NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)

[reinoe]

Umm no. You're completely discounting the possibility of a Psyche-Marquis team. They'd have no incentive to kill one another.

So you're saying there's no SK? Cuz if there they have a 100% of killing scum between Marquis/Psyche. SK definitely wants to kill scum.

Wow that post is nasty.

Your argument is that there is no SK interested in killing between Marquis/Psyche. If there is a SK then they have even more incentive to ensure that Marquis/Psyche are not a scum buddy team.

[Pine]

You have a point regarding the SK, I suppose that didn't occur to me when I fired off a phone post.

You do not have a point in practically forcing us into a no lynch

[reinoe]

~ Deadline expires 11/02/14, @2PM Central.

Well that's no-lynch.

[Marquis]

yeah shadow is scum.

and I'm with reinoe on this. 7 players left and I'm not hammering obvtown.

[Psyche]

You guys forgot to ask for a claim, too.

[reinoe]

I will say that this game should be reviewed for analysis in a multitude of ways.

Scum reluctance to kill PR's creating WIFOM, town fake claiming+fake claimed masons, when and when not to counterclaim, what to do about scummy looking town players, Day 1 lynch being impossible to analyze due to misunderstood votecounts, relatively strange nightkill choices by scum, and when should you if ever, force a no-lynch.


Regardless of the outcome I'll probably nominate this game for something in the scummies.

[Marquis]

yeah these nightkill choices are really weird :/
mostly notsci and texcat.
i just want to die.

[Skybird]

I really don't know what to make of this game. None of it makes sense. Marquis, I know you are claiming to be playing to your wincon, but the fake mason claim just doesn't make any sense at all. Maybe I just haven't played in enough games yet, but I haven't seen anyone fake a claim like that yet.

[Pine]

If Town loses because of this no-lynch, blame falls squarely on reinoe (unless he's Godfather, then bravo). There's a chance that Psyche is a mislynch, but choosing to allow a no lynch is downright anti-Town

[Wake1]

Good evening guys.

I'll read through the thread, provide a VC, and see what's up.

[Wake1]

Wait a minute.

Checking the deadline again.

[Wake1]

Deadline's supposed to be 11/9/14.

My apologies, guys. One week added.

[reinoe]

If Town loses because of this no-lynch, blame falls squarely on reinoe (unless he's Godfather, then bravo). There's a chance that Psyche is a mislynch, but choosing to allow a no lynch is downright anti-Town

I accept full responsibility for my actions because I've already admitted that this is the worst game I've ever played considering that I've been on every lynch this game. However if town thinks a no-lynch is worse than a mislynch then I'll argue against that point. I'll also argue that a loss or win doesn't come down to one player except under incredible circumstances.

at the less than subtle implication of Godfather.

[House]

Deadline's supposed to be 11/9/14.

My apologies, guys. One week added.

Awesome!

[reinoe]

VOTE: Pine

I just placed a naked vote on Pine. Discuss.

[House]

You guys forgot to ask for a claim, too.

K. Claim, please.

[Marquis]

put it on shadow.

[House]

VOTE: Pine

I just placed a naked vote on Pine. Discuss.

Considering your admitted terribad play, I don't see anything to discuss.

When you stop undermining yourself and get your head back in the game, get back to me.

[House]

All that being said, that leaves both Marquis and Psyche in my scum pile, and I'm willing to vote either.

I actually like my Marquis vote based on the post I made the other day. Does anyone else have any thoughts on that, btw?

this is also probably the strongest scumtell I know of
does anyone who cares (and actually knows) about mafia theory want to help put it in words for me

Ever find the words? I've been hoping this would be clarified.

[reinoe]

You guys forgot to ask for a claim, too.

K. Claim, please.

This is awful.

[House]

You guys forgot to ask for a claim, too.

K. Claim, please.

This is awful.

Like you are one to criticize anybody.

[reinoe]

You guys forgot to ask for a claim, too.

K. Claim, please.

This is awful.

Like you are one to criticize anybody.

Actually, I'm down with a massclaim. Because fuck it why not.

[House]

You guys forgot to ask for a claim, too.

K. Claim, please.

This is awful.

Like you are one to criticize anybody.

Actually, I'm down with a massclaim. Because fuck it why not.

Never done one, care to describe it?

[reinoe]

People claim their role. Then popcorn to another player. Everyone participates. Not claiming is generally considered a scum claim.

[House]

If town is down, I am.

Not interested in it unless there is a consensus, though