Open 570: Making Friends and Enemies (Mafia Wins!)

[Josh_B]

Oh. Looking at the vote count and who is on the wagon, I need to do serious re-evaluation of my townreads if Josh is town.

You should start now.

[Shinobi]

@Mala: it looked like Josh was basically conceding and talking to Wisdom like he was town while still scumreading him for no reason. Someone else covered it a bit probably. He's still defending himself but his defenses are still "eh."

Don't like how that's the only thing Mala wants to address while major shit is going down in thread. She fixates on a tiny thing that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of today, but maybe it's just because of the V/LA.

I have some opinions on the current atmosphere but they're useless without flips. I'll just hold off on them for a while.

I think I have questions for some people at some point. I'll probably ask them later if I remember but I cba right now.

[Josh_B]

Well, I'm at L-1.

I'm pretty all of the scum is already on the wagon. But with only 3 scum, it means 2 towns have already voted for me.
Clearly this means I've lost the argument with wisdom to a marginal degree, or it just means that scum have upvoted the wagon.

Unless someone wants to do something else. I've giving a 96 hour intent to hammer if I stay at L-1. It is obvious that my Role PM is needed for certain people to move forward.
And I probably won't spam the thread with anything until closer to that time.

[Shinobi]

You might as well claim now if you're going to self.

[Shinobi]

I still don't even understand the majority of your scumreads either.

[Wisdom]

I don't think anyone needs you to claim, no

[Wisdom]

goodmorning, disagree josh is scum?

[Josh_B]

Vanilla.

[Wisdom]

UNVOTE:

Don't want you to selfhammer and halt discussion. Goodmorning might as well finish reading.

[Shinobi]

I'd still rather his claim be out in the open.

We still need people to vote and stuff, Mala hasn't even gotten the chance to get off of V/LA yet.

And

we have almost two weeks left.

[Wisdom]

Which doesn't mean we have to wait two weeks before we lynch. The sooner the better.

But yeah, people talking a little more before we do would be good.

[uctriton00]

Not sure if i agree that in the case josh is town, that the entire scum team would be on the wagon

I'd think there are scum both on the wagon and off any wagon; I have no evidence to prove it but I'd think in general scum teams split presence in all directions

As to the actions of talking and such, I think Hephaestus is still a prime candidate for being a lurker teammate if he is scum. I'm prone to believe in most games, there's usually one low content lurker there.

[Wisdom]

Who would you think is scum if josh flipped town?

[uctriton00]

Tbh me

[uctriton00]

But then I'd implore you to go after Shinobi just for fun

[uctriton00]

*if I were to be lunched

[Wisdom]

What do you mean "me"? You would think you are scum..?

[uctriton00]

Gut would say there's a lurker, maybe heph
Peabody fits the profile too due to gut and sheeping of you
If its both heph and peabody then 3rd is probably someone random like mala

[uctriton00]

What do you mean "me"? You would think you are scum..?

That was a joke

[Shinobi]

But then I'd implore you to go after Shinobi just for fun

I believe that the most important thing that we got out of our back and forth is that I am more town than you.

I feel as if this is very important and I will continue to talk about it as an important plot point.

[Wisdom]

Tbh, after rereading, I find uctriton more town than you. I just didn't like how you dodged/ignored certain points there.

[uctriton00]

I don't even have a town read on you, at this rate I'm still annoyed at how you couldn't just answer a case right away, which could very well still be scummy behavior

Your reply just now, It's like you're keeping score. "Sweet, I out town-performed him" as if that was the goal of the exchange for you.

[uctriton00]

In fact I'm starting to question that.

You seem content in saying that "you look more town than me". What's the goal of townies in mafia scum? Finding scum. What's the goal of scum? Looking townie.

There's a paradigm shift that's important to think about and now I'm curious.

[Shinobi]

I was cracking a joke.

Really you guys.

[uctriton00]

Nice defense there, ironic because I told a joke a few minutes earlier

What troubles me is that in my most recent game, kibbles' scum strategy was to mirror me logically and use most of my same language, to try to endear me. Unfortunately the town derped so hard and we died.