NY 176: Completely Ridiculous Mafia (Game Over)

[goodmorning]

Fun fact: i bet the albatross flies alone because the other birds give it headaches

this is called projecting my feelings onto birds and also i ate too much pie, probably more pie than owls

Votecount 2.3

Toomai [L-5] - Aegor, reinoe

reinoe [L-5] - Izariael, Toomai

Aegor [L-6] - ika

T S O [L-6] - T S O

Not Voting [7] - MVP, scrambles, Cabd, Mirhawk, TheWayItEnds, AngryPidgeon, Cephrir

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2014-09-15 00:00:00)

reinoe is V/LA til Tuesday.

[scrambles]

Do you think the game is currently not in serious mode? If it is, what post do you think kicked off serious mode?

I'mmm back

Cabd... what kind of questions are these? They seem super fluffy and I don't understand how the answers could be relevant to Toomai's behavior... Is there something specific you're trying to gauge from them

This is the pinnacle of your contributions so far, which worries me somewhat. Seeeeeemmmmmmsssss a bit scummy overall when I look at your ISO.

Done with page 14, I think.
Don't like cabd. Don't like Mirhawk, don't like reinoe, do like ceph. That's it so far.

Oh and one question. I notice sometimes people write what looks like a percentage that goes 38-72 or something like that.
What does that mean?

[scrambles]

Im gunna just put this here for now pending a cabd wagon starting.

vote reined

[Cabd]

Don't bother, I'm never getting lynched this game.

Take that as you will.

Can you quote an example of the "weird percentages" thing? I'm not sure what exactly you're asking about.

[Mirhawk]

What possible reason could scum have for stopping his kill as well as killing him?

There's lots of reasons. So many in fact that we might as well save speculating on this point until we have some idea of the other PR's (scum and town) in the game.

I'm going to be rereading some bits before I form any more opinions, so that's all for tonight.

[scrambles]

scum

errr town, rather.

Why wouldn't you vig him if he flipped scum?

[scrambles]

Don't bother, I'm never getting lynched this game.

Take that as you will.

Can you quote an example of the "weird percentages" thing? I'm not sure what exactly you're asking about.

Did you already claim unlynchable at some point this game? Or is this the first time?
Also I think I saw it on page 13 or around there. If I find another one ill quote it.

[scrambles]

Because, unlike you, I feel there is barely anything I could give a scumread - a real scumread, not a 49-51 read - to. I have townreads, of course. I'm townreading TWIE, for example.

Who are your scumreads? Why?

Oh here it is page 12. But I saw a different percentage on another earlier page that was more lopsided. Am I just to assume these are random relative numbers?

[Cabd]

claim unlynchable

[scrambles]

People I am looking askance at: TSO, Bob, DJ, Aegor.

I don't quite get the Aegor one unless you think his whole "Im going to coast to lylo, deal with it trolls" is forced or something.

78/93 feel a little... silly? to me.

But it's not much.

Ah ok I did misdemeanor. This one isnt a percentage at all. Are these post numbers?

[Cabd]

Yeah cephrir's known to be lazy with post tags.

But seriously what the actual fuck was your reasoning for asking the first question of post 1506?

[scrambles]

Because I saw it as a deflection. I dont even have any evidence written down backing up my willingness to vote, and well it seemed a bit over the top of a defense.

[scrambles]

Was that supposed to be a subtle hint, because my grandma called and told me she read you claiming unlynchable in the newspaper before I even had a chance to read the post.

[Cabd]

Fair enough. It's not a deflection and that's all I intend to say on the matter.


P-edit: Go read the wiki page for "normal" and tell me what role isn't on that list.

[scrambles]

I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and say unlynchable. It's bed time for me though. I'll read one more page while I sip on this beer.

[Aegor]

Anyone who is even calling me scum HAS NO IDEA OF HOW I EVEN PLAY AS SCUM. Cephrir has never seen me as scum! How the fuck would he know?

I have so many issues with this whole thing it's just too much.

Hold on a minute...

When I submitted several examples of how there is no fucking way in hell that this is my scumgame, you did everything in your power to try and discredit those claims. Even though several players who had just played with and against me as scum confirmed it.

I will post tomorrow.

[T S O]

heres an idea:

TSO, if reione is scum who are his scum buddies? lets work from there.
if hes not scum what then?

Cephrir and MVP.
We lynch the above two.

Specifically, I'd like to hear what TSO has to say. I've also read page 60, and his posts have caught my eye.

On what?

The only defence he's offered to my accusation is "lol tso is bad". The only defence anyone else has offered is bullshit examples or noncommitment. Vote reinoe or explain why you're not doing it, and it better be damn good.

What do you mean "defense"? Are you referring to the Information Instead of Analysis that you offered way back when that relied on hyperbole and exaggeration?

