Open 570: Making Friends and Enemies (Mafia Wins!)

[Nero Cain]

vote:shinobi

[Malakittens]

@mala. I can't tell the difference between hiding scum and hiding masons. They both have the same informed minority features. I'd say this game is like multiball, but one of the scum teams win with the town.

if you are town you shouldn't even be hunting for the masons at all. I can understand actively trying to make sure not to wagon them is a thing, but it's annoying and makes you go crazy. It's exactly why I can't think of a mulitball game as multiball because if I hunt for Mafia Team X and Mafia Team Y, I doubt every single one of my reads and go crazy in thread. I'm always the worst player in a multiball game. So just don't go looking for masons even if you think it might be a good thing to try and avoid them.

[Shinobi]

What is with the groups of dinguses trying to kill me for next to nothing this game.

I don't get it.

@Mala: I stopped pretending I knew what was going on and I'm looking for someone to sheep. You look sheepable.

[beastcharizard]

Vote Count

Josh_B(2): Shinobi, ucitron00,
Shinobi(2): Josh_B, Nero Cain
BlueBloodedToffee(2): goodmorning, Peabody
Peabody(2): BlueBloodedToffee, Malakittens
ucitron00(1): Huntress

Not voting(2):davesaz, Aegor
With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-10-27 20:00:00)

[Malakittens]

Eh I'm probably the last person you want to sheep atm.

[Shinobi]

Eh I'm probably the last person you want to sheep atm.

I'm sure every single person in the game is willing to say this at this point.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

@

Nero

- That's my case on Pea yeah.

I don't think many people have paid attention to it though. Unless they're waiting for Pea to respond first.

[Josh_B]

What is with the groups of dinguses trying to kill me for next to nothing this game.

I don't get it.

@Mala: I stopped pretending I knew what was going on and I'm looking for someone to sheep. You look sheepable.

You've had like 3 votes on you MAX. I think you're over exaggerating.

[Huntress]

nope. I know Josh is misreading like crazy so maybe he's wrong about Wisdom saying that he knows that I was town but lets pretend that Josh is telling the truth (and not misreading) and Wisdom had said that he knew I was town. Why do you think town would say that?

Wisdom tends to be very definite in his reads, until he does a 180 degree turn on them, so it's quite possible he said that as town (no, I haven't checked). I don't think that in his case it's a scum tell.

Yeah. I'm not as comfortable with the Uct lynch as I was days ago. You shouldn't be either.

What have I missed? I've just been all through his ISO again and I'm not seeing it. Unless it's something from his meta, which I still haven't got round to looking at yet.

Unless they're waiting for Pea to respond first.

This. But his inconsistencies are among the things that got him on my scumlist. By the way, I think your first link should be to 378, not 328.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You're right Huntress, my bad.

@Mod - Dave and Uct need prodding.

[davesaz]

Dave needs to see some posts by a replacement.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

@BBT what confuses me is that the scum reads from the various people

seem

to form several cycles, like a->b->c->d->a.
I'm going to have to really focus and work out what it really is. But it's late at night and I can't take the necessary time right now.

Looking forward to the elaboration on this as well.

Dave needs to elaborate on this and actually do what he said he was going to.

[davesaz]

Because Metal Sonic gave me a headache to read at all, and then Wisdom did that big 180, and several other people keep shifting around (don't remember which ones bother me the most) so my read on pretty much the whole game is shot to hell right now.

[davesaz]

And yes, I agree that I need to do that.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You're being vague Dave. Who else bothered you, you're here now, put some time and effort into this game because I'm not seeing much from you.

[davesaz]

I have to read it again to even know that. Are you having difficulty comprehending my words?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

If someone was legit bothering you, you wouldn't need to read, you would already know who you thought was scum or who you wanted to question.

You said you needed to read it a full two days ago.

Are you having difficulty reading?

[Shinobi]

Stop taking potshots at each other pls. This game is difficult enough as is.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You don't find Dave's lack of effort concerning?

[Shinobi]

Effort isn't alignment indicative.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Ok.

Shall we all sit here and say we'll do things but never actually get round to doing them?

Yeah, let's do that. We'll figure this game out for sure doing that.

[Shinobi]

And I don't want to start berating people for not trying hard enough anyway.

If he doesn't play, he's probably going to get lynched at some point for doing nothing. But that's besides the point right now because I don't see him as one of my prime lynch targets for today.

[Shinobi]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Peabody

This is probably going to happen. We're 4 days out so it's about time we coalesce and stop dicking around. Let's go.

[davesaz]

Let's revisit this post.

I have Mala, GM, and Davesaz as town.
Peabody is town, but I'm less sure.

That leaves BBT and Shinobi claiming to know that each other is town, but claiming to not be masons.
And that Leaves
Wisdom/MS and Nero/heph claiming that each other is town.

I'm definitely thinking that one group is scum. Are they scum or are they masons? or are neither of them scum, and neither of them masons.
It's like it's multiball only one team is town and one team is scum.

Without getting into masons again, I have a big question about your comment that the Wisdom/MS and Nero/heph slots are claiming each other as town. Can you point to the places where these slots actually said that, in a definite way? Not just a read between the lines joking around type incident, but where they actually meant it?

[beastcharizard]

Prodded Ucitron