NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)

[reinoe]

Hey phone posting.

Can you show me the post where Mirhawk claimed tracker and insisted that he be protected? Because house's assertion that I should know whom the scum would kill is really shitty. I constantly expressed my frustration with the scum kills precisely because they got around all my protects. In fact I talked about it more than anyone.

Also House asserts that my claim was bs but still happily voted OKa yesterday. You can piss off with that bullshit.

X-shot doc claim was shitty too, and he was hammered by gameplay before he clarified on it.

What's your excuse?

Is this real life? Is that a real question? Are you honestly asking why I voted for OKa?

[House]

Hey phone posting.

Can you show me the post where Mirhawk claimed tracker and insisted that he be protected? Because house's assertion that I should know whom the scum would kill is really shitty. I constantly expressed my frustration with the scum kills precisely because they got around all my protects. In fact I talked about it more than anyone.

Also House asserts that my claim was bs but still happily voted OKa yesterday. You can piss off with that bullshit.

X-shot doc claim was shitty too, and he was hammered by gameplay before he clarified on it.

What's your excuse?

Is this real life? Is that a real question? Are you honestly asking why I voted for OKa?

No, I'm asking for your excuse for your bs claim.

Are you going to make us put you at L-1 before you come clean too? Remember, gameplay likes to ninja hammer.

[reinoe]

Hey phone posting.

Can you show me the post where Mirhawk claimed tracker and insisted that he be protected? Because house's assertion that I should know whom the scum would kill is really shitty. I constantly expressed my frustration with the scum kills precisely because they got around all my protects. In fact I talked about it more than anyone.

Also House asserts that my claim was bs but still happily voted OKa yesterday. You can piss off with that bullshit.

X-shot doc claim was shitty too, and he was hammered by gameplay before he clarified on it.

What's your excuse?

Is this real life? Is that a real question? Are you honestly asking why I voted for OKa?

No, I'm asking for your excuse for your bs claim.

Are you going to make us put you at L-1 before you come clean too? Remember, gameplay likes to ninja hammer.

Go ahead and put me at l-1. I'll self hammer.

[House]

Hey phone posting.

Can you show me the post where Mirhawk claimed tracker and insisted that he be protected? Because house's assertion that I should know whom the scum would kill is really shitty. I constantly expressed my frustration with the scum kills precisely because they got around all my protects. In fact I talked about it more than anyone.

Also House asserts that my claim was bs but still happily voted OKa yesterday. You can piss off with that bullshit.

X-shot doc claim was shitty too, and he was hammered by gameplay before he clarified on it.

What's your excuse?

Is this real life? Is that a real question? Are you honestly asking why I voted for OKa?

No, I'm asking for your excuse for your bs claim.

Are you going to make us put you at L-1 before you come clean too? Remember, gameplay likes to ninja hammer.

Go ahead and put me at l-1. I'll self hammer.

So on top of making a bs claim, you're willing to deny town info.

That really clears your name!

[reinoe]

Hey phone posting.

Can you show me the post where Mirhawk claimed tracker and insisted that he be protected? Because house's assertion that I should know whom the scum would kill is really shitty. I constantly expressed my frustration with the scum kills precisely because they got around all my protects. In fact I talked about it more than anyone.

Also House asserts that my claim was bs but still happily voted OKa yesterday. You can piss off with that bullshit.

X-shot doc claim was shitty too, and he was hammered by gameplay before he clarified on it.

What's your excuse?

Is this real life? Is that a real question? Are you honestly asking why I voted for OKa?

No, I'm asking for your excuse for your bs claim.

Are you going to make us put you at L-1 before you come clean too? Remember, gameplay likes to ninja hammer.

Go ahead and put me at l-1. I'll self hammer.

So on top of making a bs claim, you're willing to deny town info.

That really clears your name!

I almost always self-hammer as town if I think the wagon on me is shit.

[House]

I almost always self-hammer as town if I think the wagon on me is shit.

Know who else self-hammers? Scum. Don't self-hammer.

[Psyche]

I almost always self-hammer as town if I think the wagon on me is shit.

that's really dumb

[shaddowez]

Can we please just ml me today instead of later

What's "ml"?

There's two scum in Pere/zmuffin/Majiffy

Look at how impossible it was to wagon them compAres to the ease of the tn5421 Lynch.

Also nice gambit Titus.

Yep.

If you're assuming a second scum out of that group, why PV over Muffin? Farside's reads early game were terrible, and I haven't seen enough from Muffin to make me think he's more than a null.

