NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)

shaddowez · Post Post #4050 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:31 pm

"mirhawk in the neighborhood was convinced in titus sk btw" =/= "Mirhawk has made a case that could result in Titus being the SK or scum, or still town"

If you had said Mir had a feeling of scum Titus, I wouldn't have called you a liar. What you said was a lie.

Mir

- I know you made a case, I pointed that out as well. As just stated, what Oka said was a lie. That may not be what he intended, but it's what he wrote.

Psyche · Post Post #4051 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:38 pm

I think I'm in the mood to start playing again, but I don't know where to start.

OkaPoka · Post Post #4052 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:39 pm

tunnels are awesome

Mirhawk · Post Post #4053 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:43 pm

SK HAS to be one of the following players.
MuffinMan
Majiffy
Peregrine
notscience
Shaddowez
RoyalApe

The list for possible scum is similar, but a little different.
MuffinMan
Majiffy
Peregrine
notscience
Shaddowez
RoyalApe
Alina
Marquis
Psyche
Oka

I have reasons to think Oka is unlikely to be scum. I'm also inclined to believe that Marquis and Psyche are actually masons.

Mirhawk · Post Post #4054 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:44 pm

The SK list is non-negotiable. The SK HAS to be in those people.

Mirhawk · Post Post #4055 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:48 pm

The scum list does not take godfathers into consideration.

shaddowez · Post Post #4056 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:54 pm

In post 4053, Mirhawk wrote:SK HAS to be one of the following players.
MuffinMan
Majiffy
Peregrine
notscience
Shaddowez
Skybird

The list for possible scum is similar, but a little different.
MuffinMan
Majiffy
Peregrine
notscience
Shaddowez
Skybird
Alina
Marquis
Psyche
Oka

I have reasons to think Oka is unlikely to be scum. I'm also inclined to believe that Marquis and Psyche are actually masons.

First - RoyalApe is no longer in the game, it is now Skybird. I've fixed that in the quote.

Second - So, your scum list is everybody in the game except you and the two confirmed townies. Also, if there's a godfather or an investigation immune SK, you can't count out either of the cop confirms for either list....so, basically, you're saying the only person that is town is you, and everyone else is either scum or the SK? That's helpful...

OkaPoka · Post Post #4057 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:56 pm

VOTE: mir

alright im confident now

Mirhawk · Post Post #4058 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:02 pm

That list is helpful to me. I'm sorry if you find it less than helpful.

We likely have three scum left. Discounting the people I think are unlikely to be scum that leaves me with three scum in seven people.

The SK has to be one scum in Six people, but most of the people overlap.

Mirhawk · Post Post #4059 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:06 pm

I think finding the SK should be the priority. Not only is the list smaller and less prone to opinion, lynching the SK would buy us another day before lylo.

OkaPoka · Post Post #4060 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:06 pm

lynching scum would be better. Sk and scum will try to cross kill.

Mirhawk · Post Post #4061 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:08 pm

Not to mention that there's almost certainly scum in that list too.

Mirhawk · Post Post #4062 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:19 pm

In post 4060, OkaPoka wrote:lynching scum would be better. Sk and scum will try to cross kill.

Right now there's three scum and nine town. The SK's probably content to hit either side at the moment.

Six more townies have to die for scum to have a chance, that's not precisely urgent.

OkaPoka · Post Post #4063 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:21 pm

how would you know these exact numbers?

Mirhawk · Post Post #4064 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:25 pm

The only other options are:
-5 man scum team + SK
-5 man scum team with mafia Vig

I view both of those to be less likely then:
-4 man scum team + SK

zMuffinMan · Post Post #4065 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:27 pm

mirhawk is probably not scum. oka probably is

OkaPoka · Post Post #4066 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:28 pm

What if there is 4 mafia and an SK?

We had a bodyguard, roleblocker, doc, and cop. It could make sense with the amount of pr 's we have plus we have a masonry.

Mirhawk · Post Post #4067 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:30 pm

That's what I'm saying.

When I say there's three scum I'm not counting the one who's already dead.

OkaPoka · Post Post #4068 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:47 pm

ohhhhhhhhhhh

shaddowez · Post Post #4069 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:26 pm

Mir

- who would you put at the top of each of your lists (scum and SK)?

Muffin

- Any reason for that call?

reinoe · Post Post #4070 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:57 pm

@SHADOWEZ&GAMEPLAY

Skybird softed a role. OkaPoka claimed Doc. Why do you think neither of them got killed. As an addendum, why do you think OkaPoka has avoided being nightkilled six times?

shaddowez · Post Post #4071 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:04 pm

renioe

- I'm not sure about Sky. The factions may have both considered the cop a bigger threat with the late game. As for why Oka is still alive, I asked the same thing towards the beginning of D3 in 3213.

shaddowez · Post Post #4072 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:05 pm

Which should have been followed up with, I'm not sure how he survived yet another night.

gameplay506 · Post Post #4073 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:47 pm

@reinoe the scum is obviously not searching for pr and thus killing only strong players. That is why I am not surprised oka who can be like so dumb and Sky who is super suspected to be still alive.
Mir why did you post your thoughts on Titus scum in the nb compared to the thread?

gameplay506 · Post Post #4074 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:55 pm

By judging how aero talked about Oka in the nb I dont see them being buddies.
Oka may be SK tho.