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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:05 am

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The playing field is level regardless of which format you use. It might be more difficult to fill a WR3 spot with the same calibre of player you would use in a flex spot, but that's not something that only applies to certain teams. If you ended up with no decent WR3 options on a bye week, it has nothing to do with an unfair format. We might as well just have a team full of flex spots if the complaint is that it's too hard to find a useful contributor at a certain position.
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:44 am

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I don't care about the promotion system or who i play against. as long as i have fun thats all that matters to me. And having no one to start is not fun

the real luck of who you draft and them doing well ends up deciding it as finding waiver wrs when you need someone to fill a spot is hard and usually bites you in the end

don't get me wrong, i am having fun, wouldn't have joined if i didn't think i would have fun with my scummer buds. My comments mostly result from a biased of what I'm used to.

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also locke you said over perform projection earlier, didn't you mean under perform?
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:09 am

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I guess these things are all relative. I agree with Flameaxe that the level of challenge for 3 WRs is good. You have some players to pick from but there aren't so many it feels too easy. I have been in many leagues (especially in baseball) where the choices are much, much worse than the 12-team, 3 WR setup, so I don't feel like it's that bad.

In that context, I meant overperform - you were saying that Yahoo's projections were consistently giving a number that was way too high for your team, and I was saying that I've seen plenty of teams overperform them too. My point is that basically people at ESPN, Yahoo etc. are trying to perform the impossible task of putting a single number on a player's performance for any given week. Even if you were to get the scoreline of an NFL game within a few points, which is pretty difficult in itself, what an individual player will do is based on so many factors that I don't ever expect them to get it correct. A single play can make a projection look completely wrong, especially if it's a touchdown. I think that from a statistical perspective, if you played exclusively by going off certain projections (and played for long enough), you would have more successful start/sit decisions than failures, which ultimately is what they are providing them for - to give owners some context for making start/sit decisions. However, the effect is not large enough for us to be able to notice it on a week-to-week basis and people don't think at the end of the season "well, I made 30 borderline calls based on the projections and 18 were right, so that worked out". Even though there is a large element of luck involved, we have different standards for success in fantasy football to what a professional sports gambler might have, for whom getting 60% of the calls right would be outstanding.
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:59 pm

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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:45 pm

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Percy Harvin got traded for a conditional pick? He had some bad games but I didn't think he was doing that bad.
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:06 pm

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I picked up Baldwin who I hope is the new #1
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:05 pm

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In post 743, PokerFace wrote:add in PPR (points per reception) and now TEs and WRs are back on the same level as the RBs


I disagree. I think it just changes the distribution of certain RBs. RBs like Giovani Bernard and Reggie Bush become ridiculous RB1's, and WR's are still behind them. It might make the average WR the same as the average RB, but the best RB's (which will now be the ones that catch passes as well) are still wayyyyy better than the best WRs.
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:06 pm

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In post 749, zoraster wrote:no. that would mess with the league promotion/relegation system that i think is valuable.


Also, so much this.

I'd rather have all flex than some flex and some 3WR. But all 3WR is best.
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:27 pm

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In post 754, Jahudo wrote:Percy Harvin got traded for a conditional pick? He had some bad games but I didn't think he was doing that bad.


Seattle will miss him but I bet Geno misses him even more this year.

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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:46 pm

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In post 758, LlamaFluff wrote:Seattle will miss him but I bet Geno misses him even more this year.


Oooooh shit.

Also, FLEX has been brought up to mith before and he has said no before. At this point I prefer no FLEX.
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:46 am

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yahoo thinks there's an 8% chance Arian Foster scores fewer than -3 points.
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:11 am

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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:32 am

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Two of those players being against Houston defense (which I have) and one of them on the decline (hopkins). I think I can still win? Which is sad cause my team is so banged up at this point.

Actually all my leagues are seriously hurting.
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:14 am

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I 0fered across all my leagues this week and had my worst score in 2 of my 3 leagues. Maybe even all 3. Would have to double check the yahoo one.

Eta: oh crap, I actually won yahoo.
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:41 pm

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In post 762, DeathNote wrote:Two of those players being against Houston defense (which I have) and one of them on the decline (hopkins). I think I can still win? Which is sad cause my team is so banged up at this point.

Actually all my leagues are seriously hurting.


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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:02 pm

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I thought you did that on purpose
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:14 pm

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In post 765, DeathNote wrote:I thought you did that on purpose


Nah that's just my go-to "Exactly As Planned" thing. Because TV Tropes.
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:38 pm

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How in the hell did I just beat the #1 team
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:49 pm

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So Antonio Brown just perfectly matched his projected points...

THE PROJECTIONS WERE RIGHT. THE SKY IS FALLING.
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:15 pm

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In post 767, Xalxe wrote:How in the hell did I just beat the #1 team


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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:36 pm

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ugh

i was sick this weekend and didn't even think to check my lineup here :\
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:56 am

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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:49 am

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In post 768, Wraith wrote:So Antonio Brown just perfectly matched his projected points...

THE PROJECTIONS WERE RIGHT. THE SKY IS FALLING.


yeah unfortunately I needed a TD from him to win my matchup (and not just a passing TD). Also sucks that I had enough points to win my matchup in my receivers I left on my bench this week.
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:58 am

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In post 770, xRECKONERx wrote:ugh

i was sick this weekend and didn't even think to check my lineup here :\

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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:11 am

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zoraster wrote:yahoo thinks there's an 8% chance Arian Foster scores fewer than -3 points.

this combined with how only yahoo gives projections in the decimals for defence and kickers (when its impossible for those 2 positions to have any decimals) is partly why I believe yahoo gives worst projections
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