NY 176: Completely Ridiculous Mafia (Game Over)

[goodmorning]

Fun fact: mockingbirds are hilarious

Votecount 2.9

reinoe [L-5] - Izariael, Toomai

Toomai [L-5] - Aegor, reinoe

Aegor [L-6] - ika

T S O [L-6] - T S O

MVP [L-6] -scrambles

Not Voting [7] - MVP, Cabd, Mirhawk, TheWayItEnds, AngryPidgeon, Cephrir

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2014-09-15 00:00:00).

reinoe is sort of not about this life til Thursday.

[Izariael]

So, I don't agree entirely with T S O's scumpool (MVP, Cephrir, reinoe), but since I've gone back and looked at the voting I have to say that I see his comments from Day 1 being very plausible.

I'll admit Bob cheers me up and that's another reason to keep him but the quality of people voting him, like MVP and Cephrir, who both are in my top 3 scumreads, makes it pretty obvious this wagon is bullshit. Another reason could be the fact that Bob's explanation is legit.

MVP's jump was also atrocious.

Votecount 1.34

MVP

[L-2] - TheWayItEnds, Cabd,

Cephrir

, AngryPidgeon, Aegor,

reinoe

reinoe [L-3] -

Bicephalous Bob

, Toomai, T S O, Izariael,

Depraved Justice

Toomai [L-6] - Mirhawk, Aeronaut

T S O [L-7] - Ki-Gi

Mirhawk [L-7] -

MVP

Not Voting [0] -[/area]

This votecount was just after MVP had claimed town even-night gunsmith. Over the next few posts, the MVP wagon disbanded, and somehow instead of pressuring reinoe more, the pressure got diverted to elsewhere.

No new votes for reinoe during this time aside from DJ (who flipped town), so he was never pressured enough for a hardclaim.

T S O also commented that he didn't like the flourishing Bob wagon because his scumreads (MVP/Cephrir) were a part of it, as mentioned above

Votecount 1.38

reinoe [L-3] -

Bicephalous Bob

, Toomai, T S O, Izariael,

Depraved Justice

Toomai [L-4] - Mirhawk, Aeronaut,

reinoe

, Aegor

Bicephalous Bob

[L-5] - AngryPidgeon,

MVP

,

Cephrir

MVP

[L-6] - TheWayItEnds

T S O [L-7] - Ki-Gi

Not Voting [1] - Cabd

[/color]

This is the post that I find most interesting. of the 7 people on the MVP wagon, only one (DJ - conf. town) moved to reinoe's wagon. Another, TWIE, stayed voted for MVP. reinoe wouldn't vote for himself. The other 4 people are the ones that I find interesting from this though.

I would like to hear from them to know why they didn't feel like pressuring reinoe: AP, Aegor, Cabd and Cephrir

Votecount 1.39

Bicephalous Bob

[L-2] - AngryPidgeon,

MVP

, Toomai, Cabd,

Depraved Justice

,

reinoe

Toomai [L-4] - Mirhawk, Aeronaut, Aegor,

Bicephalous Bob

Depraved Justice

[L-6] -

Cephrir

, T S O

T S O [L-7] - Ki-Gi

MVP [L-7] - TheWayItEnds

reinoe [L-7] - Izariael

Not Voting [0] -

[/color]

In a span of about 100 posts we went from the Bob wagon starting to reaching L-2. I don't think it's coincidence that many of the same names are on this wagon, and the fact that it completely derailed the reinoe wagon is something I find equally alarming.

Votecount 1.44

Bicephalous Bob

[LYNCH] - AngryPidgeon,

MVP

, Toomai, Cabd,

reinoe

,

Cephrir

,

Depraved Justice

, ika

Toomai [L-5] - Mirhawk, Aeronaut, Aegor

MVP [L-6] - TheWayItEnds,

Bicephalous Bob

reinoe [L-7] - Izariael

Depraved Justice

[L-7] - T S O

Not Voting [0] -

MVP's wagon at L-1: TheWayItEnds,

Cabd

,

Cephrir

,

AngryPidgeon

, Aegor,

reinoe

,

Depraved Justice

Bob's wagon at lynch:

AngryPidgeon

, MVP, Toomai,

Cabd

,

reinoe

,

Cephrir

,

Depraved Justice

, ika
players on both:

AngryPidgeon, Cabd, reinoe, Cephrir,

Depraved Justice

Based on what I've seen here, I think I'll be starting ISOs of these 4 people: AP; Aegor; Cabd; Cephrir. Cabd's already been high on my scum list, and this doesn't really help any, but I currently have Cephrir and AP as leaning town and Aegor as null, so I might re-evaluate those. reinoe's scummy as fuck and I don't need another re-read of his ISO to tell me that again.

[Izariael]

Based on what I've seen here, I think I'll be starting ISOs of these 4 people: AP; Aegor; Cabd; Cephrir.

Add Toomai to that. I mentioned earlier that I wanted to re-read him, and his vote for Bob here gives me further reason to do so.

