Open 570: Making Friends and Enemies (Mafia Wins!)

[Peabody]

This game.

Quote war central. It makes it hard to read. xD

[Peabody]

Zeb, why does mala fall under 'scum' and not under 'lurk'?

[Peabody]

I mean according to your explanation, it seems you count her as scum due to lurking? Or is it low content per post ratio?

[Peabody]

Actually, nevermind. I answered my own question.

I'm going to have to restrain myself for quintuple posting. Sorry.

[Zebulin]

I mean according to your explanation, it seems you count her as scum due to lurking? Or is it low content per post ratio?

[line]Low content per post ratio.[/line] Oh, you said you awnsered your

@Shinobi: Maybe you could explain that sentence.
@Zeb: Why ISOs?

P-Edit: And why cop out on Josh and Peabody? They've posted more than the lurkers have.

JoshB

:

Well, he's scumreading me. I don't like his logic on me, which I am answering later in this post, but that doesn't mean he's scum. 21 posts is a good amount considering he replaced in.

Peabody

:

Doesn't like me either. I strongly disagree with post 259, considering that I

actually did explain me read

. Does have a lot of content per post, but the logic is totally off.

Look, Zeb. Maybe I'm not understanding WHY you are reading them why you're reading them. You coded MS as -red-. But your paragraph on him is just explaining what he did. What in that paragraph EQUALS scum alignment, and what is just summary? Can you please, for the sake of me understanding you, do this?

Additionally, you have me labeled as scum, but you give no clear indication as to why. Is it because I called you scummy? Or why?

Your logic is totally off. You claimed in post 259 I didn't come up with a conclusion, when in reality I point out a ton of scummy, not confusing things (votehopping, demanding sheep, on-off pressuring, and the VT/Mason gambit (these things are self-explanitory is scummyness imo)), and draw a conclusion from it; Metal Sonic is scum. The bad logic is scummy to me.

[Josh_B]

Zebulin, How do you feel about being on the same wagon as Peabody? Does that change your reads at all?

What do you mean by this?

I'm voting BBT at the moment.

-Well this sucks. I guess I'll have to ask some different questions.

QFT. Mod can you fix this? After I iso'd peabody, it doesn't look like he ever voted for MS. Plus, Peabody mentioned his vote was wrong earlier

[Josh_B]

Pink is really hard to read.

anyways BBT did you bring up some points about GM being scum?

[Metal Sonic]

Mr Peabody, can you get a more high res avatar pretty please?

[beastcharizard]

EspressoDan and Alpha Sapphire didn't respond to the prod so they are being replaced.

[Peabody]

"votehopping" - Not alignment indicative. Not scummy unless it's opportunistic voting.
"demanding sheep" - Not alignment indicative.
"on-off pressuring" - What do you mean by this?
"and the VT/Mason gambit" - As I said, I can see this from either alignment, although this is the most suspicious thing he's done.

I can't read your mind. In my mind, I read a bunch of things that were just summaries and not alignment indicative. How would I have known these are the things you think indicate scum unless you said it?

Using the word "interesting" doesn't mean one alignment or another.

Welcome to my mind. xD

[Peabody]

Mr Peabody, can you get a more high res avatar pretty please?

But...

I had this for years...

But...

[Shinobi]

Up until this post, your last few posts were anti-town at best and scummy at worst. Would you like to actually contribute to the game now?

[Shinobi]

Ebwop:

Up until this post, your last few posts were anti-town at best and scummy at worst. Would you like to actually contribute to the game now?

lol

[Shinobi]

I'm putting BBT in my anti-sheep list. That's how little faith I have in him right now.

[Metal Sonic]

Mr Peabody, can you get a more high res avatar pretty please?

But...

I had this for years...

But...

I like how you had your account before the movie came out xD



@Shinobi, yeah, BBT just 'doesn't get it'

[beastcharizard]

Scripten replaces EspressoDan!

[Josh_B]

Yea! Scripten.[/sarcasm]

[Peabody]

Rocky and Bullwinkle \m/

[Josh_B]

Zebulin, What do you think about the interactions between NPAU and GM?

[Zebulin]

Zebulin, What do you think about the interactions between NPAU and GM?

