NY 176: Completely Ridiculous Mafia (Game Over)

[scrambles]

Im just as curious about cabd claim as well. I asked half a dozen times for clarification already because a lot of his testimony led to my suspicion that mvp waslying.
Im just going to have to assume though, due to your persistence in this logic, that you figure a scum team of mir cabd myself and one other?
Is that fair to say?

[ika]

how about we start with your full claim?

[goodmorning]

seagulls are loud annoying whingey cowards

Votecount 3.16

Toomai [L-2] - Aegor, Mirhawk, Cabd, Cephrir

Mirhawk [L-4] - TheWayItEnds, Izariael

Not Voting [6] - T S O, AngryPidgeon, ika, scrambles, Toomai

With 11 alive, it takes

6

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2014-09-18 20:00:00).

[scrambles]

Because it'll make such a difference.
full cop.
Can we move on now?

[Izariael]

I mean, that is some hardcore pretending. Lemme venture a guess, im scum fakeclaiming and trying to put together a series of mislynches out of the possibilities, and ive purposely left you out izzy because im..hmmmm... trying to gain your vote approval? Or maybe, im scum who doesn't actually think you're scum, so I omitted you because I cant keep my extremely complicated undercountered fakeclaim story straight?

Weren't you just voting for me a few pages ago because of my "WIFOM sarcastic" comments? Look who's calling the kettle black... Amazing how easy it is to rely on sarcasm when the claims against you seem preposterous from your vantage point? OBVSCUM.

How have I "created evidence out of thin air"? I've said I don't believe your claim, and why it

feels

disingenuous, but I don't think I've conjured up anything that you've said or done that hasn't actually happened. The outcome of my interpretations may be incorrect, but that does not mean I've made up false information regarding your actions/statements. It just means I've misjudged your intent. I've given you plenty of time and opportunity to help me understand and see truth in your claim, but instead of doing so you've just been saying I'm scummy for not believing your claim. It's an uncontested claim, but that doesn't mean much to me in a closed set-up. How am I supposed to know if your role is in the game to begin with? I have to rely on what I see within the scope of the game, and right now what I see doesn't add up the way you say it should. (now would be a cool time to post a proper claim, as ika suggested)

Im just going to have to assume though, due to your persistence in this logic, that you figure a scum team of mir cabd myself and one other?
Is that fair to say?

It's fair enough to say. Cabd is on any scum team I would propose. I'm not sold on you as scum, and haven't been, but by PoE you're up there in my top suspects, and your claim hasn't pushed that in the town direction at all yet.

I'm less sold on Mirhawk as scum, but I still see it being possible. Still think scum-Mirhawk is more likely than scum-Toomai and will not be voting Toomai as a result. It kind of looks like the Toomai lynch might go through anyways. Either way, I won't be joining the Toomai wagon, for better or for worse.

Unknown on a fourth, if there is one. I could see myself throwing ika into any scumteam because he's just suspicious as fuck; the only reason I haven't done so yet is because of reinoe flip. If I mislynch two anti-town players in a row... then... yeah. Every time I don't vote ika, I kick myself a little. It hurts to not vote for him.

UNVOTE: Mirhawk; VOTE: Cabd
Might as well try. He's dodged under everyone's radar for reasons unknown to me and is skating by on a soft-claim. He's withheld and obscured information, and when asked to reveal information he had stated intent to share, he remained tight-lipped about it. He's directed a lot of the action this game yet isn't being scrutinized, and he's basically all but setting up to chain-lynch as of 2349

p-edit: Yep. We can move on now. Thanks. Got about shit-ton of questions about Aeronaut not investigating on N1, but those will remain forever unanswered...

[TheWayItEnds]

Uhhh.

Yeah so my "Thats too many fucking PRs" alarm is ringing.

And Cabd just willing to accept a cop claim after softing an investigative is bullshit too.

[Izariael]

Uhhh.

Yeah so my "Thats too many fucking PRs" alarm is ringing.

And Cabd just willing to accept a cop claim after softing an investigative is bullshit too.

Pretty much this.

[TheWayItEnds]

Then I dunno. Get off my nuts?
Ive been reading you town and all you do is question that basis time and time again despite that ive given reasoning. Maybe you're right and I should be scum reading you.

Vanity wagon?
Izzy just gave me some straight up wifom that he's making associative tells with his partner Toomai in sarcasm. In my experience that usually means that toomai is the town and izzy is the scum.

So reading me as town is fine. Because I'm pretty fucking town.

But reading me as town and then consistently listing off characteristics of my play as things that you think are scumtells and then ignoring me doing them feels like you're buddying the shit out of me.

Which I found quite suspicious.

[TheWayItEnds]

Uhhh.

Yeah so my "Thats too many fucking PRs" alarm is ringing.

And Cabd just willing to accept a cop claim after softing an investigative is bullshit too.

Pretty much this.

You cant quote my post and say pretty much this after you just p-edited me out with a much better post.

[Izariael]

Not sure why I can't, but okay. I agreed with the sentiment. I still do.

[TheWayItEnds]

Because your post was better.

Like people are going to read your good post.

And then read my shitty post.

And then you draw more attention to my shitty post.

Its quite rude.

[TheWayItEnds]

Woah. holy shit. Full cop? If there is a full cop claim in the game then I am lynching either that or Cabd with haste.

Stop being an idiot, read my recent psots, and add in the power role i had when i fakeclaimed hider that one time, and think about it.

Also if you're wondering...

This isnt good enough.

[Cabd]

softing an investigative

Say what the what now?

I absolutely am not softing that.


Also fuck you, i'm not claiming today with the cop claim on the board.

[Izariael]

softing an investigative

Say what the what now?

I absolutely am not softing that.


Also fuck you, i'm not claiming today with the cop claim on the board.

Why not? I feel like at least one of you two is lying, possibly both. I don't see how it would hurt your status right now to hardclaim. Walk me through your head.

[TheWayItEnds]

No.

I know what hes claiming.

Its the claim that I called a scum claim earlier.

I thought he changed it.

[TheWayItEnds]

I still think its a scum claim though.

[Izariael]

Because your post was better.

Like people are going to read your good post.

And then read my shitty post.

And then you draw more attention to my shitty post.

Its quite rude.

Oh.

Sorry. My bad?

[TheWayItEnds]

But also it would be worth it to wait a day to lynch him for it.

Because reasons.

[TheWayItEnds]

Also he is unfortunately not going to be hardclaiming today.

[Aegor]

I want Cabd's claim.

I also want to lynch Toomai. Even under extreme pressure, the best he can come up with is a summary of claims. Not one of his posts feels genuine, and none is incisive.

LYNCH


scrambles' claim will require further analysis on my part, but I see no reason to lynch a claimed cop unless we collectively agree that there are no scummier candidates. At the moment, there are.

[TheWayItEnds]

Actually.

Do you have a restriction Cabd?

Are you active tonight?

[TheWayItEnds]

Those are separate questions.

The first is more important to me than the second.

[Izariael]

We are rapidly approaching LyLo... as early as tomorrow with 4 scum... how long are we giving semi-/soft-/hard-claimed PRs a free skate-through?

[TheWayItEnds]

Oh.

Sorry. My bad?

I was (mostly) joking.

I just thought it was funny that you could type up 5 paragraphs of info with quotes and links and shit, and then quote my three second/ three line post that came after and said the same thing, and be like yeah this.

[TheWayItEnds]

We are rapidly approaching LyLo... as early as tomorrow with 4 scum... how long are we giving semi-/soft-/hard-claimed PRs a free skate-through?

Depends on his answers to my questions.