Hey phone posting.

Can you show me the post where Mirhawk claimed tracker and insisted that he be protected? Because house's assertion that I should know whom the scum would kill is really shitty. I constantly expressed my frustration with the scum kills precisely because they got around all my protects. In fact I talked about it more than anyone.

Also House asserts that my claim was bs but still happily voted OKa yesterday. You can piss off with that bullshit.

I have to agree that Reinoe can't be entirely to blame here - he also claimed that it's a 3-shot, so technically he could have used them all the first three nights (which wouldn't help the fact that him and Oka missed all three previous nights, but would explain N4).

If there is a godfather, I'm actually more tempted to believe it's Gameplay than reinoe.

D1 - Aegor lynch. Gameplay isn't on the wagon, but is sitting on Oka with Aero (confirmed scum) and RoyalApe/Skybird (being scum read by multiple people)
D2 - Aero lynch, his vote is sitting nicely right in the middle, after Titus stated he was lying about his result.
D3 - tn lynch. Gameplay's vote is on Mirhawk, the only other person voting Mirhawk was Majiffy.
D4 - Oka lynch. Quick hammers.

Also, all of these:

I think the Aero wagon is scum motivated. The scummiest on it so far are Shadow, T S O and NS.

Sk and one mafia team ok

VOTE: Psyche

Right now I am ok with both oka and psyche. Reinoe is ok too.

With this and my reads it leaves only Psyche out. So if Psyche ( maybe NS) isn't scum then it's Aero. And

VOTE: Psyche

Josh isn't a strong town player at all and even less a conf. town. Stop being shitty.

Wait why is he being wagoned?

Another mislynch

Ok so I vote.
I want night cus I need to read sorry

VOTE: Oka

It's probably the unpopular opinion since he's one of Titus' cop cleared, but I'm still going to do this for now, based on looking more into it:
VOTE: gameplay

[notscience]

mislynch

[House]

Can we please just ml me today instead of later

What's "ml"?

There's two scum in Pere/zmuffin/Majiffy

Look at how impossible it was to wagon them compAres to the ease of the tn5421 Lynch.

Also nice gambit Titus.

Yep.

If you're assuming a second scum out of that group, why PV over Muffin? Farside's reads early game were terrible, and I haven't seen enough from Muffin to make me think he's more than a null.

Hey phone posting.

Can you show me the post where Mirhawk claimed tracker and insisted that he be protected? Because house's assertion that I should know whom the scum would kill is really shitty. I constantly expressed my frustration with the scum kills precisely because they got around all my protects. In fact I talked about it more than anyone.

Also House asserts that my claim was bs but still happily voted OKa yesterday. You can piss off with that bullshit.

I have to agree that Reinoe can't be entirely to blame here - he also claimed that it's a 3-shot, so technically he could have used them all the first three nights (which wouldn't help the fact that him and Oka missed all three previous nights, but would explain N4).

If there is a godfather, I'm actually more tempted to believe it's Gameplay than reinoe.

D1 - Aegor lynch. Gameplay isn't on the wagon, but is sitting on Oka with Aero (confirmed scum) and RoyalApe/Skybird (being scum read by multiple people)
D2 - Aero lynch, his vote is sitting nicely right in the middle, after Titus stated he was lying about his result.
D3 - tn lynch. Gameplay's vote is on Mirhawk, the only other person voting Mirhawk was Majiffy.
D4 - Oka lynch. Quick hammers.

Also, all of these:

I think the Aero wagon is scum motivated. The scummiest on it so far are Shadow, T S O and NS.

Sk and one mafia team ok

VOTE: Psyche

Right now I am ok with both oka and psyche. Reinoe is ok too.

With this and my reads it leaves only Psyche out. So if Psyche ( maybe NS) isn't scum then it's Aero. And

VOTE: Psyche

Josh isn't a strong town player at all and even less a conf. town. Stop being shitty.

Wait why is he being wagoned?

Another mislynch

Ok so I vote.
I want night cus I need to read sorry

VOTE: Oka

It's probably the unpopular opinion since he's one of Titus' cop cleared, but I'm still going to do this for now, based on looking more into it:
VOTE: gameplay

I can actually buy that. gameplay's 180 & quickhammer really soured me on him.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: gameplay506

[House]

reinoe's claim is still bs, but considering his history I am willing to write it off as a VI gambit despite his claims to the contrary.

gameplay's 180 on Oka was a hard scumtell.

