Okay. That's weird, then. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. o.o
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Post Post #2279 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:04 pm

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What is with Alina and the "wtf are people doing" stnace this game

holy fuck
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Post Post #2280 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:05 pm

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You people all confuse me greatly.
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Post Post #2281 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:08 pm

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Majiffy, my love


I think I have uncovered a great find
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Post Post #2282 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:09 pm

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VOTE: alina

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Post Post #2283 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:09 pm

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Why not just say it now? o.O

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Post Post #2284 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:10 pm

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She's not sure how to create a stance on someone as scum, so is trying to play the confusion tactic.
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Post Post #2285 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:11 pm

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That makes no sense. Who are you saying that I'm doing that in regards to?
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Post Post #2286 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:13 pm

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meh

not someone

not changing my vote though

I'll figure out how to explain it when I'm not also trying to make this stupid phone work
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Post Post #2287 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:14 pm

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So are you saying I'm doing it to everyone? Because if so...no. Why not just say it tho? ._.
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Post Post #2288 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:15 pm

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It's the way you're phrasing your posts sounds like you're feigning confusion
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Post Post #2289 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:16 pm

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And I'm really not going into it any more right now.
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Post Post #2290 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:17 pm

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...Okay. Evidently trying to sound more confident isn't working for me yet.

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Post Post #2291 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:19 pm

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Because I feel like shit and I have enough on my mind so it's even harder to articulate myself then normal and I can't fucking sleep and its 430 in the morning and i have to leave in 3 hours and just ugh
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Post Post #2292 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:20 pm

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Okie dokie then...
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Post Post #2293 (ISO) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:07 am

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So this stayed in my saved drafts for a few days and I didnt manage to post it. I feel like the deadline is coming close and I have to post this soon eventhough it is not finished.

Ok beginning with the analysis on the Aero wagon.

In post 1222, Wake1 wrote:Aeronaut (8): Shaddowez, Elyse, texcat, T S O, Psyche, notscience, Majiffy, Mirhawk


So from this Elyse is town. No need to discuss that. She is dumb but town. :wink: ( joking Elyse no need to rage).
Texcat is the other person I am willing to call town. He was the second on the wagon ( third counting Shadow) and I found his sheep to be rather genuine:

In post 470, texcat wrote:I have been reading along, but haven't understood half of what is going on. Tree made a couple of quickly disproven fake claims that I can't see the purpose for. And I can't see the motivation for it from either a scum or a town. Although I will say that it seemed to generate quite a bit of conversation.

The recent interactions between Aero and Elyse have convinced me to
VOTE: Aeronaut


Also this post is giving me (newb/noob) town vibes too:

In post 1389, texcat wrote:I've resisted giving any reads because a. it's difficult to read people you've never played with and b. it's day one and
c. I know all of these will change.


scum

Aeronaut flipflops, aggressive under pressure

omguscum

Aegor
farside And her recent change to TN is ?

people to keep an eye on

tree IC and dayvig
Elyse tunnel on Royal, vote on Aero, pretty quiet otherwise
gameplay wtf genius who knows the setup
Oka needs a re-read/iso
notscience townish, but votes tree with Majiffy deal
Majiffy townish, but is Tree the only scum in the game?

Mostly null on rest.


Only the bolded part bothers me. Tex mind explaining this for me?

Shadow can pass too. He hasn't been very useful especially his early game but his aggression then and now seems more like town trying to figure the game out. Also he has some good points in his posts. Overall leaning town.

Liking Majiffy too. His sudden switch on aero was scummy considering he pushed him tree for so long but after reading he previously questioned Aero and expressed suspicon of him. Also I still stand by my previous reasons I townread Majiffy for.

Ok I iso'ed Mirhawk. Eventhough his votes, unvotes seem scummy I read his earlier posts and everything and it gave me a better impression. His votes unlike other people's votes, don't come out of nowhere and he did scumhunt. I am not that sure in this read tho but still I am letting Mirhawk off today. (Sorry for the crappy explanation I isoed Mir a few days ago and I am writing whatever I liked and remember).

I am having hard time figuring the last 3 out - NS, Psyche, Tso. Yet I iso'ed Psyche and saw some things ( a lot ) I didn't like. I will try to elaborate on that later today.
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Post Post #2294 (ISO) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:11 am

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Not voting Alina, NS.
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Post Post #2295 (ISO) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:45 am

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In post 2263, OkaPoka wrote:VOTE: gameplay

only vote that makes sense and people are willing to join because tree wagon is going nowhere.

First of all you, Ns and shadow are the only ones who are willing to join. Secondly why does voting me make sense?
What a crap.
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Post Post #2296 (ISO) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:46 am

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Vote Count 1.13



texcat (5):
Aegor, reinoe, Mirhawk, tree, tn5421

OkaPoka (3):
Aeronaut, Alina, Elyse

Aeronaut (2):
Titus, texcat

Titus (2):
T S O, Majiffy

notscience (2):
Shaddowez, Psyche

Gameplay506 (2):
Josh_B, OkaPoka

RoyalApe (1):
PeregrineV

Psyche (1):
Gameplay506

Alina (1):
notscience


Not Voting (2):
RoyalApe, zMuffinMan


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~ Deadline expires 9/3/14, @8am central.

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Post Post #2297 (ISO) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:57 am

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In post 2266, Titus wrote:Aeronaut is confirmed scum fmpov due to shitty gs claim. Texcat is town bc Marquis.

In post 2270, Titus wrote:#2226 should read tree is town cuz Marquis.

Aegor asked specifically about Aeronaut and texcat. Your typo was not the "texcat" part, but the "bc Marquis" part. What is your read on texcat and why?
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Post Post #2298 (ISO) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:17 am

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In post 2273, Titus wrote:Nothing Aero. I make 3 - 4 bad tpos per game.

And yeah Aero's claim doesn't have a shred of evidence.

What other evidence could there be?
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Post Post #2299 (ISO) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:22 am

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In post 2264, Alina wrote: NY175 only had like 40 pages on day one..this...
this is just insane
.


The amount of posting is definitely throwing me for a loop as well. Totally different pace from the other games I am in.

My instinct is that scum is flooding the thread with useless arguments to try to confuse the town. But as I have been doing a horrible job at keeping up, I can't say that with any certainty. It is just as likely that all of the arguing is between townies and the scum has been able to sit on the sidelines, completely UTR.

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