In post 130, TellTaleHeart wrote:What, you think you're going to hurt my feelings if you FoS me? You're not.
All the reasons you just said are easily faked by scum players worth their weight in salt, especially with join dates like Wisdom's and NM's. I guessing that by now, Wisdom and NM aren't complete scrubs as scum. I haven't been around long myself, but I've played a newbie game and the SE's were both scum and dropped plenty of fake "towntells." I'm not as impressed as you are.
As for philosophy, I approach the game differently than most people here do. I use much the same strategy in forum mafia as I do in RL mafia: I observe how the individual fits in (or doesn't fit in) with group dynamics and build reads on that. In RL mafia, I find that scum tend to play conservatively especially at the beginning of the day before they know what kind of town dynamics they should conform to. I certainly do as scum; it's the optimal play and they win most of the time by doing so. I'm not very good at the whole "question and answer" thing that seems to be popular on this site because 1) I don't think I ask the right questions and 2) I'm not competent enough to do anything with the answers I get. So, I watch other people's modes of logic and try to fill in blanks.
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Also, if others voted with me at this stage, I would be kind of suspicious since all the stuff I explained makes sense in my head, but I don't necessarily expect it to make sense to other people. Because it probably doesn't.
First of all, take a look at the beginning and the end of this post. You criticise me for making a point to not FoS you, but you preemptively cast suspicion on anyone who'd be willing to vote you for your reasoning? Regardless, my reads and commentary are for other people. My questions and arguments are for the people I'm talking to. And since I wasn't too confident about FoSing you, I wanted to make that clear.
Anyway, Wisdom and NM. I forgot to factcheck what you said about NM at first, but
his first post points out something no one did beforehand, and he didn't even 'telegraph a scumread on Victor, so I'm not sure what you're smoking with respect to that. Wisdom ALSO was the first one to point out something, that being Victor's behaviour (which in fact was what made me notice it in the first place). Furthermore, he called Victor's questions useless, not scummy; I was the one that called him scummy. Do an ISO on the 3 of them together.
So essentially, you're scumreading them for 1. doing the exact opposite of what you're saying (you said they scumread without providing reasoning, when in fact they're providing reasoning without scumreading), and 2. playing conservatively, which is entirely a playstyle. You know how much outlandish D1 scum we have on here? RL mafia may be a little louder than MS, but over half the players I see on here play pretty conservatively early on, including me.
IMO, your reasoning sucks, but we can agree to disagree on that. But what I pointed out at the beginning only amplifies my
FoS: You (TTH)
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But since I'm not totally sure on you, might as well ask: Whatcha think of Victor? Whatcha think of wgeurts?