Open 566: Murder on the Oriental Express (Game Over)

Titus · Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:40 am

The last two scum do not hard defend each other.

Stop. Use logic.

You are trying to force a square peg into a round hole rather than voting those who can be scum.

acryon · Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:43 am

In post 1925, Titus wrote:The last two scum do not hard defend each other.

Stop. Use logic.

You are trying to force a square peg into a round hole rather than voting those who can be scum.

This coming from the guy who continued to push the

completely

inane idea that I was faking the doc claim?

And what hard defending of the last two scum are you referring to? I never said they did that.

acryon · Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:45 am

*lady/person not guy

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:01 am

In post 1893, curiouskarmadog wrote:
titus, quick question. so you outed a doctor (who will be killed tonight) I get the lynched today. what is your plan for tomorrow?

??

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:01 am

got exactly 30 minutes right now...reading.

Riddleton · Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:45 am

VOTE: CKD

acryon · Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:46 am

In post 1930, Riddleton wrote:VOTE: CKD

How did you get from your last post to this one? Changes in reads are fine, but those with no clear progression should be explained.

Riddleton · Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:48 am

I can relate to GC's wavering between scrambles/CDB. I'm feeling the same way with CKD/GC so I can understand his mindset regarding that. Feeling slightly less paranoid about GC for now, so I'm switching back to my original suspicion.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:49 am

Amy I have asked you this twice now, please answer (today).

In post 1800, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 1796, Amy Farrah Fowler wrote:
In post 1763, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 1759, Amy Farrah Fowler wrote:Okay, not exactly a sheep, but I like your reasoning for farside.

what in
particular
did you like about his farside case? Why do you feel like farside is scum?

and...it should be noted, his vote is on me, not farside. Do you agree with his case on me? Why or why not?

Yeah, I realised his vote wasn't on farside back then so I amended that a bit.
Let's see... I liked the arguments provided and can reason through most of them. And they contain an adequate amount of detail. Plus farside hasn't come off as obvtown to me at any point.
I disagree with his case on you. I'm reading you as town. Your posts seem pretty genuine and not being on either of the scum wagons isn't that indicative of being scum.

but what in PARTICULAR do you like? what point really hit home in his case that made you think..."yeah, farside might be scum"?

- - -

Thoughts for what they are worth(review after my flip):

I don’t like GC’s case on farside. When I poked a giant hole in the case, his logic to keep on the push was flawed (or scum driven).

I also think it is interesting he tried to push that farside is scummy because of catch-posts/inactivity. Also if he was really trying catch farside in a scummy act, why didn’t he go check to see if farside posted in other threads her issues? When he posted this, that was the first thing I did to see if he was on to something. How is this a town action to NOT do this?

But here is the hiccup with voting GC, he entered the game and put a solid scrambles case together. As scum, he might have done this, but…man…that would have been so risky.
he did come off the wagon here for little reason.

In post 1561, Green Crayons wrote:

All of that said, just because I think there is a lot wrong with these posts, it reads like frustrated town. Having frustrated many a townsperson in my day, I'm throwing in the towel.

UNVOTE:

God dammit.

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@Riddle:
I'm all ears w/r/t CKD. Give me your pitch.

There is this though.

In post 1619, Green Crayons wrote:11 hours to lynch.

CDB L-2.
scrambles L-4.

In post 1623, Green Crayons wrote:I'm the worst.

UNVOTE: CDB
VOTE: scrambles

That makes CDB and scrambles L-3 each, if I'm not mistaken.

It doesn’t seem like a scum play.

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I still don’t like CDB’s case on Amy Day2…it was bad and felt forced. (also didn’t like farside’s involvement in the case)

I still don’t like that 3 people said they didn’t like Chaos/CDB and those 3 people are dead…wonder if CDB would still be around if they had lived?

At post 1626,

Scrambles has 5 votes, CDB 3…why wouldn’t scramble vote CDB”town” in hopes of a “mislynch” ESPECIALLY after saying he felt like CDB was scum

And then his last post.

In post 1639, scrambles wrote:
I dont like the flipflopping on the cdb wagon, so that might point to him being town.

Anyway gtg gl hf see u in hell

Going with my gut here.

Vote CDB.

Riddleton · Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:50 am

@mod: Can we have a votecount?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:51 am

I am either at -1 or -2

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:52 am

Green Crayons · Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:54 am

In post 1781, Green Crayons wrote:I'm phone posting, so can't link, but porochaz did the exact thing as scum in Oldie Mafia 2 (normal large).

