Through the Looking-Glass [Game Over]

[Katsuki]

I REALLY wanted to GO FOR GOLD too.

Explain this statement.

It's quite self-explanatory.

I've already demonstrated how dumb I am so just explain it for me.

I would've sent Nacho to his grave if I was >60% sure he was scum. Alas.

[SleepyKrew]

How did you plan on figuring out his alignment

[DeasVail]

I am actually catching up now. Sorry.

[zMuffinMan]

How did you plan on figuring out his alignment

i can answer that

tea leaves

[Katsuki]

muffins knows everything

[SleepyKrew]

Answer the question

[DeasVail]

DV, you're a really cool guy.

You're very kind.

VOTE: Nachomamma8 due to Kat's claim. If Nacho is town, we can lynch Kat tomorrow.

This is a terrible post.

RedCoyote became a townread for me from that post.

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All caught up! Reads and other delicious things coming soon!

[DeasVail]

Katsuki
SleepyKrew
Nachomamma8
notscience
Cho
Bins
RedCoyote

The above are all at least leaning town in my mind. I wouldn't be surprised if there were scum among this group of players, but I am not interested in lynching any of them for now. Froot Loop gets an honorable mention for almost making the cut, but something holds me back.

Muffin is entertaining and could be town, but I don't actually see anything town from him and I question Katsuki's seemingly confident townread there.
Empking's vote on Nacho is something I'm having trouble with. Part of me thinks that the timing is unlikely from scum, but the point raised by Nacho + Cho is a decent one.

The players I would be interested in lynching are:

Konowa
Brian Skies
TiphaineDeath

TiphaineDeath is probably less of a priority for me because he displays emotion and unless used manipulatively in order to avoid a lynch I tend to find it likely from town. However, he is still a scumread just because it feels over-the-top and faked, in addition to his attitude to the Nacho wagon.

Brian Skies is also someone that I haven't been able to really understand yet, but his posts feel like scum to me despite not having a real picture of what he would be thinking as scum.

That said, my catch-up has only strengthened my desire to lynch Konowa. And once again, this shall be explained blue-toga-man-style.

Because guess what? Those hips still be swayin', that blue flag of ultimate town-ness still be wavin'. Over the last two days, there have been townies clawing at each other around him, chewing on each other's flesh, faking daycop guilties! Konowa's response to this is to ever so softly repeat at 30-minute intervals, 'I don't like what's happening here', while continuing to sway those born-for-swaying hips and not letting a single townie forget just how town this blue toga guy is!

He thought Katsuki's daycop was fake, he makes a big deal out of passively complaining about town's direction in 679, but he doesn't actually do anything to change it. You see very little effort to either develop his Cho and TD reads (430 doesn't count because it's a ridiculous incrimination of Cho and is discouraging TD scumreads, who I think could be scum), or to convince others of his reads when he thinks everyone else is making poor choices. My impression is that Konowa is someone pretending to care about what happens but clearly not actually caring about what happens. So, I think he is scum. I would quite like it if we lynched him.

[Froot Loop]

VOTE: Nachomamma8 due to Kat's claim. If Nacho is town, we can lynch Kat tomorrow.

This is a terrible post.

RedCoyote became a townread for me from that post.

I think that's solid reasoning - if one of them (especially nacho) had turned out to be town, the other one would be in trouble. It's just Red's justification for voting now is a bit flimsy:

I don't know why I was expecting more from this game. In any case, I'm effectively an IC, so I'm just going to wing it for now until we thin the herd. I hate to lose Nacho, but

if Nacho is scum he needs to go sooner rather than later so that I am not wiled by his charms.

If Nacho is town, then we get to lynch Kat which is almost always a positive thing. It's a win-win in my book.

(my underline)

If I could like post 789, I would.

i don't think it matters seeing as he claimed alignment-cop and it's likely there is a variant of an alignment-cop in this game and unless someone else wants to claim it, we can just let it sort itself out

though i'm pretty sure regardless of nacho's alignment, he knows you're not an alignment-cop

Great, so this gambit can have revealed two possible town cops.

let's go with

Vote: Froot Loop

for now

I REALLY wanted to GO FOR GOLD too. I swear if Nacho is scum fakeclaiming I'll never live this down.

