NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)

[House]

So here goes nothing.

I was going to claim a cop since I was getting called scum and didn't want to be lynched as doc. You see I was going to claim cop to take a bullet. And my "special plan" was to protect myself, as in my role pm it did not say I couldn't protect myself. I did not want to cause a mess so I didn't claim in thread, but talked in qt suggesting it. Wake clarified with me, that I couldn't protect myself.

Finally after that was clarified I considered a pgo claim to make it so I wouldn't die.

I kept this "special plan" to scare scum.

There is my explanation

I'm pretty fucking new to Mafia, but even I smell the b/s this is saturated with.

You would think a supposed PR would know how his role is supposed to work before he/she gambits with it. Especially in this case,where the fact a doctor can't self-protect is

BOLDED IN THE WIKI

.

It's no wonder Alina was tunneling you, you're scum!

HEY YOU! IN MY ROLE PM IT DIDN'T STATE I COULDN'T PROTECT MYSELF. ALSO IN SOME VARIATIONS DOCTORS CAN PROTECT THEMSELVES! SO READ THE ENTIRE THING! I HAD TO BE SURE!

k thx

Of course it didn't say you couldn't protect yourself.I it also didn't say you couldn't protect anyone else. Nor did it say you could.

The wiki states quite plainly doctor can't self-protect.

Variations

would need to be specified in a role pm, NOT vanilla attributes.

Sorry, but I'm not as easily suckered as some other folks.

[House]

Wow, 3 pages of not much.

@House

- please read my spec on the neighborhoods and scum existence/distribution in them. Also read my posts on the voting patterns and counts. It's all in my ISO. Would like to see your thought-out comments.

I think speculation is weak grounds to advocate a lynch, or even point a finger. Wake loves his random distros.

Crunch some numbers. Randomly, what is the odds of at least one scum in each hood?

How many scum? How many neighborhoods, three? Are we also including the SK in the scum total, or are they a separate consideration?

Math was never my super strong suit, but I can give it a shot, or you can just tell us since I'm sure you've already done it.

[House]

Wow, 3 pages of not much.

@House

- please read my spec on the neighborhoods and scum existence/distribution in them. Also read my posts on the voting patterns and counts. It's all in my ISO. Would like to see your thought-out comments.

I think speculation is weak grounds to advocate a lynch, or even point a finger. Wake loves his random distros.

You are speculating that I am lying. Oh wait

Your lies aren't setup spec, they are scum fabrications.

[House]

House's read on me

Eh, that was my initial impression.

My read is leaning SK, because SK can easily blend in with town by scum hunting, which bus then town cred and makes it easier to overlook the anti-town tendencies.

[House]

House's read on me

Eh, that was my initial impression.

My read is leaning SK, because SK can easily blend in with town by scum hunting, which buys them town cred and makes it easier to overlook the anti-town tendencies.

Fix't. FU autocorrect.

[notscience]

You know who loves to SK hunt a lot?

I bet Majiffy does

[House]

Oka sure is squirming a lot for one piddly ass newbie poking them with a stick.

If I was a PR, I wouldn't be trying to kick up such a fuss unless the wagon got wheels.

[notscience]

It's almost like more than 1 player has been voicing doubt re:his claim

[OkaPoka]

Oka sure is squirming a lot for one piddly ass newbie poking them with a stick.

If I was a PR, I wouldn't be trying to kick up such a fuss unless the wagon got wheels.

Okay. Whatever you say. This is so fucking hilarious and now if you guys lynch me I don't care. I just want to laugh at house.

[reinoe]

Okay. Whatever you say. This is so fucking hilarious and now if you guys lynch me I don't care. I just want to laugh at house.

Oka, I'm having an existential crisis re: you being alive.

1)Describe the activity in your neighborhood. Who's been talking about what.

2) I'm having a lot of trouble reconciling my "there's a roleblocker wrt to your doctor claim. It dawned on me that if there's a RB then they would have just paralyzed Titus and wouldn't waste time with you. You claimed 3-shot doctor when you didn't claim this initially. Have you used your last shot?

3)I actually liked your push on Texcat on D1, but there's a lot to dislike re everything else about your play. Whom are your scumreads and why? Whom are your townreads and why? Do not include claim status re: your reasons.

[OkaPoka]

1) nobody is talking

2) why should i say

3) look at my vote.

[Mirhawk]

MuffinMan
- Little to say about Muffin that I already haven't said. If he's scum then the only living player I'd say he's associated with is me.
- Farsides posts are mostly townish sounding. though it should be noted that Farside spent a lot of time defending both Aero and Tree.

Majiffy
- Probably town. He has a lot of posts so I'm not going to bother justifying this other than saying a lot of his day one posts are pretty town. He manages to transition to shitty posting later, but whatever.

Peregrine
- Don't have much to say about Peregrine either. Been leaning townish since yesterday.

notscience
- Notscum. Nothing disqualifies him from being a SK, but he's not scum.
- You know what, I'm going to call him town. Why not.

Shaddowez
- Null. Despite a slew of reasonable posts I keep getting the feeling that shadow is noncommitive towards his reads.

Skybird
-Royalape was pretty low effort. I didn't see pretty much anything worth mentioning. Skybird is more of the same. I'd say null on both of them.

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If I pick one from the above list I would go with Muffin. Mostly becasue of the way farside reacted to players who were voting Aero. Muffin himself if pretty much null. I figure muffin has decent odds of flipping scum or SK.

A backup on that would probably be shadow or skybird.

[Mirhawk]

Vote: Muffin

[Mirhawk]

Our neighborhood is vacant. I've more or less given up trying to coax my neighbors into conversation.

[reinoe]

2) why should i say

3) look at my vote.

Oh, ok then. I was planning on looking at your response and then thinking long and hard about whether I should do this but those two shit answers makes me no longer give a fuck...


I'm a customized role called "The Shield". Three times I may protect two people from night-kills. I'm like a better doctor.

I didn't want to cc immediately because it's possible that there would multiple protective roles in this Wake Game. I'm tired of arguing with myself about why there's a claimed doctor alive who has now avoided six nightkills.

VOTE: OkaPoka

[OkaPoka]

okay.

Cool.

[shaddowez]

2) why should i say

3) look at my vote.

Oh, ok then. I was planning on looking at your response and then thinking long and hard about whether I should do this but those two shit answers makes me no longer give a fuck...


I'm a customized role called "The Shield". Three times I may protect two people from night-kills. I'm like a better doctor.

I didn't want to cc immediately because it's possible that there would multiple protective roles in this Wake Game. I'm tired of arguing with myself about why there's a claimed doctor alive who has now avoided six nightkills.

VOTE: OkaPoka

Don't think I need any more convincing. I've had a pretty good town read on Reinoe the entire time, and my thoughts on Oka from 3174 and 3213 are basically just being echoed here.

VOTE: Oka

[Psyche]

isnt this a normal

[notscience]

VOTE: reinoe

[notscience]

wake had that exact role a while ago in a mini normal

idr which it was

but it had 2 shots which may be used on the same night

thats just blatantly overpowered

[OkaPoka]

Maybe reinoe is gf? Unlikely but hmmm

[Psyche]

like, could that role even occur in this game

[Psyche]

and this many people be dead by now

[Mirhawk]

Unvote

Vote: Oka

Not a chance.

[Mirhawk]

Unvote

Wait I misread something.