Oh, I can link this now.

Oldie Mafia 2. The scum that was constantly doing catch up posts was porochaz. He had a legitimate excuse for his V/LA (funeral and other bad IRL experiences), but he kept doing posts like these: Post 444, Post 596, Post 676.

Also, I just got finished with a game where this happened again. Mini 1609. The scum that was constantly doing catch up posts was massive. Once again, a legitimate reason (no weeked access), but he kept doing posts like these: Post 2434, 2497, and Post 3336.

Once again, it's not so much that someone has V/LA, and then decides to make catch up posts. It's the heavy emphasis of using catch up posts, as it allows a person to look like they are providing the town with a lot of activity, but it isn't really all that substantive and useful for the town.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:55 am

hey amy, I see that you are on site, why dont you post in here real fast.

Green Crayons · Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:55 am

In post 1933, curiouskarmadog wrote:I don’t like GC’s case on farside. When I poked a giant hole in the case, his logic to keep on the push was flawed (or scum driven).

What was this?

acryon · Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:56 am

I think this last post from CKD is enlightening, and the last part is particularly damning IMO. Everyone should take a closer look. What CKD had to say coupled with what was going through my head as I read through votes and discussed with Titus mean this is coming back. He's a good player so he convinced me off of it last time, but I doubt he will this time.

VOTE: CDB

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:57 am

GC...lol.

would you characterize my posting in this game as a bunch of catch up post like poro?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:58 am

In post 1939, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1933, curiouskarmadog wrote:I don’t like GC’s case on farside. When I poked a giant hole in the case, his logic to keep on the push was flawed (or scum driven).

What was this?

the flaw?

Green Crayons · Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:59 am

I would say that there are a bunch of your posts that would fit the requirement. So, yeah, it's something I'm keeping in mind when assessing your likelihood of being scum.

Once again, activity which is alignment

indicative

is not alignment

confirmation

. I have never said that doing Action X means YOU ARE SCUM. It is just one of several factors to consider, and one of several reasons why I think farside is suspicious.

The fact that both you and farside have reduced my position to being "OH NO CATCH UP POSTS MUST BE SCUM GUYS 100%" is complete BS.

Green Crayons · Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:59 am

Yes, the flaw.

Green Crayons · Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:01 am

In post 1940, acryon wrote:I think this last post from CKD is enlightening, and the last part is particularly damning IMO. Everyone should take a closer look. What CKD had to say coupled with what was going through my head as I read through votes and discussed with Titus mean this is coming back. He's a good player so he convinced me off of it last time, but I doubt he will this time.

VOTE: CDB

Do you have the posts specifically where CDB previously discussed this point CKD is currently making w/r/t scrambles?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:01 am

In post 1943, Green Crayons wrote:
The fact that both you and farside have reduced my position to being "OH NO CATCH UP POSTS MUST BE SCUM GUYS 100%" is complete BS.

that is what it is coming off as.

why didnt you go check to see if farside had issues posting in other threads?

also, after my flip, will you adjust your belief in this?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:02 am

In post 1945, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1940, acryon wrote:I think this last post from CKD is enlightening, and the last part is particularly damning IMO. Everyone should take a closer look. What CKD had to say coupled with what was going through my head as I read through votes and discussed with Titus mean this is coming back. He's a good player so he convinced me off of it last time, but I doubt he will this time.

VOTE: CDB

Do you have the posts specifically where CDB previously discussed this point CKD is currently making w/r/t scrambles?

which point? post number.

acryon · Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:03 am

In post 1945, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1940, acryon wrote:I think this last post from CKD is enlightening, and the last part is particularly damning IMO. Everyone should take a closer look. What CKD had to say coupled with what was going through my head as I read through votes and discussed with Titus mean this is coming back. He's a good player so he convinced me off of it last time, but I doubt he will this time.

VOTE: CDB

Do you have the posts specifically where CDB previously discussed this point CKD is currently making w/r/t scrambles?

What posts are you asking for? Why would you ask me for the posts if it was CKD's point?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:04 am

In post 1944, Green Crayons wrote:Yes, the flaw.

running out of time, I will dig it up again.

but is it a pride reason you are asking? I mean, you think I am scum right? arent I just trying to discredit you?