Open 570: Making Friends and Enemies (Mafia Wins!)

[Wisdom]

If anyone is scum among those three, it's pea.

But I doubt it given you and shinobi are, so

[Wisdom]

although josh is back to making terrible posts and i have to resist the urge to rethink he might be scum

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Why am I scum again?

Still scum-vibes?

What's the plan? Lynch Shinobi because you perceive him as the easier lynch out of the two of us and then kill me N2?

That could work I guess. I would suspect you would come under heavy pressure though. Might want to have a rethink. You worked hard for that town-cred defending Dave.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hmm, I foiled their plan.

They gone into hiding.

[Wisdom]

yeah damnit we have to think of a better plan now

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I advise you to.

That plan is awful.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You still haven't explained why I'm scum...

[Wisdom]

I am long done explaining anything to you

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You have never explained why you think I'm scum.

Just scum-vibes.

Which is the second worst case I have ever seen.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Wisdom, let's play a game.

Let's pretend that myself, Shinobi and Heph are 3 confirmed townies.

Who are your next 3 scum-reads?

[Wisdom]

uct, pea, josh

[BlueBloodedToffee]

But you seem so sure that Pea and Josh are town now.

That seems a little strange that your reads would automatically revert back to where they started should your reads be wrong.

How confident are you that Pea and Josh are town?

[Wisdom]

Not very much, especially Pea, but they probably are

[Peabody]

BBT is an enigma to me, but I think I should read him just like I would any other player.

His convictions are so over the top, they look fake. He has probably scum read everyone on the player list before backing down.

My speculation is he is on the aggressive so he doesn't have to be on the defensive. I know when I was scum in previous games, it was easy to be aggressive to either 1) put the spotlight on me so everyone would end up town reading me late game or 2) people would ignore me all together. I think I was onto something when I said BBT wasn't entirely truthful in his case pushing in the beginning of the game. I was thrown off just because he looked townie. However, there's nothing strong to indicate he's town to me anymore.

I don't understand why he pushed dave

after he townread him

.

BBT continually finds convenient things to continue pushing a player. Pushing someone for unanswered questions or for using meta or for gut reads or for inactivity keeps his tunnels going. While some of these can indicate scum, it appears BBT pushes these things past the likelihood of a player being scum alignment.

And now he declared he won't play and will only sheep. He finally just now answered my question on Dave indirectly by listing his top three scum reads which do not include Dave.

Case in a nutshell:
Fake convictions (as evidenced by his continued questioning of Dave even after he spotted the town slip, as well as the earlier push I called out in 220.

Also, I can't believe his scum read on Wisdom. I just can't.

VOTE: BBT

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Come on scum!

Get your asses on my wagon!

Pea, I haven't scum-read Huntress. Or Heph. They might be the only two.

I'm suspicious of everyone though. But that's because I'm town.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I didn't scum-read Scripten either.

I also haven't strictly scum-read Uct. I suggested him as a good lynch based on Scripten's ISO, however, after reading him myself, I feel he is town.

[Peabody]

Come on scum!

Get your asses on my wagon!

It's things like these that make me think you're faking your convictions.

[Peabody]

What makes Uct town to you?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

His ISO.

[Peabody]

What in his iso?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

His posts.

I don't explain town-reads.

[Peabody]

But you expect others to?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I do.

It's dependent on the situation, of course.

[Peabody]

If you scumread nearly everyone on the playerlist and have very few townreads, I'm very interested to know your thought process in your town read. You're very difficult to read.

Additionally, when you push cases and then back off, i want to know -why- you back off. IE Dave.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I will back off ANY lynch if I have no support.

If I run out of scum-reads before I get support, I sheep.