Newbie 1546: Binary Trolls (Game Over!)

[VictorDeAngelo]

@Nether

- How do you feel about the fact I skipped over your self-ISO?

@BlueBloodedToffee

- Are you saying the only reason to offer reads is simply show your thought process and help other see how townie you are?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm saying you can state you're town-reading someone, but stating why is pointless.

I'm saying if you scum-read someone, you need to be able to explain why because, ultimately, you're trying to get them lynched.

[VictorDeAngelo]

Why is it pointless?

You think Shiro is town, I clearly disagree, what methods do you intend to use to try and persuade me over to your side?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I intend to tell you why your scum-read on Shiro is wrong when you tell me why you're scum-reading her.

[Netherspite]

@Nether

- How do you feel about the fact I skipped over your self-ISO?

I'm expecting you to revisit it once you know what it was posted for.
Won't you?

[Netherspite]

I intend to tell you why your scum-read on Shiro is wrong when you tell me why you're scum-reading her.

How about telling me why my scum-read on Shiro is wrong? I've explained why I scum read him.

[VictorDeAngelo]

I have told you why. Proceed to tell me why I'm wrong.

PEdit: Nether, I won't revisit it before the deadline (if there's anything important then you'll have to repost it) but perhaps I will if it becomes relevent in later days. We will just have to wait and see.

[VictorDeAngelo]

First bit at

@BlueBloodedToffee

in case it wasn't clear.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Where did you explain your scum-read?

[Bulbazak]

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Vote Count

TGGC (0):
Netherspite (3): TGGC, Toolenduso, BlueBloodedToffee
Toolenduso (0):
JohnnyFarrar (0):
Shiro (3): Netherspite, JohnnyFarrar, VictorDeAngelo
BlueBloodedToffee (1): Luca Blight
Luca Blight (0):
VictorDeAngelo (0):
GuyInFreezer (0):

Not Voting (2): GuyInFreezer, Shiro

It is day 1. With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends on Sunday, November 2 at 11:30pm EST. Countdown: (expired on 2014-11-02 23:30:00).

[Netherspite]

@VictorDeAngelo

That makes sense as well if you tend to town read me. There is way more activity now and you try to spend the remaining time until deadline looking at your scum reads.

Also, I strongly town read you at this point because of your vote (if you would be scum it would make more sense joining my wagon over Shiro's wagon). So I don't really look for some hidden intentions behind you skipping my explanation of my questions.
However, I think I'll quote most important findings I mentioned in that post a bit later FYI (going AFK a bit now).

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Where did you explain your scum-read?

That's to both VDA and Nether for clarification.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Explain your townread. Not doing so is withholding potentially important information from the town. It helps us read you and better read the person you're town reading.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm not withholding any information. I told you I'm town-reading Shiro.

Scum-reads are important. Not town-reads.

[JohnnyFarrar]

That is the most violently wrong thing anyone has ever said to me in this game. I'm uncontrollably vomiting.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Seriously. Send help.

[Luca Blight]

I'm not withholding any information. I told you I'm town-reading Shiro.

Scum-reads are important. Not town-reads.

That's certainly the case when you're mafia, however when you're town you don't have the answers in front of you, so Town reads are equally important.

Claiming Shiro is 'obv Town' is scummy because I have seen nothing to suggest this is the case, and you are refusing to explain it. The only players Shiro could appear 'obv Town' to are the mafia, who already know her alignment.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

That is the most violently wrong thing anyone has ever said to me in this game. I'm uncontrollably vomiting.

I actually laughed at this. Like, out loud. Well done.

I'm not withholding any information. I told you I'm town-reading Shiro.

Scum-reads are important. Not town-reads.

That's certainly the case when you're mafia, however when you're town you don't have the answers in front of you, so Town reads are equally important.

Claiming Shiro is 'obv Town' is scummy because I have seen nothing to suggest this is the case, and you are refusing to explain it. The only players Shiro could appear 'obv Town' to are the mafia, who already know her alignment.

OK, you ready?

Shiro is town because; she's asking questions, she's scum-hunting, her wagon looks scummy, I'm getting town-vibes from her posts...have you realized what I'm doing yet?

I'm not explaining town-reads. End of.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Asking questions can be done from either alignment.

She's NOT scum hunting.

Bad wagons have little to do with the person being wagoned.

Vibes are bullshit.

Play better.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hi Johnny,

Why is Shiro scum?

[Netherspite]

@BlueBloodedToffee

How about his wagon is there partially because he was

not

scumhunting?
Please provide example of said scumhunting you see.

[JohnnyFarrar]

So here's how this goes. I list a reason, you say why you don't like that reason. Great. awesome. Absence of scumminess does not equal towniness though so even if you debunk my reason, that still doesn't tell me why she's town.

So in short: I asked you first.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm not town-reading Shiro for the reasons I just stated.

So, there's that.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Good. Tell us the actual reason because your fake ones were shit.

[Luca Blight]

Toffee's behaviour doesn't make sense from a Town perspective. Why would a Townie be so reluctant to give reasons for an 'obv town' read, and then subsequently give false reasons?

It doesn't make sense.