Open 566: Murder on the Oriental Express (Game Over)

[Riddleton]

Acryon

, can you spill out your thoughts and reads before the end of the day? Who would you say is scum, if CKD flips town?

[curiouskarmadog]

THEREFORE IF YOU'RE TOWN, TAKING OFF YOUR CONFIRMATION-BIAS GOGGLES WOULD BE HELPFUL ADVICE

so why would you tell someone who you want to see hang (ie you are voting) to do this? Why give helpful advice to them?

[curiouskarmadog]

I have to leave for the day in about 10 minutes.

[Riddleton]

that should be obvious CKD

[Riddleton]

@your first post

[Riddleton]

@the second post: I didn't see that. I hope he returns as he's going to be the NK tonight if you flip town... which sucks if he doesn't have time to get his final thoughts out

[ChannelDelibird]

I really can't make it simpler than this, CKD.

Especially

if I thought I had more time than I did, why wouldn't I want somebody who I could still quite plausibly see as town to show signs of reconsidering and making sure that they were on the right track? How many times do I have to explain that the choice between you and Amy is essentially arbitrary to me before you accept that I'm not protraying you as Beelzebub incarnate?

[curiouskarmadog]

yeah that would suck.

Don't let him off of this. He may just dodge (although now that I am posting this he probably won't), but if he does come back with something, focus on what actually happened and not what he tries to tell you. This play from him makes zero sense unless he is scum, and it points perfectly to a set-up to win the game as scum. I really hope I come back in the morning to a CDB lynch and a town victory. Please help make that happen.

[Green Crayons]

It really boggles my mind that Beli's really shitty push against farside has made her immune from suspicion from most of the town, even as she has become essentially a nonentity surpassing even Amy in this game.

[Green Crayons]

I think scum wants me to get to lylo. i really do. it will be a slam dunk win then.

keeping vote on CDB.

Sure, that must have been why I tried to get you lynched Today while also making it clear that I want you and Amy to be the next to die in no particular order, leaving precisely none of you at LyLo.

I've switched to Amy because people who I think are town like acryon and GC are insistent on thinking that you are town so your wagon seems less likely to go through at the moment.

Could you explain this a bit further, considering the most-votes-absent-majority rule?

[ChannelDelibird]

Could you explain this a bit further, considering the most-votes-absent-majority rule?

Forgive the stupidity but it's late and I don't know what you mean.

[farside22]

It really boggles my mind that Beli's really shitty push against farside has made her immune from suspicion from most of the town, even as she has become essentially a nonentity surpassing even Amy in this game.

I'm going to just put you on ignore at this point.
It seems your okay with Amy's non expressive behavoir during the scrambles lynch, but when I state a v/la during most of this day it's scummy.
Your double standards on players is very much a peeve.


That said I think CKD is town. I would prefer an amy lynch but I see mr. Double standard has a say on this that surpasses my feelings.

Riddle: can you explain to me why amy isn't considered scum in your view?

CKD: I don't see cbd trying to keep you for lylo. I think there is 9 players (I lost track between job training and brain too fried to look back). If that is correct I think scum need 3 mislynches to win. If it's you and amy only that does not account for lylo.

[Green Crayons]

Could you explain this a bit further, considering the most-votes-absent-majority rule?

Forgive the stupidity but it's late and I don't know what you mean.

So long as CKD has the most votes, even if it's only three, then he's the lynch for today.

Why switch to Amy? You don't need acryon's or my vote to have CKD lynched.

[Green Crayons]

I'm going to just put you on ignore at this point.
It seems your okay with Amy's non expressive behavoir during the scrambles lynch, but when I state a v/la during most of this day it's scummy.
Your double standards on players is very much a peeve.

You aren't scummy for being V/LA. Keep pounding that drum.

Amy is not excused for her own lurk behavior. No double standard. Mr. Mean GC is not playing favorites.

[ChannelDelibird]

So long as CKD has the most votes, even if it's only three, then he's the lynch for today.

Why switch to Amy? You don't need acryon's or my vote to have CKD lynched.

Because it turns out I didn't properly read the rules and expected what I have come to know as the standard practice (no majority at deadline = no lynch).

[curiouskarmadog]

not only did you not read the rules, but you havent read the thread because it has been fucking discussed numerous times.

[curiouskarmadog]

also

unvote.

just feel like scum would know this..

unles of course he is pretending he doesnt know this.

but whatever.

[ChannelDelibird]

I've told you that I've had to skim things.

[ChannelDelibird]

I'm going to bed in a few minutes. Still willing to move vote to Amy if more would prefer that but, honestly, I think the time for CKD to reconsider his vote on me was before it would count as a last-minute attempt to not get lynched.

[curiouskarmadog]

I'm going to bed in a few minutes. Still willing to move vote to Amy if more would prefer that but, honestly, I think the time for CKD to reconsider his vote on me was before it would count as a last-minute attempt to not get lynched.

yeah...I also didnt vote amy and farside to save myself (when I could) to also....not get lynched...

[Green Crayons]

CDB, you're telling me that you didn't read any of the multiple conversations this thread has had about the most-votes lynching rules?

Like, it started at the very beginning of this game day.

[Green Crayons]

Sigh.


After today, especially late game day, CKD looks pretty town. I guess his play today could be a gambit -- "let me throw myself upon the mercy of the town with plenty of LYNCH ME's" -- but I really don't think so. Couple that with

how

he went about not voting Beli (hard defense) and scrambles (actually appeared to inquire into the merits of a scrambles vote, even after scrambles was locked into the lynch via the most-votes-absent-majority rule), I think CKD is town.

I also think CDB looks lean town. Scum wouldn't bank on "forgetting" a pretty vital rule to excuse play. His reasons for unvoting CKD to vote Amy don't strike me as suspicious -- I myself have said that I have X-number of lynch candidates, and I don't particularly care what order they get lynched in. scrambles refusal to vote CDB is weird, and not something I'm just forgetting. But that alone isn't going to really do it for me.

[Green Crayons]

That leaves me with farside and Amy.

Nobody appears willing to join Amy and I on farside. Fine. UNVOTE: farside, VOTE: Amy. She really has become the lurker queen, and has failed to really participate at all this game day. I wouldn't want her at LYLO because of that, as it would be a serious knock against her towniness.

[ChannelDelibird]

Ah, fuck, CKD's right, I owe him enough credit as a player that he'd be voting for somebody right now if he were scum.

UNVOTE: CKD
VOTE: Amy

GC: Yup. I do not recall that discussion and I've just skimmed the first couple of pages of Today to see if I saw any such discussion and did not. I've been less thorough in some of my reading Today because of the low pressure of the current game state and my confidence in other reads (so I've seen conclusions of long posts and not engaged with them much beyond that because the conclusions are dumb, e.g. farside case). My engagement for the Day has been in the Day 1 reread, then the acryon stuff, which put me off as stated before when he claimed.

[curiouskarmadog]

(put this in the gambit category)

as a appreciate this last minute wagon/save....

If Amy flips town....thinking about tomorrow pains me.

if she flips scum, then I have truly done jack shit in this game.