NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)

[Marquis]

The only thing I'm not totally sold on is shadow scum. He's

done*

a lit of scum hunting... unless you are saying he's sk, maybe?

I've also been re-reading, and while I'm not completely convinced that Psyche and Marquis are both town, I think I actually have a stronger scum read than either of them right now. I'm going to sheep reinoe for now, and will post reasons why shortly:

VOTE: Pine

"these are scumreads but i'll vote elsewhere"

All in all, there aren't many actual scummy sounding things, but there are enough things that are just off to make me think twice. Not to mention, even if Psyche and Marquis are both scum of some flavor, there's still a third one to find, and Pine is where I think it is right now.

"i have a lot of scumreads but i'll vote the third one instead of choosing between these two similar ones, one of which is my scumpartner"

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Psyche

Still thinking he's scum, and as the most likely lynch to occur I'll gladly jump back on the wagon.

slightly overexplained, easily seen as him justifying a bus

I still question Marquis' choice of fake-claiming mason and trying to ride it out until endgame, but his posts toDay have seemed town.

My feelings are still mostly similar to what I posted in 4857. I just have to figure out who between Skybird and Pine I feel is scummier and more likely to not be a mislynch.

"let me keep the lynch options wide open, let's say i have a lot of scumreads"

We have five people left, and two of them are claiming to have crumbed roles already. I'm having a hard time getting final reads right now, so I'm going to go with my gut at this point.

VOTE: Skybird

basically shaddowez has put himself in a position where he can justify voting practically anyone at any time. and no, it's not town indecision. it's scum survivalism and trying to blend in.

i'm really tired.

VOTE: shaddowez

i'm really tired and nothing else is happening.

[Skybird]

I agree with Marquis.

VOTE: shaddowez

[Pine]

Really concerned about Marquis!SK

He's the one the scumteam has been going after for forever

[Marquis]

chaining yourself to a fake mason claim as sk is probably the stupidest thing you could do and believe it or not i'm not a bad scum player

[House]

Single NK gives us a day to find the last scum/SK if we lynch correctly (which I think we are dead on), or we are boned unless they attack each other tonight (which would be awesome but not likely).

shaddowez being sk explains why I was reading him as town due to scum hunting and the apparent contradiction other players have of scum reading him due to PoE, so I am happy with my vote being here.

[Pine]

I'm at the tail end of an exhausting 75-80 hour work week, with oral surgery mixed in there just for giggles

I'm not totally sold on Shaddowez. For one thing, he's not defending himself as vigorously as I'd expect

Kind of suspecting House a bit right now

[House]

Bro, that is one of the dumbest posts you've made. Of course shaddowez is scum. Marquis and you both made excellent cases on him. But here you are waffling.

Get your head right.

[shaddowez]

I think I'm lynched already, but even so House is scum. I should've gone with my gut way back when when I thought Alina was scum.

I'm a 1-shot BP. There was no mafia kill last night, and all of a sudden House is insistent I'm scum/SK. Also, he was the only one outright opposed to massclaim.

I was still trying to search out the SK, which is why I didn't claim this earlier toDay. In case it matters,
VOTE: House

[Pine]

Hmm

That might be an SK fakeclaim. I could see House as our remaining mafiascum, having finally found SK, trying to get him lynched

Hmm

Not willing to abruptly hammer, but this is intent

[House]

Fine. I was hoping to have one more night of usefulness, but have it your way. We're too close to losing for me to keep my mouth shut anymore.

I am a bomb.

Post 4272 is my crumb, and I also crumbed my role in post 5056.

I

nterestingly enough, oka made it to L-1 pretty quick with reinoe's claim.

A

ctually didn't think votes would pile on so fast.

M

aybe we can get him lynched after all.

B

ut there's little doubt one claim or the other is fake.

O

f course, if I'm wrong about oka, it would have to be reinoe.

M

ust have a scummer between the two of them, though.

B

leh, not as certain as I initially was, but still happy with my vote.

B

ro, that is one of the dumbest posts you've made.

O

f course shaddowez is scum.

M

arquis and you both made excellent cases on him.

B

ut here you are waffling.

Get your head right.

That's why I've been pushing people so hard... trying to draw the NK.

[Marquis]

No, that's a fakeclaim you decided to only stick with and then crumb once you saw that people took reinoe's non-Normal role claim well. I don't believe that if you were a real bomb you wouldn't have crumbed earlier. And combined with looking through Alina's ISO for a crumb, which didn't occur, how I also noticed her suggesting repeatedly in multiple posts earlygame the idea that there's no SK... I don't have a townread on you anymore.

[Marquis]

I hope shaddowez doesn't flip town. That'd probably be the final nail in the coffin containing the part of me that can actually get a decent sense of reads in large games.

[Marquis]

I was hoping to have one more night of usefulness, but have it your way. We're too close to losing for me to keep my mouth shut anymore.

I am a bomb.

Also, this makes no sense and is not a town way to claim given that the lynch is already secured and we're all just waiting for Wake.

[House]

I was hoping to have one more night of usefulness, but have it your way. We're too close to losing for me to keep my mouth shut anymore.

I am a bomb.

Also, this makes no sense and is not a town way to claim given that the lynch is already secured and we're all just waiting for Wake.

Last I knew, he was at L-1.

About crumbing, it's the first game I've ever had to. I couldn't very well ask anyone how to crumb my role, so I had to figure it out.

[House]

Yosup, Marquis?

[Skybird]

I counted 3 votes for Shaddowez. I don't think Wake's post to start the day was correct. He had 6 alive and 4 to lynch. But I think there is only 5 of us left alive.

[House]

I counted 3 votes for Shaddowez. I don't think Wake's post to start the day was correct. He had 6 alive and 4 to lynch. But I think there is only 5 of us left alive.

Pine
shaddowez
Skybird
House
Marquis

You're right.

[House]

shaddowez, if you're not the SK, I hope he/she takes you out for your shitty play today.

[House]

Woo, memory= terribad.

Hope we got the SK, though.

[House]

Skybird & Marquis seem to be the odd players out, because I'm sold on Pine!town.

[Pine]

A lot will depend on flip here. I'm 100% on Marquis not being mafiascum, and I'm somewhat confident Skybird is not mafiascum.

Therefore, if Shaddowez flips SK, House gets the noose

If Shaddowez flips mafia, I'm a bit at square one

If Shaddowez flips Town...we're a little fucked. That'd put us 2:1:1, and only cross shots would keep Town out of Kingmaker position

Is is why I didn't want to rush

[House]

A lot will depend on flip here. I'm 100% on Marquis not being mafiascum, and I'm somewhat confident Skybird is not mafiascum.

Therefore, if Shaddowez flips SK, House gets the noose

If Shaddowez flips mafia, I'm a bit at square one

If Shaddowez flips Town...we're a little fucked. That'd put us 2:1:1, and only cross shots would keep Town out of Kingmaker position

Is is why I didn't want to rush

Don't be so quick to kill me unless you're campaigning for a scum or SK win.

[Pine]

Yes, I would be quick on you if we get a Shaddowez SK flip and I survive. Skybird and Marquis are not mafia

[House]

Yes, I would be quick on you if we get a Shaddowez SK flip and I survive. Skybird and Marquis are not mafia

You know,

if

I were scum, you'd be giving me every reason to NK you. And if shaddowez

is

town, you're throwing the game away because the SK would target elsewhere thinking scum!me would target you.

Smart play, Pine. Real smart.

[House]

Although, that play makes perfect sense as the SK setting up to mislynch for the win after killing the last mafia member tonight.

That strikes me as more along your kind of play, I just can't see you fucking up that hard as town.