You could be anyone II - Game Over

Kise · Post Post #3475 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:55 pm

There are 7 wagons..7 people you all find worth eliminating, and you want to get rid of the probable SK - who would otherwise thin the herd?

And how do you see the next phases going if there's a series of mislynches? Keep wasting time mislynching right, when the SK could have flipped these people for us?

House · Post Post #3476 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:58 pm

In post 3475, Kise wrote:There are 7 wagons..7 people you all find worth eliminating, and you want to get rid of the probable SK - who would otherwise thin the herd?

And how do you see the next phases going if there's a series of mislynches? Keep wasting time mislynching right, when the SK could have flipped these people for us?

You mean the sk that is currently voting for me?

That sk?

Pardon me if I don't buy into the whole "leash the sk" theory when she is trying to get me mislynched.

Kise · Post Post #3477 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:13 pm

Doubtful on the mislynch part, brother.

House · Post Post #3478 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:15 pm

In post 3477, Kise wrote:Doubtful on the mislynch part, brother.

Would you lynch Mollie when I flip town?

Ankamius · Post Post #3479 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:35 pm

It's seriously blowing my mind that lynching Mollie is something being this heavily considered.

Mafia's biggest problem is the SK. It doesn't matter how well you can set one person up to win in LyLo if they just get popped at random by the SK, and the wrong person dying can fuck over your entire team. It's in mafia's best interests to invest heavily into trying to wipe out the SK so they can have the stability to focus on winning against the town. The fact that the SK has popped two of them already only reinforces this.

What does town gain from the SK? More lynch chances. This can be mitigated by how many wagons are scum-driven (and how hard scum drive them) in order to fulfill mafia's agenda. We also give them a kill that they'd have to waste on the SK (or even multiple if the SK has a bulletproof that hasn't been used yet).

It makes little to no sense. This Mollie wagon is garbage and needs to be dismantled immediately.

Ankamius · Post Post #3480 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:36 pm

In post 3468, Garmr wrote:Tbh I think scum doesn't want to vote mollie today because they are afraid they will look scummy if they do. I would look at people pushing mollie being sk with out actually voting her.

This is setting red flags in my head with that in mind.

Ankamius · Post Post #3481 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:38 pm

In post 3329, jasonT1981 wrote:
pirate mollie
(3): Formerfish, Garmr, Nero Cain

This is the biggest the Mollie wagon ever got on Day 4. I'm going to be very shocked if all three of these guys are town. I don't see how it's even possible.

Ankamius · Post Post #3482 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:42 pm

Last note: This will naturally change eventually. 16 alive players is too early for this to be an imminent problem that has to be dealt with.

House · Post Post #3483 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:47 pm

In post 3477, Kise wrote:Doubtful on the mislynch part, brother.

Where is your vote then, brother?

pirate mollie · Post Post #3484 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:50 pm

can you link the game where titus was your IC?

Garmr · Post Post #3485 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:53 pm

It's also town interest to lynch sk since we don't win with it. Mollie is obvious sk people who are saying we can leash the sk whats the point as we only have like 1 or 2 scum left and a fuck load of townies.

RachMarie · Post Post #3486 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:55 pm

feeling pretty good about Ank he can go in my town pile He also brings up a good point for those who say Mollie is the SK lynch her with fire, At this stage in a large game, having the double deaths works against the scum. Why look so hard for the SK? He or she may be antitown, but so far has done a lot to help with finding scum. If we get all the maf lynched or they get NKed by the SK, that helps town at this point, later we can catch the SK.

House you are off base but that is ok you keep thinking I am scum whilst I think you are, sooner or later we will know who is right

Though why would you as town soft defend someone you think is scum, I have no clue on?

Anyone else you think is scum, or maybe some town reads?

RachMarie · Post Post #3487 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:56 pm

Garmr

And if you are wrong and she ends up flipping town? Who will you look at then?

Garmr · Post Post #3488 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:58 pm

anyone content on keeping the sk alive.

Ankamius · Post Post #3489 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:59 pm

In post 3485, Garmr wrote:It's also town interest to lynch sk since we don't win with it. Mollie is obvious sk people who are saying we can leash the sk whats the point as we only have like 1 or 2 scum left and a fuck load of townies.

You completely ignored the part of my post where I said that mafia has to waste time taking care of the SK. All an SK-lynch does right now is just vastly remove the pressure on scum. It makes no sense to lynch the SK. At all.

House · Post Post #3490 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:01 pm

In post 3484, pirate mollie wrote:can you link the game where titus was your IC?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/o ... -6.371364/

This was my first MS game, which she was in. IC was a term she used, not me. I didn't even know what an IC was until I came here.

House · Post Post #3491 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:04 pm

In post 3486, RachMarie wrote:feeling pretty good about Ank he can go in my town pile He also brings up a good point for those who say Mollie is the SK lynch her with fire, At this stage in a large game, having the double deaths works against the scum. Why look so hard for the SK? He or she may be antitown, but so far has done a lot to help with finding scum. If we get all the maf lynched or they get NKed by the SK, that helps town at this point, later we can catch the SK.