[House]

As has already been pointed out, reinoe's bs claim out of nowhere is what gave the wagon wheels.

Show me the timeline of reinoe claim and the buildup of votes. Because the VC looks like Majiffy & gameplay are the "wheels" of which you speak.

gameplay was the quickhammer, Einstein.

[House]

Hey phone posting.

Can you show me the post where Mirhawk claimed tracker and insisted that he be protected? Because house's assertion that I should know whom the scum would kill is really shitty. I constantly expressed my frustration with the scum kills precisely because they got around all my protects. In fact I talked about it more than anyone.

Also House asserts that my claim was bs but still happily voted OKa yesterday. You can piss off with that bullshit.

Tell me reinoe, how do you think Mirhawk knew this:

@reinoe
Alina's not the serial killer.

What do you make of this:

Humor me for a moment and pretend that Oka targeted Josh night one.

Josh would be a bad or impossible target for all of those roles.

So what would that make Oka?

(I'll confess, I really didn't know what to make of it until after the fact... but I don't even have any completed games under my belt)

[Skybird]

I think reinoe's town.

Gameplay's play lately has been very weird. He hasn't been back to the neighborhood as far as I can tell, even though he asked me a couple of questions. I even let him know in thread that I answered him in the hood. Hammering just because you want night so you can catch up is bs.

[shaddowez]

What do you make of this:

Humor me for a moment and pretend that Oka targeted Josh night one.

Josh would be a bad or impossible target for all of those roles.

So what would that make Oka?

(I'll confess, I really didn't know what to make of it until after the fact... but I don't even have any completed games under my belt)

Mir and I actually talked about this in the hood for a little bit, and came up with the idea of Watcher. If scum thought that Josh's claim may draw a cop or doctor, they could have seen who else targeted him. No other hints were dropped that made me think Mir was a tracker.

[House]

What do you make of this:

Humor me for a moment and pretend that Oka targeted Josh night one.

Josh would be a bad or impossible target for all of those roles.

So what would that make Oka?

(I'll confess, I really didn't know what to make of it until after the fact... but I don't even have any completed games under my belt)

Mir and I actually talked about this in the hood for a little bit, and came up with the idea of Watcher. If scum thought that Josh's claim may draw a cop or doctor, they could have seen who else targeted him. No other hints were dropped that made me think Mir was a tracker.

But Mir was hinting that he saw Oka visit Josh, is my point.

[House]

I almost always self-hammer as town if I think the wagon on me is shit.

that's really dumb

Yeah. You're next.

[Psyche]

at least im not self-hammering

[House]

at least im not self-hammering

Yeah, there is that.

Maybe tree.

[gameplay506]

Omg what is this shit.

So you think I am godfather, huh?

[House]

Omg what is this shit.

So you think I am godfather, huh?

I'd never pigeonhole you like that, buddy.

II SK is a possibility.

[gameplay506]

Lolz Sk? Pls.

Again i ask. Godfather and ii SK in a 21 person game with only 1 cop? The cop cant even be saved. Like if he cant be saved and there are ii roles then this is like shitty.
This is like so silly. Drop the shit house

[House]

Lolz Sk? Pls.

Again i ask. Godfather and ii SK in a 21 person game with only 1 cop? The cop cant even be saved. Like if he cant be saved and there are ii roles then this is like shitty.
This is like so silly. Drop the shit house

Oh right. Well since you said to drop the shit...

But wait, there was more than just a cop, wasn't there?

I'm counting cop, bodyguard, tracker, doctor, and 2 masons.

Yeah... Your squirming is bad.

[House]

Oh wait, there's also reinoe's broken ass claim if you buy that bullshit, too.

[gameplay506]

Loll this above was sad.

Like we are talking about why there arent ii roles. Does doc investigate? Nope. Does bodyguard investigate? Nope. Oh wait trackers investigate but then I have to be tracker immune not cop immune. Soo lets do this again:
Investigative roles:
1 tracker and 1 cop. If I was ii I had to be ii to either the tracker and the cop. And then to what conclusion do we get? We dont have ii roles. Gj me.
And let me ask you this. If there really were ii roles why did the cop get so nerfed? I mean he cant be doc protected nor saved by any way then why is he so nerfed? Huh. Ii roles and 1 cop who cant be saved seems really bad. So ye gj genius.

And then if there really were ii roles. Like am ii SK as you say. Why did bith the SK and mafia rush to kill Titus then?
You see you are just posting shiat, more shiat and bigger shiat.