Newbie 1544 - Shakespeare Mafia: GAME OVER!

Luca Blight · Post Post #625 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:26 pm

In post 621, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 620, Luca Blight wrote:Doesn't pointing out your own apparent 'townie' behaviour render it meaningless, as you clearly could have done this to use as reasoning for why you are town later in the game, because you were aware of doing it at the time?

Whereas I had none of this pre-planning, and just gave my genuine thoughts having skimmed through.

No.

If 'hard reading viable lynch options' (what makes one of those 2-3 pages in, anyway?) is more reason to make you appear town later in the game, and you are aware of this, then surely it is something you would do as scum, which discredits the argument you have just made?

fferyllt · Post Post #626 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:26 pm

Vote Count 1.11

I grant you, friends, if that you should fright the
ladies out of their wits, they would have no more
discretion but to hang us: but I will aggravate my
voice so that I will roar you as gently as any
sucking dove; I will roar you an 'twere any
nightingale.

aphix

(4): Klingoncelt, WBOCampfire1104, Aneninen, House

Luca Blight

(2): Nachomamma8, Shinobi

House

(1): aphix

WBOCampfire1104

(1): Evil Regals

Not Voting

(1): Luca Blight

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline: October 28, Midnight Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2014-10-28 21:00:00)

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House · Post Post #627 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:28 pm

In post 624, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 622, House wrote:No aphix. I am not. Your pissing match with Klingon is anti-town as fuck. Such things are to be expected from newbies, but you are an SE pulling the same shit.

This is policy lynch reasoning again.

Nope, just an added bonus.

I don't feel the need to repeat the same thing over and over just because it is ignored or glossed over.

Luca Blight · Post Post #628 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:28 pm

In post 625, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 621, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 620, Luca Blight wrote:Doesn't pointing out your own apparent 'townie' behaviour render it meaningless, as you clearly could have done this to use as reasoning for why you are town later in the game, because you were aware of doing it at the time?

Whereas I had none of this pre-planning, and just gave my genuine thoughts having skimmed through.

No.

If 'hard reading viable lynch options' (what makes one of those 2-3 pages in, anyway?) is more reason to make you appear town later in the game, and you are aware of this, then surely it is something you would do as scum, which discredits the argument you have just made?

Btw, some meta shit here.

I remember in my very first game on this site, where Nacho was mafia and I was town, I was seemingly lynch-bait on day one and Nacho 'hard-read' me as town then, which makes me suspicious that he is now using that as a reason for him being town now.

aphix · Post Post #629 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:29 pm

In post 622, House wrote:
In post 616, aphix wrote:
pedit: No house. You are wrong. Period.

No aphix. I am not. Your pissing match with Klingon is anti-town as fuck. Such things are to be expected from newbies, but you are an SE pulling the same shit.

Your right. Shit flinging to a lynch with no supporting evidence is totally the okay thing to do.

Fuck off. It's not a pissing much. It's me being tired of shit plays. Then HOUSE you further supporting it as a me versus a newbie when that newbie has as much game experience as I do is pretty shit as well. Go back to you god forsaken corner of the internet you fucktwad.

I've provided relevant reasons why klingons play is scummy. Noone has even tried discussing them with me. Instead players I have scum reads on are just personally attacking me. Not even the reads. I have a very valid reason to be fucking pissed and tired of this game. I'm playing it. Many of you arent.

House, you are just like klingon. It's only repeating if you actually said something in the first place.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #630 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:30 pm

In post 625, Luca Blight wrote:If 'hard reading viable lynch options' (what makes one of those 2-3 pages in, anyway?) is more reason to make you appear town later in the game, and you are aware of this, then surely it is something you would do as scum, which discredits the argument you have just made?

If the argument I just made was "this is why I'm town", then it would.
That's not the argument I just made.

Shinobi · Post Post #631 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:31 pm

Mala, where did you go?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #632 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:32 pm

In post 628, Luca Blight wrote:Btw, some meta shit here.

I remember in my very first game on this site, where Nacho was mafia and I was town, I was seemingly lynch-bait on day one and Nacho 'hard-read' me as town then, which makes me suspicious that he is now using that as a reason for him being town now.

This is the towniest thing that you've said all day.

Luca Blight · Post Post #633 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:33 pm

In post 630, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 625, Luca Blight wrote:If 'hard reading viable lynch options' (what makes one of those 2-3 pages in, anyway?) is more reason to make you appear town later in the game, and you are aware of this, then surely it is something you would do as scum, which discredits the argument you have just made?

If the argument I just made was "this is why I'm town", then it would.

That's not the argument I just made
.

Yes it was.

I asked why I was scummy and you weren't when we basically did the same thing, and you used that as justification for why you weren't scummy, which is the same as a reason for why you are Town.

House · Post Post #634 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:34 pm

Disagreed. I like his defense.

Mostly just to piss off Shinobi.

Shinobi · Post Post #635 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:35 pm

lol

I have the feeling that you and I will grow to be great frenemies.

