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Post Post #3700 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:43 pm

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In post 3698, House wrote:
In post 3697, Ankamius wrote:This argument's only useful for shitting up the thread at this point. Campaign me all you want if you care enough.


Yeah, getting frustrated at tunneling and giving up on fruitless arguments gets you scum read with this town.


I'll believe it when I see it. Unless the last few half-page changes everything, I'm not being lynched today anyways.
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Post Post #3701 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:53 pm

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In post 3694, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3693, Ankamius wrote:Then why do your posts look so jagged? You state the same point twice in the first post and your mention about 'saving' me makes no sense with that reasoning at all.


StrangerCoug is town.


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Post Post #3702 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:56 pm

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In post 3701, Kthxbye wrote:
In post 3694, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3693, Ankamius wrote:Then why do your posts look so jagged? You state the same point twice in the first post and your mention about 'saving' me makes no sense with that reasoning at all.


StrangerCoug is town.


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Post Post #3703 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:59 pm

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Just finished game featuring House-scum

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=58830
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Post Post #3704 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:02 pm

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In post 3703, PeregrineV wrote:Just finished game featuring House-scum

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=58830


How does that affect your read on him this game?
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Post Post #3705 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:07 pm

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In post 3704, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3703, PeregrineV wrote:Just finished game featuring House-scum

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=58830


How does that affect your read on him this game?


Based on this, competence is scum for him. Making him probably town. But, I'll read him over again in ISO with an eye towards this.
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Post Post #3706 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:16 pm

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In post 3705, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3704, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3703, PeregrineV wrote:Just finished game featuring House-scum

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=58830


How does that affect your read on him this game?


Based on this, competence is scum for him. Making him probably town. But, I'll read him over again in ISO with an eye towards this.

So, post-game self meta is acceptable for future game meta declarations?
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Post Post #3707 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:28 pm

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So, after reading up on Titus:

-I think Nero is town.
-PM is still town.
-PV is likely town unless Titus really thought she'd never be lynched. is way too early to be calling scum buddies town imo.
***I still very much like Josh for scum. see and . I don't run into encryptors often enough to comment on them before they flip. Scum slip I think in 655 and more info than town should have in 708.
-TD likely town for same reasons as PV. and . Almost like Titus was begging town to case town.
-Rach is very hard to read due to lack of posting. Meh, not feeling scum but not feeling town either....
-d3x is still town. Titus basically licks his balls all game because he came out strong town from the start. Looks like trying to be on his good side vs trying to colaberate in thread. This strengthened by the fact scum HAD day talk. Also, if d3x is going to bus, he's not going to jump off scum-Titus when she's at L-1. If he's gonna bus, he's gonna bus hard.
-TWIE is likely town.
-House maybe town due to Titus's hard core wanting to get his claim out if it was a cop claim. Kinda not sure why he wasn't targeted last night though if group scum thought this was the case...hmmm

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Post Post #3708 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:31 pm

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eyes started to blurr a bit. will be back with more from Titus reading.
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Post Post #3709 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:32 pm

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In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6407259#p6407259]post 3706[/url], House wrote:
In post 3703, PeregrineV wrote:Just finished game featuring House-scum

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=58830


Lol @ posting the link in every game we're in together.


Very fresh meta. Very good to use to compare, esp. with you as scum in that game.
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Post Post #3710 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:34 pm

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In post 3707, House wrote:
In post 3705, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3704, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3703, PeregrineV wrote:Just finished game featuring House-scum

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=58830


How does that affect your read on him this game?


Based on this, competence is scum for him. Making him probably town. But, I'll read him over again in ISO with an eye towards this.

So, post-game self meta is acceptable for future game meta declarations?


You're most likely being honest since you are still flush with victory. Concurrent play most likely means you play similar alignments similarly. You are new to the site so have less distracting games that you might try to use different playstyles.
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Post Post #3711 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:35 pm

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In post 3708, Kthxbye wrote:So, after reading up on Titus:

-I think Nero is town.
-PM is still town.
-PV is likely town unless Titus really thought she'd never be lynched. is way too early to be calling scum buddies town imo.
***I still very much like Josh for scum. see and . I don't run into encryptors often enough to comment on them before they flip. Scum slip I think in 655 and more info than town should have in 708.
-TD likely town for same reasons as PV. and . Almost like Titus was begging town to case town.
-Rach is very hard to read due to lack of posting. Meh, not feeling scum but not feeling town either....
-d3x is still town. Titus basically licks his balls all game because he came out strong town from the start. Looks like trying to be on his good side vs trying to colaberate in thread. This strengthened by the fact scum HAD day talk. Also, if d3x is going to bus, he's not going to jump off scum-Titus when she's at L-1. If he's gonna bus, he's gonna bus hard.
-TWIE is likely town.
-House maybe town due to Titus's hard core wanting to get his claim out if it was a cop claim. Kinda not sure why he wasn't targeted last night though if group scum thought this was the case...hmmm

Think I'll keep my vote on Josh.


What do you think about ? If TD is town, why do scum try so hard to NOT lynch him? Is FFFFFF more dangerous?
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Post Post #3712 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:54 pm

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@Garmr- Why did you choose to not respond to anything else from my p? I'm curious to hear a response to the 2ndary Lynch Claim. Did I understand you correctly when I said you asserted that 5 players would back the mollieWagon? And then I showed that this was a lie?

@Kthx- No, I don't think it's harsh at all. Not only have I used that exact terminology earlier in this game, we're talking about Lynching someone. Lynching is pretty harsh, bro. I fail to see the difference. Or are you saying that my placement of you on my List is harsh?