Unvote, Vote: Front Loop

But why??

[zMuffinMan]

reading your posts makes me feel empty inside

[DeasVail]

I think that's solid reasoning - if one of them (especially nacho) had turned out to be town, the other one would be in trouble. It's just Red's justification for voting now is a bit flimsy:

My read is in some ways making the assumption that Nacho is town. If Nacho is scum then I do still think RedCoyote's probably town, but I haven't thought it through properly. However, while I believe scum following Katsuki's daycop guilty on Nacho would pretend to be convinced of Nacho's guilt and not mention the need to lynch Katsuki until tomorrow, RedCoyote without shame states the need to lynch Katsuki with a Nacho townflip.

[Froot Loop]

Yeah, that's true. Nacho mentioned it as well, like "if you lynch me, know that you'll be lynching katsuki tomorrow."

reading your posts makes me feel empty inside

Sorry about that. Why?

[zMuffinMan]

everything you write looks fake

[DeasVail]

reading your posts makes me feel empty inside

I get the same feeling, but I liked her at first. It's strange.

[Froot Loop]

Ok, that's a bit of a downer. Is there something you want to talk about so I can explain it or clarify?

[DeasVail]

I can't think of anything in particular.

[zMuffinMan]

Ok, that's a bit of a downer. Is there something you want to talk about so I can explain it or clarify?

OK. let's pretend that you've actually given at least one contribution to this game in terms of reads, stances, opinions on anything

why don't you talk about your reads. all of them. and while you're at it, talk about your cho vote and how that has or hasn't developed since you originally voted her for... magical reasons or something

[SleepyKrew]

Fruit Luip, are you always like this when you get scumread/voted?

[zMuffinMan]

The Cho thing is about him giving two explanations for the same action in thread. Especially considering the first explanation was that the mistake was accidental.

i think this is your reasoning for voting cho?

[Empking]

Unvote
Vote: Fruit

[zMuffinMan]

also i've only played one game with froot loop so i'm nowhere near certain if this means anything, but this is totally different from ffery's game in terms of approach to the game, behaviour, etc

(even before the day cop stuff, the play was entirely different)

[SleepyKrew]

What's your read on Katsuki, Empking?

[SleepyKrew]

also i've only played one game with froot loop so i'm nowhere near certain if this means anything, but this is totally different from ffery's game in terms of approach to the game, behaviour, etc

(even before the day cop stuff, the play was entirely different)

Would she get jumpy at the slightest expressed suspicion?

[Froot Loop]

Fruit Luip, are you always like this when you get scumread/voted?

Well, there's normally something concrete to talk about so that's my fallback?

Yeah, that's why I voted for Cho and I've clarified and repeated it. I'm pretty much waiting for a response but that's ok.

Here's a list:

Questionable: katsuki, zMuffinMan, Cho, bins
Town-Lean: konowa, sleey krew, TiphaineDeath
Nothing: desperado, Brian, DeasVail, Empking, natirasha
Don't Know: nacho, notscience, redcoyote

This is based on play. Nacho is difficult because he came into the game under a guilty read or what he, presumably, didn't know would turn out to be a fake guilty read (which I think it has.) I feel like notscience's play was strange in the bins/TiphaineDeath thing.

[zMuffinMan]

also i've only played one game with froot loop so i'm nowhere near certain if this means anything, but this is totally different from ffery's game in terms of approach to the game, behaviour, etc

(even before the day cop stuff, the play was entirely different)

Would she get jumpy at the slightest expressed suspicion?

i dunno, it's not a long ISO

i don't remember her coming under much suspicion until later in the game

i guess #956 from that game is the first response to her being voted because prior to that (which was like... D3? i don't remember, i was dead by then) she hadn't been voted all game