I'm not going into a wall war with you when town enthusiasm was already on the brink.

But I realise that I'm not going to be able to air my views on reinoe until everyone's willing to listen, so I'm going to actually look at other people now.

And you never did this. Almost 800 posts later and you haven't done this. And yet when I point out that you haven't done this you say I'm "spamming the thread so that nobody can see your defense".

I'll admit Bob cheers me up and that's another reason to keep him but the quality of people voting him, like MVP and Cephrir, who both are in my top 3 scumreads, makes it pretty obvious this wagon is bullshit. Another reason could be the fact that Bob's explanation is legit.

MVP's jump was also atrocious.

Where's your Cephrir push?

Ceph's lynch preferences: DJ>Bob>MVP>reinoe

This specifically is why MVP and reinoe deserve death.

Why are you relying on your scumread's scumreads? Makes no fucking sense.

unvote
vote: dj

Hey look, now DJ is a scumread and Cephrir is not!

I still don't agree with Toomai or Bob lynches, I still think we should lynch the shit out of {reinoe, Cephrir, MVP}.

And now DJ is not a scumread but Cephrir is again!

But it doesn't really matter because TSO isn't pushing or pressuring his scumreads outside of myself.

So yeah, like, this is actually a pretty good post?

It's a fucking shitty post which I'll address EVEN THOUGH it lets reinoe start a wallwar.

Antitown fuck.

Because, unlike you, I feel there is barely anything I could give a scumread - a real scumread, not a 49-51 read - to. I have townreads, of course. I'm townreading TWIE, for example.

Who are your scumreads? Why?

Oh here it is page 12. But I saw a different percentage on another earlier page that was more lopsided. Am I just to assume these are random relative numbers?

Yes.

[T S O]

Reinoe you fucking coward you ran away when I selfvoted despite insinuating the whole game that I'm scum, yeah?

[Cephrir]

TSO.

You have skipped over me asking you why I'm scum like FIVE TIMES.

And the idea of me being "antitown" is patently stupid.

Please stop flailing. It's not becoming.

[T S O]

I'm not going into a wall war with you when town enthusiasm was already on the brink.

You'd love to get in a wall war and you are solely suffocating this game.

But I realise that I'm not going to be able to air my views on reinoe until everyone's willing to listen, so I'm going to actually look at other people now.

And you never did this. Almost 800 posts later and you haven't done this. And yet when I point out that you haven't done this you say I'm "spamming the thread so that nobody can see your defense".

Please stop trying to get me to explain an irrelevant townread on TWIE when I'm busy explaining a very important one on you, yeah?

I'll admit Bob cheers me up and that's another reason to keep him but the quality of people voting him, like MVP and Cephrir, who both are in my top 3 scumreads, makes it pretty obvious this wagon is bullshit. Another reason could be the fact that Bob's explanation is legit.

MVP's jump was also atrocious.

Where's your Cephrir push?

Where's the support for a Cephrir push?

Ceph's lynch preferences: DJ>Bob>MVP>reinoe

This specifically is why MVP and reinoe deserve death.

Why are you relying on your scumread's scumreads? Makes no fucking sense.

This is a piece of analysis pretty unique to me where I look at a scumread's scumreads, take the 3rd and 4th person, and presume that's where their scumbuddies are because it's easy for scum to put them there but just not push them.

Hint: Cephrir has not actually pushed either player.

unvote
vote: dj

Hey look, now DJ is a scumread and Cephrir is not!

Why the actual fuck would I vote Cephrir when there is no support?

Do you understand how the game works?

I still don't agree with Toomai or Bob lynches, I still think we should lynch the shit out of {reinoe, Cephrir, MVP}.

And now DJ is not a scumread but Cephrir is again!

Because those three were and are my preferred lynches, but they lack support...

This is so incredibly basic.

But it doesn't really matter because TSO isn't pushing or pressuring his scumreads outside of myself.

Apart from MVP, who I ran up to claim, and Cephrir, who I call scum on a regular basis ...so no, wrong as usual.

[T S O]

There's another wall I have been forced to post which will further. kill. this game.

[Cephrir]

Hint: Cephrir has not actually pushed either player.

Hint: Actually I did push MVP, harder than you have pushed me

[Cephrir]

Apart from MVP, who

I

the town ran up to claim, and Cephrir, who I call scum on a regular basis for no discernible reasons while ignoring his repeated requests for a solitary reason for this ...so

no, wrong as usual.

I am basically scumclaiming?

ftfy

[Cephrir]

TSO.

You have skipped over me asking you why I'm scum like FIVE TIMES.

Let's play "see how big a quoteblock I can make of this before you stop ignoring it".

[scrambles]

Might just be my new opinion but tso seems pretty town to me.