Open 570: Making Friends and Enemies (Mafia Wins!)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I agree that it does look weird.

I agreed that GM looked scummy because she was posting elsewhere, especially as she had posted saying she was working on a reads-list and we were still waiting for that reads-list at that time.

It looked like stalling and an attempt to avoid anyone focusing on her.

[davesaz]

And since?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Nothing has changed.

[Malakittens]

It should considering the activity in which I thought was content in other games just turned out to be mod posting.

Does that change anything bbt?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Has it changed the fact that GM is barely contributing? No.

Has it changed the fact that I don't feel she has been scum-hunting. No.

Has it changed the fact that I think GM is scum. No.

Has it changed my view on GM's posting elsewhere. Yes.

[Malakittens]

Uh Gm is contributing. I fail to see how she's not now. She might not have been before but she is now.

Please tell me where she isn't scum hunting.

[goodmorning]

So I guess the one I didn't notice leaves Shinobi back at the previous point of just a scum lean and near the top of that list. The reason it doesn't swing all the way to town for me is that scum could make the same point that Shinobi did in order to cast doubts on the townpeople on the NPAU wagon to deflect suspicion from a buddy.

I see. I don't agree but I do understand. Thanks for answering.

I wish the people I was unsure of would post a bit more. I'd like to know in particular what Huntress thinks of Mala at present.

[uctriton00]

Shinobi just shot up the scum charts for me

[uctriton00]

I slept on it and thought about it the rest of the day, unfortunately there's no update. I'm just not seeing the town motivation behind anything being said right now.

Bar him cueing up a total backtrack right now (which he basically gave up his only out of calling it a reaction test, and has said that it's a straight scum read), I don't see how his poking is town motivated. I've wrapped it around my head for a while and still can't see it.

[uctriton00]

The reason it doesn't swing all the way to town for me is that scum could make the same point that Shinobi did in order to cast doubts on the townpeople on the NPAU wagon to deflect suspicion from a buddy.

Do you see town motivation in Shinobi's posts, esp. the latest ones where he started stabbing at me?

[uctriton00]

^^^ Actually hold on, scratch that, I'd prefer you don't answer that until Shinobi comes in and speaks, I don't want him to parrot off anything you or anyone else has to say.

Hold onto the thought and come back to it later.

[uctriton00]

Also ISO'd huntress because I don't think I've ever talked about her yet.

At first I'd agree that she just sits and asks questions (which is the easiest way to play scum IMO, but that's a whole other discussion) which is suspicious, but her calling out the NPAU vote on her is good. If NPAU was scum, and probably bussing or something, they would at least get a bit more "into it", i.e. a bus usually looks more legitimate than a very dim passive interaction. I'd call her probable town too, using the power of more speculative associative reading.

[Metal Sonic]

they are beating around the bush and circlejerking i dont like that

I will just skim ok

[davesaz]

I want to see uctritron00 v. Shinobi from a 3rd party view.

[uctriton00]

Me too

[Shinobi]

I slept on it and thought about it the rest of the day, unfortunately there's no update. I'm just not seeing the town motivation behind anything being said right now.

Bar him cueing up a total backtrack right now (which he basically gave up his only out of calling it a reaction test, and has said that it's a straight scum read), I don't see how his poking is town motivated. I've wrapped it around my head for a while and still can't see it.

So where's the scum motivation, specifically?

You're saying that there's no town motivation whatsoever, but you leave any other kind of interpretation of my actions out of your posts.

[Shinobi]

I'm going to hold on to my case for a while, because how it turns out depends on how you answer my next few questions.

[Josh_B]

Yes, but if you read my posts Josh you will realize that my scum read on Nyayayaa had merit. Nyayaya was obv posting elsewhere and fully aware this game was ongoing. (I asked the day start PMs to make sure he was aware the game started)

Your omgus read/vote on me is noted though!

You cant omgus an omgus when you omgused first. I claim being the fist one to be suspicious.
And before i moved my vote to you, i was saying that we should lynch Heph. Same slot different circumstances. I agreed that nya was lurking and i said that lynching nya was ok with me. But now its later in the game, im voting a semi-active player who appears to be scum, and youre going back to saying that im policy lynching.

If your nya read had so much merit, why are you voting me and not heph?

[Shinobi]

Stop worrying about Mala because Mala is town. That entire conversation is basically nothing more than useless meta arguments combined with playstyle clashes, which results in nothing but meaningless white noise. If Mala is somehow scum here, then whatever the fuck you guys are doing basically just gave her a lot to talk about. We are not lynching an outspoken/active player on day 1.

Instead, let's focus on the guy I'm voting. The guy who was posting here not even a minute before I was and then immediately fucks off when I pressure him.

[beastcharizard]

Vote Count

Goodmorning: hephaestus, nopointinactingup
hephaestus: Peabody
Metal Sonic: Goodmorning
nopointinactingup: Scripten, Metal Sonic, Huntress, ucitron00, davesaz
Josh_B: Malakittens
Malakittens: BlueBloodedToffee, Josh_B
ucitron00: shinobi

Not voting: davesaz
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-10-04 20:45:00)

Prodded Scripten as well. Was gonna try to page top this but yall don't post enough.

[goodmorning]

The reason it doesn't swing all the way to town for me is that scum could make the same point that Shinobi did in order to cast doubts on the townpeople on the NPAU wagon to deflect suspicion from a buddy.

Do you see town motivation in Shinobi's posts, esp. the latest ones where he started stabbing at me?

You're joking, right?

[uctriton00]

I'm going to hold on to my case for a while, because how it turns out depends on how you answer my next few questions.

That answers that.

If you had an actual case or backing behind your vote, why not share it?

[uctriton00]

Simple question shinobi:

What is your case on me?

Without help from others, please show your work.

[Shinobi]

Simple question shinobi:

What is your case on me?

Without help from others, please show your work.

See, the fun part about this game is that I'm not required to explain anything to you. Even if you don't answer my question, I'm still going to get people to vote you for being mafia.

Alternatively alternatively:

The reason it doesn't swing all the way to town for me is that scum could make the same point that Shinobi did in order to cast doubts on the townpeople on the NPAU wagon to deflect suspicion from a buddy.

Do you see town motivation in Shinobi's posts, esp. the latest ones where he started stabbing at me?

You could stop being so hypocritical.

[uctriton00]

1. Ok, you're scum with NPAU.

Vote: Shinobi

2. I'm not sure what is hypocritical