House · Post Post #636 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:36 pm

In post 635, Shinobi wrote:lol

I have the feeling that you and I will grow to be great frenemies.

Just call me the JR Ewing of MS.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #637 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:37 pm

In post 633, Luca Blight wrote:I asked why I was scummy and you weren't when we basically did the same thing, and you used that as justification for why you weren't scummy, which is the same as a reason for why you are Town.

I pointed out how what we did was different.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #638 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:38 pm

I don't like Mala disappearing after getting a chance to interact with me. Unfortunately, not a lot of opportunity to do anything with that today.

Vote: Anen

aphix · Post Post #639 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:40 pm

In post 633, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 630, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 625, Luca Blight wrote:If 'hard reading viable lynch options' (what makes one of those 2-3 pages in, anyway?) is more reason to make you appear town later in the game, and you are aware of this, then surely it is something you would do as scum, which discredits the argument you have just made?

If the argument I just made was "this is why I'm town", then it would.

That's not the argument I just made
.

Yes it was.

I asked why I was scummy and you weren't when we basically did the same thing, and you used that as justification for why you weren't scummy, which is the same as a reason for why you are Town.

See, I think Luca is getting confused about there being multiple different arguments and angles he's going here and trying to treat them as the same thing. The point being, is what you did, and what Nacho did are two different completely unrelated things. You can't compare them.

It is fishy to fence sit on the towns major wagons. Especially late in the game. Instead of having an actually stance on them or not. Is it scummy? IDK. I certainly know for me catch up and being in a game feel different and I get less solid opinions about a catch up then I do actively playing in a game. Just like spectating and playing are different things.

TLDR: Luca I think you are just running an argument longer then it needs to go, and I'm sure there is an official term, but I'm pretty sure this is just going to get into a circular logic that's worthless.

House · Post Post #640 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:41 pm

In post 638, Nachomamma8 wrote:I don't like Mala disappearing after getting a chance to interact with me. Unfortunately, not a lot of opportunity to do anything with that today.

Vote: Anen

What the...

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #641 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:42 pm

In post 639, aphix wrote:TLDR: Luca I think you are just running an argument longer then it needs to go, and I'm sure there is an official term, but I'm pretty sure this is just going to get into a circular logic that's worthless.

It already did.
The reaction as a whole was actually sort of town, though.
Is there still no chance of you voting on a wagon I'd actually like to see go through?

aphix · Post Post #642 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:42 pm

In post 640, House wrote:
In post 638, Nachomamma8 wrote:I don't like Mala disappearing after getting a chance to interact with me. Unfortunately, not a lot of opportunity to do anything with that today.

Vote: Anen

What the...

After telling me my house vote is pointless .....

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #643 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:42 pm

In post 640, House wrote:
In post 638, Nachomamma8 wrote:I don't like Mala disappearing after getting a chance to interact with me. Unfortunately, not a lot of opportunity to do anything with that today.

Vote: Anen

What the...

I changed my mind.
I know, terrifying because it seems you people can't drop a scumread once you develop one, but I changed my mind.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #644 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:43 pm

In post 642, aphix wrote:
In post 640, House wrote:
In post 638, Nachomamma8 wrote:I don't like Mala disappearing after getting a chance to interact with me. Unfortunately, not a lot of opportunity to do anything with that today.

Vote: Anen

What the...

After telling me my house vote is pointless .....

Pointless not because it couldn't conceivably go through, pointless because it's a shitty vote.

House · Post Post #645 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:44 pm

I officially do not like the Luca wagon and will be voting either Nacho or aphix today.

P-Edit: Not a fan of all this deadline vote hopping.

Luca Blight · Post Post #646 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:45 pm

@ Nacho, what we did was the same; leaving the possibility of voting someone open for later. It was the circumstances around it that you said were different, but all you did was town read two players, as did I in my list. You didn't scumread anyone as far as I can remember, did you? So what we did is not different at all, just happened at different times, as I entered the game later.

@Aphix, Nacho was attempting to start a counter wagon on me, and I was questioning what I deemed to be weak reasoning. What we did wasn't completely different, at all.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #647 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:46 pm

In post 646, Luca Blight wrote:@ Nacho, what we did was the same; leaving the possibility of voting someone open for later. It was the circumstances around it that you said were different, but all you did was town read two players, as did I in my list. You didn't scumread anyone as far as I can remember, did you? So what we did is not different at all, just happened at different times, as I entered the game later.

The difference you're not understanding is that who I townread and who you townread was significant.

Shinobi · Post Post #648 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:48 pm

I'm going to let this play out for a while.

Mostly because I have no idea what to do with myself.

House · Post Post #649 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:49 pm

In post 643, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 640, House wrote:
In post 638, Nachomamma8 wrote:I don't like Mala disappearing after getting a chance to interact with me. Unfortunately, not a lot of opportunity to do anything with that today.

Vote: Anen

What the...

I changed my mind.
I know, terrifying because it seems you people can't drop a scumread once you develop one, but I changed my mind.

What is with this "you people" business?

Are you prejudiced against newbs?!

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