In post 1395, GreyICE wrote:SK - TSM, Royal Club, TPA. Are they the equal of any of these teams? I can't really say they are. They're just flat the weakest team in their group.
SK has this problem where they're like C9 with an even weaker set of players. I don't know how SK does anything when none of their players are going to be strong enough to individually make anything happen, and will likely cede substantially amounts of ground (especially in the solo lanes).
In post 1398, Venmar wrote:I was actually thinking of saying Quas, since he does have some of the best stats in NA. However I think Quas is more of a teamplayer than anything, than a carry player.
Yes, he does the exact thing you want a top to do in the vast majority of metas.
Very few teams use top as an offensive pivot to completely take control of a game. C9 and any team with Zion are the only teams I can think of that have their playmaking on the top-side of the map (if Zion could get on a C9-level team, it would be really scary)
the korean superstars looked mediocre at best both getting outplayed by fucking INNOX and pobelter.
you could tell their communication was shit as they've been together only a few weeks. oh and sheep is gone.
but hey they were happy to be there.
In all fairness to Pobelter, the guy is an incredibly talented player. Innox could be if he practiced harder and did what Westrice did (which is try to be Dyrus but suck at it)
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In post 1387, xRECKONERx wrote:Yes, so you've listed two people out of the 8 teams in the LCS. Seraph isn't actually that good IMO. Balls & Ackerman are the only two I'd consider great top laners in NA, and the rest are all very lackluster.
I'm gonna be kind of mean here.
The fact that you didn't say Quas substantially weakens your authority.
Quas was great the couple of Nidalee games I saw him but most games I saw him he was playing Lulu and it was not pretty. Not to mention like I said earlier the meta of top laners roaming with junglers kinda skews the ability to tell how they do in lane
In post 1434, xRECKONERx wrote:If TSM makes it out of groups I will force myself to projectile vomit
:/, they have a chance, you just have to believe. (They would have to beat TPA and/or Samsung White though, which I myself think would be super hard to do.)
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In post 1434, xRECKONERx wrote:If TSM makes it out of groups I will force myself to projectile vomit
:/, they have a chance, you just have to believe. (They would have to beat TPA and/or Samsung White though, which I myself think would be super hard to do.)
They can beat TPA. Not so sure about White, though. It'd really have to be a repeat of S3 for them to beat White.
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In post 1423, BROseidon wrote:Ackerman was at worlds last year, and got second.
Balls is very clearly a world-class top
Zionspartan is not much weaker than Balls
Seraph is hard to judge b/c CLG doesn't allow him to do anything.
Quas is
the best top in NA by a non-negligible margin
Innox and Westrice are the only tops who are noticeably weak. The top players in NA right now are surprisingly potent, and outskill non-Korea regions for the most part (Only Eu tops that I put on par with the majority of NA ones are Soaz, Wickd, and Kev1n).
I would agree to this list, except I don't actually believe Zionspartan is actually as good as you think. He excels in split push comps, where he crushes teams as Jax, Nasus, or Nidalee since he knows how to do it and his teams knows hot to set it up, but he seems pretty mediocre most of the times in comps where he cannot split push.
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List is vastly similar to Bro's, except I think TPA is more likely to leave than SHRC, and I cannot decide between C9 and NJWS in the last group I think.
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