NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)

[notscience]

god wy are you two both falling so hard for this red herring bullshit

holy fuck

[reinoe]

Again, the hypothetical isn't based in fact. It's speculating. The best fakeclaims for scum tend to be the closest to reality.

My vote isn't going there. If you want me to vote with you, pick someone other than the doctor and make a case.

Or you could vote Psyche.

Look at it this way...

For some reason A doc claim has avoided FOUR SHOTS from scum. Either both scum teams are terrible terrible shots, or there's something not 100% legitimate about the doc claim.

[Titus]

Again, the hypothetical isn't based in fact. It's speculating. The best fakeclaims for scum tend to be the closest to reality.

My vote isn't going there. If you want me to vote with you, pick someone other than the doctor and make a case.

Or you could vote Psyche.

Look at it this way...

For some reason A doc claim has avoided FOUR SHOTS from scum. Either both scum teams are terrible terrible shots, or there's something not 100% legitimate about the doc claim.

Scum left me alive too. You'd think red scum would really want to shoot me but no one even shot at my bulletproof vest (as evidenced by two kills).

[Titus]

god wy are you two both falling so hard for this red herring bullshit

holy fuck

Let's suppose you are right... Oka isn't the last scum on his team. There are other scum. Find them.

I don't believe it.

[notscience]

why would I do that when I could just lynch the scum now and call it done

[Titus]

why would I do that when I could just lynch the scum now and call it done

Because I don't believe the doctor is scum. Take the route of least resistance and build your credibility at the same time.

[Marquis]

I may be crazy but I am 100% with Titus on this.

Lynch someone else. Both Titus and Oka not getting shot can easily be explained by scum thinking other scum would shoot one of the two.

[notscience]

Why do I care about my credibility again

[Mirhawk]

21 to 6

Why the fuck would scum kill Texcat? That makes zero sense.

On a side note, Reinoe is innocent.

That was the SK kill. They were probably trying to hit scum.

Also, there's another neighborhood. Me, Aegor, Oka, and Mir.

Yeah this neighborhood is a thing.

Mir

, don't hate me.

Oka starts posting in thread asking if he should do a gambit and rampaging about gameplay. He suggests gambiting as a cop to take a bullet, but is unsure he wants Aegor to have heard that (at that point Aegor had been silent in the QT). He then says that he's going to claim in the QT, but not in the main thread, that he's not a cop, and asks if any of us are investigative roles. He then suggests he'll claim as a PGO to avoid a NK. He finally claims doc in the thread, and when asked about it in the QT says he's not confirming. Later he starts asking about who he should protect, and Mir suggests the following:

1) Josh B
2) A strong player

Sound familiar? Yeah, not buying Oka as town.

VOTE: Oka

That actually makes a hell of a lot of sense from a doctor's perspective. A doctor needs to know who to heal. So he wants a VT to say I'm a cop. Oka would heal them. He claims PGO and then scum won't want to kill the doctor.

Horribly executed because that implies he trusts his entire hood. Bad Bad Bad assumption.

I don't think this was the plan. I was under the impression that Oka was thinking of claiming cop himself.

Mirhawk, I'm really needing you to show up and confirm the stuff Shaddowez is saying.

Shadow's paraphrasing, but all the important bits are there.

[Marquis]

reinoe is saying there's two separate scumteams

mirhawk is saying there's one scumteam and a sk

both are speaking as if they know it to be a fact

so what's up u guys

[tn5421]

Ready to crucify some scum. You?

[Mirhawk]

Each night one person was stabbed and one person was shot.

Stabbings are pretty much the SK's calling card.

Besides the kills make more sense if you assume the stabbings are the SK looking for scum.

Oka's town. Why would he protect Josh night one if he was a scum doc. There's a greater advantage to be had in protecting a teammate.

[gameplay506]

I have one question for Titus. Titus why aren't you investigating your main suspects? N1 you investigated me instead of Aero, who you pushed all day. N2 you investigated reinoe instead of Psyche ( who you wanted to lynch mainly). Now there is something seriously wrong with your night actions.

Secondly I think we shoul look into the SK's kills. Texcat today proves that the SK is someone who suspected tex. The first person who comes to mind isarquis right now. But I have to read some more on that.

Thirdly I see shadow as town. His reactions and posts vs oka are just super town. On the other side oka is odd. Same thing with titus - his night actions are really messed up.

Right now I am suspcious of Titus. The way she sounded sure on Aero scum and the odd night actions are making me feel like something is off there. In the lynch list are also Pere, Payche, Mir and maybe oka.

[gameplay506]

Ns looks town too.

[gameplay506]

My neighborhood is me and my slaves Tn and Royal. Its my neighborhood!

Having a strong townread on Royal. Also what happened with the people deadset on Royal yesterday? Why no votes on him today?
Not sure about tn

[gameplay506]

But Psyche is scum tho. I will try to figure out some other today.

VOTE: Psyche

[reinoe]

Each night one person was stabbed and one person was shot.

This. I've been thinking it's two scum teams but with consecutive nights of stabbings and shootings it's likely SK+MAFIA.

I don't like Psyche's sudden drop in activity. PV has also become scarce.

Nope. Your reads are shit. There is a reason why I copped you.

I think this is a bit ironic since there's a lot of overlap in our reads.

[reinoe]

I don't like Psyche's sudden drop in activity. PV has also become scarce.

EBWOP:

So has majiff and zMuff. They haven't posted at all this DP.

[RoyalApe]

btw, did RoyalApe town in the fuck up in the neighborhood?

Yes, i finally found it and then D2 ended in a flash.

[OkaPoka]

Aeronaut is the greatest player in the world.

[Titus]

Gameplay, I have claimed bulletproof. Scum apparently do not care to agree to kill me.

As for the cop thing, there are two schools of thought. One is check your scumreads and confirm you are on the right track. The other is to check null or null lean scumreads to see if scum are flying under the radar. It also prevents scum from guessing who you are going to check.

You should never check your cc as a cop unless you are pretty sure only one scum is left.

[Titus]

Why do I care about my credibility again

Credibility factors in getting votes.

[PeregrineV]

On page 126 right now.

Probably already discussed, but 1 mafia team and 1 SK is the setup.

[gameplay506]

Wait who cces cop?

[Titus]

Aeronaut did. Well his claim was first but he was my counter. No one checks known scum.