House you are off base but that is ok you keep thinking I am scum whilst I think you are, sooner or later we will know who is right Though why would you as town soft defend someone you think is scum, I have no clue on?

Anyone else you think is scum, or maybe some town reads?

I think you completely misread my post if you got the notion that I'm reading you as scum.

Garmr · Post Post #3492 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:05 pm

In post 3489, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3485, Garmr wrote:It's also town interest to lynch sk since we don't win with it. Mollie is obvious sk people who are saying we can leash the sk whats the point as we only have like 1 or 2 scum left and a fuck load of townies.

You completely ignored the part of my post where I said that mafia has to waste time taking care of the SK. All an SK-lynch does right now is just vastly remove the pressure on scum. It makes no sense to lynch the SK. At all.

We have to deal with sk sometime and what happens when we get to the point where sk and mafia have mauled town down and we are in a lose lose situation.. How long do we leave sk till it backfires on us.

Also why not try starting a wagon on me.

pirate mollie · Post Post #3493 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:06 pm

I am not the fucking sk goddamn.

at this stage plz fucking lynch me if that is the retarded way you guys are determined to go.

like srsly get it out of the way, garmr has poisoned my slot beyond recovery cos you people are srs fucking idiots.

VOTE: mollie

I have never done this in a game on this site and hope to never do it again. MOTHERFUCKING 2 GODDAMN MONTHS I HAVE HAD TO PUT UP WITH THIS BULLSHIT.

I AM NOT THE SK!!!!

BUT PLZ LYNCH ME IN ORDER TO REMOVE THE WIFOM COS IT IS BAD FOR TOWN AND WHO THE FUCK KNOWS WHO YOU ARE I BET YOU HAVE HAD SOME SUSPICION ON ME AT SOME POINT.

pirate mollie · Post Post #3494 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:09 pm

In post 3487, RachMarie wrote:Garmr

And if you are wrong and she ends up flipping town? Who will you look at then?

vote me. I am not even kidding here.

do the right thing.

Ankamius · Post Post #3495 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:09 pm

In post 3492, Garmr wrote:
In post 3489, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3485, Garmr wrote:It's also town interest to lynch sk since we don't win with it. Mollie is obvious sk people who are saying we can leash the sk whats the point as we only have like 1 or 2 scum left and a fuck load of townies.

You completely ignored the part of my post where I said that mafia has to waste time taking care of the SK. All an SK-lynch does right now is just vastly remove the pressure on scum. It makes no sense to lynch the SK. At all.

We have to deal with sk sometime and what happens when we get to the point where sk and mafia have mauled town down and we are in a lose lose situation.. How long do we leave sk till it backfires on us.

Also why not try starting a wagon on me.

In post 3482, Ankamius wrote:Last note: This will naturally change eventually. 16 alive players is too early for this to be an imminent problem that has to be dealt with.

pirate mollie · Post Post #3496 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:09 pm

In post 3489, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3485, Garmr wrote:It's also town interest to lynch sk since we don't win with it. Mollie is obvious sk people who are saying we can leash the sk whats the point as we only have like 1 or 2 scum left and a fuck load of townies.

You completely ignored the part of my post where I said that mafia has to waste time taking care of the SK. All an SK-lynch does right now is just vastly remove the pressure on scum. It makes no sense to lynch the SK. At all.

if you are town then take care of garmr.

vote me.

Ankamius · Post Post #3497 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:12 pm

idk

If we get another scumflip by the start of day 5, I'll be more in support of it I guess. I think we're more in a position where clarifying motivations is more useful than clarifying roles, if that makes sense.

House · Post Post #3498 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:13 pm

In post 3493, pirate mollie wrote:I am not the fucking sk goddamn.

at this stage plz fucking lynch me if that is the retarded way you guys are determined to go.

like srsly get it out of the way, garmr has poisoned my slot beyond recovery cos you people are srs fucking idiots.

VOTE: mollie

I have never done this in a game on this site and hope to never do it again. MOTHERFUCKING 2 GODDAMN MONTHS I HAVE HAD TO PUT UP WITH THIS BULLSHIT.

I AM NOT THE SK!!!!

BUT PLZ LYNCH ME IN ORDER TO REMOVE THE WIFOM COS IT IS BAD FOR TOWN AND WHO THE FUCK KNOWS WHO YOU ARE I BET YOU HAVE HAD SOME SUSPICION ON ME AT SOME POINT.

Why not just sell Garmr's lynch instead of resign to your own?

You are the one town has been sheeping. If you think Garmr is scum, why aren't you voting him?

Ankamius · Post Post #3499 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:14 pm

I really really really want to avoid the trap of going through with this mollie-lynch thing and then having the momentum turn into a House-lynch tomorrow.