[T S O]

Izzy, you remind me of myself when I'm actually motivated and willing to talk to people/work. Well played.

[Cephrir]

I would like to hear from them to know why they didn't feel like pressuring reinoe: AP, Aegor, Cabd and Cephrir

Well, because I had Bob as scummier than reinoe.

You can see a little before this I make a post along the lines of "I'm deciding whether to vote Bob or push a stronger suspect". At the time, said stronger suspects were MVP and DJ. Besides, L-3 was plenty of pressure on reinoe. Anyway, I then proceeded to jump on DJ, see them claim vig, and get back off again while trying to get them to shoot reinoe.

Given how shitty those reads now look, it's pretty plain why I'm trying to reevaluate today.

[ika]

VOTE: cepher

can we lynch this plz? we can deal with rione later

that last post reeks of scum

[Cabd]

Hey ap you online? i've got talk i wanna do vaguely enough that only we get bit using pokegym refs because technically public data but would take forever to get the refs. It's something p. important.

[Mirhawk]

I mostly like this post.

I agree. I still don't like Toomai, but this is objectively the best post he's made all game.

The biggest reservation I have about TSO is that throwing a bitchfit is basically the thing I was looking for, because it pretty much happened in FEA.

I don't know if this is alignment indicative. I've seen TSO do similar things as town.

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Someone (AP?) mentioned that there was probably a mafia doctor. Probably not the case. That combined with the vig and the even modifier would make MVP functionally useless. Unless MVP was scum, but if that was the case there wouldn't be any reason to suspect a mafia doctor.

Very much don't like Izy's 1529, it smells faintly of chainsaws. I do however like 1651 as it contains analysis of possible counterwagons, which I keep intending to go back and take a look at.

I was pretty ambivalent with regards to Aeronaught, Ika seems way more town then his predecessor though.

[Cabd]

I think I know why AP thinks there is a mafia doctor and his premise is flawed for good reason.

[Izariael]

also on the "hes anti-town" i am also known as anti-town so whats the diffrence between me and him in terms of anti-town?

I'm not sure about the difference between you from that perspective yet since you just joined recently, but I think a pretty key difference is that reinoe was in DJ's vig pool targets last night and you weren't. And our vig is now dead.

[Izariael]

Besides, L-3 was plenty of pressure on reinoe.

Was it really though? We never did get a claim out of him as we did with MVP at L-1. The posts he made when his wagon was at L-3 were more of the same useless spam, and 4 votes (Bob, Toomai, DJ, Bob) so I don't think he was acting in a manner that suggests he was really feeling any pressure.

[Izariael]

Hey ap you online? i've got talk i wanna do vaguely enough that only we get bit using pokegym refs because technically public data but would take forever to get the refs. It's something p. important.

"Hey guys, this game doesn't have mafia daytalk so we have to talk here cryptically"

I fail to see a town-motivated reason why you can't just speak in a manner that everyone can understand.

[Cephrir]

ika irritates me.

I knew that already, though.

[ika]

ika irritates me.

I knew that already, though.

go on. what irritates you?

i got a legit question: what would everyone do if i just inadvertly claimed for no reason? cus im half tempted to to it jsut to stir the pot

[scrambles]

if you want to stir the pot, vote for the confirmable townie mvp

[Cephrir]

You do.

Like, as a person.

I would prefer not playing with you.

[ika]

You do.

Like, as a person.

I would prefer not playing with you.

is it b/c i dont correct my grammar? your going to have to tolerate me for this game unless if scums nk me

[AngryPidgeon]

Hey ap you online? i've got talk i wanna do vaguely enough that only we get bit using pokegym refs because technically public data but would take forever to get the refs. It's something p. important.

Here kind of.

[Cephrir]

Nope, not really!

(Hint: we've played on irc)

[AngryPidgeon]

I think I know why AP thinks there is a mafia doctor and his premise is flawed for good reason.

Ok well tell me then?

Mr. Smith?

[ika]

Nope, not really!

(Hint: we've played on irc)

if you are talking to me i can see why you would hate me.

but some things: irc is not the same for me as FMs.

[Cabd]

No, more like because I think you're gonna have a posting restriction that you only talk in colors, but i'm telling you that your grey mirror isn't red.

[Cabd]

Hey ap you online? i've got talk i wanna do vaguely enough that only we get bit using pokegym refs because technically public data but would take forever to get the refs. It's something p. important.

Hi my name is Iz and I like forcing cabd to talk about potential setup speculation in such a way that gives scum a roadmap on who knows what.

[AngryPidgeon]

No, more like because I think you're gonna have a posting restriction that you only talk in colors, but i'm telling you that your grey mirror isn't red.

Ok well if we are on the same page, and I think we are, that would mean MVP basically has to be scum? Or mafia is stacked this game, but RB would basically be confirmed so eh.

[Cabd]

I'm thinking we've got closer to Pika brothers scum counts, not pokegym style setup.