Newbie 1546: Binary Trolls (Game Over!)

[Netherspite]

No matter how hard you try, I won't believe you don't realize that listing both possible partner's roles in

real

role PM is useless and no one would do that.
You aren't newbie.
You know that you're saying BS.

By the way, according to rules, quoting role PMs is prohibited...

[VictorDeAngelo]

Mafia receives role PMs listed in the beginning of this topic.
Mafia Goon's PM contains exact role of his partner.

Everyone pls look:

You are a Mafia Goon, along with your partner,

who is a Mafia Goon/Roleblocker

.

Your goal is to take over the town. Once per night, you may send me a PM with the name of a person you wish to night kill. You may also perform the kill in your PT. During the night and pre-game, you may talk with your partners here.

You win when you make up a majority of the town.

Best of luck.

From this PM you cannot know the setup. Vote Netherspite, he is _SCUM_.

PEdit: Quoting actual Role PMs is not allowed, but the ones in post 0 are OK. Essentially as long as a mod didn't PM it to you your ok.

[VictorDeAngelo]

BTW the part that's big and red is the bit that Nether was referring to. I just got his message in a preview and thought I should clear that up like a good SE.

[Netherspite]

Here is the explanation on why role PM sent to Mafia Goon contains exact role.

If Mafia Goon should not know exact role of his partner then why does the partner's role clause exist at all in the role PM?
The only reason for it to be there is to tell you what role your partner has. And both roles are listed in the example only because there are two possibilities and it's stupid to list both possible role PMs if they differ only by partner's role.

Stop trying to look like retarded townie, it won't work.

[Netherspite]

Thanks, VDA, you're right, quoting that post is not prohibited.

[Bulbazak]

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Vote Count

TGGC (3): VictorDeAngelo, Netherspite, Luca Blight

L-1

Netherspite (1): TGGC
Toolenduso (0):
BlueBloodedToffee (0):
Luca Blight (0):
VictorDeAngelo (1): Toolenduso
Goodmorning (0):

Not Voting (2): BlueBloodedToffee, Goodmorning

It is day 2. With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day ends on Wednesday, November 19 at 10:15pm EST. Countdown: (expired on 2014-11-19 22:15:00).

[TGGC]

No matter how hard you try, I won't believe you don't realize that listing both possible partner's roles in

real

role PM is useless and no one would do that.

Its not useless, it tells you your partner is a or b. But its useless talking to you, because you are scum.

[Netherspite]

It would be useful if your partner could be a, b or c.
But everyone knows it's either a or b so stating it again is stupid.

[TGGC]

Ok, maybe you are right, that stating in the PM "your partner is A or B" does not give additional information. Still other PMs also contain those kind of "useless information", so I don't get why you can be so sure attacking someone unless you are scum covering your slip.

[TGGC]

And I am pretty sure stating something like "No one will ever do that." is almost always wrong.

[Netherspite]

* It's also useless to state it because scum has nightchat and they'd reveal their roles to each other.

* No, it's more like town caught you on your slip.

* When you were a Mafia Goon in previous games, did you really receive PMs stating role of your partner as "Mafia Goon/Roleblocker"?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Can't quite believe we're still trying to lynch someone who claimed Doc.

However, I am extremely dissatisfied with his answers and his play D2. I could easily see him being scum.

I would much rather try to find his buddy first, just in case he is actually the doc and is really bad at explaining his point of view.

I'm also asking that nobody hammer until GM has caught up. Interested to see what she has to say

[Netherspite]

I agree, we should wait for the GM to catch up and post.
Also I'd like to hear toolenduso's opinion on this matter.

[TGGC]

Yes, as VDA demonstrated, Mafia gets told their alignment in a thread, so that point in the PM is not needed. But did you know that before? I did not, because it did not happen in my scum game. But you never played a scum game before this one, did you?

What slip are you even talking about?

No I did not receive a PM like that, but I got the PM _exactly_ as stated in the opening post just with the filled in blank for the name.

[TGGC]

Netherspite, did you play games on this site with a different nick?

@BlueBloodedToffee: My point is simple: if I receive the PM I quoted, I would not know which setup we have.

[VictorDeAngelo]

Can't quite believe we're still trying to lynch someone who claimed Doc.

However, I am extremely dissatisfied with his answers and his play D2. I could easily see him being scum.

This couldn't remind me more of my last scum newbie game, where my buddy claimed doc and got lynched unCCed.

Anyway, I am more than happy to wait for more responses from others.

UNVOTE:

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You would have a better idea of the set-up depending on if your buddy is RB or not.

Who do you think is scum TGGC?

[Netherspite]

@TGGC

The PM you quoted also lists your ability to chat with your partner pre-game in private topic.
You still insist that Mafia Goon shouldn't know whether Mafia has RB in the game?
I don't believe you're that retarded. Please, stop your lies.
We're waiting for GM to catch up and for toolenduso to post his opinion.

[Netherspite]

@BlueBloodedToffee

He is insisting that Mafia Goon can receive the PM from the first post

without

exact partner's role filled (with "Mafia Goon/Roleblocker" part left as is).

[Luca Blight]

I think it's pretty obvious the Mafia Goon/Roleblocker in the example PM's is only so it doesn't give the set-up away, of course you know what your partner's role is. Hence why in the Roleblock example pm, it just says Goon, because that is already evident by the possible set-up grid.

TGGC is scum and Toffee is probably his partner.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Luca, stop linking me to TGGC.

You're trying to line me up as the next lynch.

[Netherspite]

Too early to make any conclusions about who is TGGC's partner.
Lets first wait for everyone's opinion on the matter.

[TGGC]

I think it's pretty obvious the Mafia Goon/Roleblocker in the example PM's is only so it doesn't give the set-up away

I agree with this part. But how do you _KNOW_, the mod sends a different PM? Give me an explanation how you can _KNOW_ that. It is impossible to _KNOW_ that. I don't see how you or Netherspite can _KNOW_ that without actually reading the PM. I do not think a townie could be so sure about that, so he would start attacking someone.

@BlueBloodedToffee:
I think its Netherspite and Luca Blight right now.

[Netherspite]

@TGGC

Common sense is enough to know that with 99% chance.
The fact you insist that it's wrong makes you obvious scum.

[Netherspite]

By the way, casting OMGUS votes after failing that bad does not help you much, really.