I feel like their argument against each other is the other person's argument is bad, which a bad argument and circular logic. My gut says it's town vs town, but I'm not 100% sure. (Well, no one is except the scum or if they're the 2 masons.)

[nopointinactingup]

Hmm, maybe you shouldn't town-read people so quickly.

I like this comment from BBT. Very townish. I can't tell you how many times I've town read someone for little or no reason only to get burned later. I think I remember Wolfy making this comment recently in another thread. But alas, town hunting is just as important as scum hunting. And getting it wrong is part of the game.

Does this in anyway imply that he's more townish?

And I think there were more ppl voting goodmorning

True dat. and that post 29 really struck me as the scummiest post so far.

Unvote:Huntress.
Vote: Good morning

@BBT:

So, all-in-all your post was pretty wishy-washy then? Covering both sides of the argument. That's a good scum-tell.

I want

you

to point out my inconsistencies. Show me where I have been inconsistent.

Wishy washy? Did you just take that up from

your ass

nowhere? I took into account the small possibility that I was wrong but still pretty damn insistent on MS town. Anyone who's reading can see that.

*Inconsistency. LOOK CLOSELY cuz I've already mentioned it. Actually I want everyone to look at this for future reference
post 55
post 56
post 58
post 64
post 65
post 68
post 76
3 things stand out here. He said he had found scum (meant MS). Ask others to sheep him

multiple times

AND link MS to supposed scumbuddy.
This must mean he has a pretty adamant scum read on MS right??

When asked about why he thought MS was scum. The only reply I could see are:
post 76 I didn't like what he did, which is not in any way related to "he's scum"
post 101 This is a crucial post. After being pressured about his read on MS. He said he "couldn't see the reason behind MS's gambit post". That means he couldn't have found a scum reason for it either.
Which brings us to why he was so adamant about MS being scum early on? I cannot see BBT-town doing this. I can see BBT-scum doing this, but only as chainsaw defense for good morning, which is relatively weak as a tell.

[goodmorning]

Zebulin, What do you think about the interactions between NPAU and GM?

I feel like their argument against each other is the other person's argument is bad, which a bad argument and circular logic. My gut says it's town vs town, but I'm not 100% sure. (Well, no one is except the scum or if they're the 2 masons.)

What? I'm saying he's

not reading my fucking posts

.

His argument would be fine IF IT WAS BASED ON REALITY.

[Huntress]

The nae of the others is Alpha Sapphire, goodmorning, and BlueBloodedToffee. ESPECIALLY BlueBloodedToffee. There you go.

Alpha Sapphire said GM had a funny name, I doubt GM made a case against herself, and BBT agreed with MS but said he didn't see anything that's particularly townie or particularly scummy from her so far. So where are these "valid points"?

I have specifically stated why I was scum-reading MS, I even quoted the post for you to read. I don't know how you're still talking about this.

You didn't quote it to me, but if you mean the post you linked for npau then that's the very post I was following up in the first place, so it's kinda circular to point me back to it.

No, it isn't inconsistent. I think you're accusing me of being a hypocrite, which is wrong either way. I changed my vote once and it was to place my first serious vote. MS changed his twice, both onto people who were suspicious of him or questioning him within the first 3-and-a-bit pages. There is a big difference. In fact, I don't even think MS' first vote on GM was RVS so he may have had 3 votes in just over 3 pages.

Finally an answer - but I think I disagree with you on the nature of the votes, they look quite understandable for early day votes to me, and in each case the votee posted before the vote was moved off them. Your "big difference" seems to be purely in the number of votes which I don't see as significant.

Were there main wagons? I didn't notice. There are still some unfounded RVS posts on the board.

GM, BBT and MS. Yes, I know that the actual votes were a bit on and off but there was enough talk about them to give that impression. With GM in particular MS and BBT were claiming there were more votes on her than there ever were. The four rvs votes still on the board are all on different people.

Well then climb aboard. I don't think the EspressoDan thing is going anywhere. Also I think it's funny that he said "'We' spent 2-3 pages discussing Sonic's wording and grammar.." when that dude was nowhere to be found.

Vote: Zebulan

[Shinobi]

Can someone explain the goodmorning case to me?

And don't use MS's case because that case is tuurbz.

[Peabody]

NPAU, why did you vote GM over BBT? Because if I'm understanding you right, you are basing a GM scum read off of a BBT scum read.