@mollie- I hear what you're saying, but I'm not about to Lynch anyone who's not on my Scum List. I legitimately feel bad that you're having a shitshow time of it, love. I wish that wasn't the case, but it is. :(

This needs to die Today. I'm not moving my Vote.

@Ank {and anyone else fronting this opinion}- Explain to me NeroScum. I refuse to believe that 4/6 Wagoners were all ScumMates.

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In post 1165, jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count


TiphaineDeath
(6):
T S O
, TheWayItEnds, Kthxbye, StrangerCoug,
FFAE00 FFED00
, Mom<Ank>
FFAE00 FFED00
(6):
Titus
, Majiffy<Kise>,
I Am Innocent
, Nero Cain,
vezokpiraka
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Aunt Jemina

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I have no creativity

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(1): Josh_B
T S O
(1): TiphaineDeath
Hostile Intent
(1): pirate mollie
StrangerCoug
(1): PeregrineV
Yiley
(1): d3x
TheWayItEnds
(1): Garmr

Not Voting
(6): inte<Pine>,
Hostile Intent
,
Wake88
, RachMarie, Lucky2u, Yiley<Fish>


@P5- ^^ That is what you are not answering. You are
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Voting Nero and not responding to me regarding this issue.

@page145- There seem to be a bunch of people talking about supporting a FishWagon without actually pushing/Voting. That bothers me almost as much as the landscape of Wagons being attempted have all pretty much shifted once a FishWagon became the out and out front runner. If he flips Scum, this will definitely be key to finding his partner{s}.

In post 3664, PeregrineV wrote:In 1165, 4 of the votes on FFFFF are scum.
Explain.
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Post Post #3713 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:55 pm

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In post 3708, Kthxbye wrote:Think I'll keep my vote on Josh.
Not only is your Vote not on Josh, it'd better not change to Josh. Fish is the clear Lynch for Today.
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Post Post #3714 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:06 pm

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youre right, forgot it was on fish.

UNVOTE:

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Post Post #3715 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:24 pm

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In post 3713, d3x wrote:@Ank {and anyone else fronting this opinion}- Explain to me NeroScum. I refuse to believe that 4/6 Wagoners were all ScumMates.


Sure.

In post 2775, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2771, pirate mollie wrote:I don't usually go after indies I think it is a waste of time

I could buy that you are the sk.

I'd also be ok with a pl of Titus.


This is the original post that got me to scumread Nero. He posts noncommittal reads on two controversial players. This wasn't as relevant at the time, but he never did jack shit with either of them the entire day phase.

In post 2780, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2779, Ankamius wrote:New scumreads:
pirate mollie and
Nero Cain.


*waves hand*

This is not the scum you are looking for.

In post 2781, Nero Cain wrote:oh nm, you are in the mom slot, no wonder you are trying to mislynch me.


His response to me posting that I have a scumread on him. He dismisses it out of turn with reasoning that makes no sense. If you look at the rest of his posts throughout the day phase, he kinda flipflops on Titus a bit, but the lack of anything concrete when he shows he's paying enough attention to somewhat follow the game is raising red flags.

He votes mollie here to start off day 4 with, but very quickly throws out that he's open to leashing as well. Even after there's a significant amount of open opposition to the mollie-wagon, he just camps on it passively until sheeping the wagon on me the moment it starts to form.

I didn't bother looking at his ISO before I replaced in, but his play the last two day phases screams scum flying under the radar as the more vocal players duke it out amongst themselves.
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Post Post #3716 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:29 pm

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@dex
Tbh I thought more people agreed on mollie being sk than but conversation is proving otherwise I don't know where this 5 thing is coming from through. Tbh I addressed the points to me and made notes about who you wanted to lynch over the course of the day. Also if its me wanting to lynch the sk now I have explained my reasoning of why it's best to deal with me or mollie now. Pretty much all your questions have been talked about by other people.

Or is you talking to other people because i did note what you said but I didn't want to interrupt your pushes.

Also if your going to say my view on how sk should be dealt with is wrong I'm going to say fuck off I changed my mind since day 3. If mollie is just going to say smart remarks and cry us a river all day I don't care how anti town i have to be she can die (ingame.)
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Post Post #3717 (ISO) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:45 am

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In post 3713, d3x wrote:
@Ank {and anyone else fronting this opinion}- Explain to me NeroScum. I refuse to believe that 4/6 Wagoners were all ScumMates.

In post 1165, jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count


TiphaineDeath
(6):
T S O
, TheWayItEnds, Kthxbye, StrangerCoug,
FFAE00 FFED00
, Mom<Ank>
FFAE00 FFED00
(6):
Titus
, Majiffy<Kise>,
I Am Innocent
, Nero Cain,
vezokpiraka
,
Aunt Jemina

Garmr
(1):
I have no creativity

pirate mollie
(1): Josh_B
T S O
(1): TiphaineDeath
Hostile Intent
(1): pirate mollie
StrangerCoug
(1): PeregrineV
Yiley
(1): d3x
TheWayItEnds
(1): Garmr

Not Voting
(6): inte<Pine>,
Hostile Intent
,
Wake88
, RachMarie, Lucky2u, Yiley<Fish>


@P5- ^^ That is what you are not answering. You are
still
Voting Nero and not responding to me regarding this issue.

In post 3664, PeregrineV wrote:In 1165, 4 of the votes on FFFFF are scum.
Explain.


Since it's Tuesday with Thanksgiving coming up, I might be VLA over the holidays, so will claim this now.

I am the cop.

Night1: StrangerCoug is town
Night2: IamInnocent is scum
Night3: Nero is scum

So, on the 1165 vote count, there are 4 of the presumably 6 scummembers voting the counterwagon to TD. (could be Kise is scum too, but that would be too funny).
Since FFFFFF is not the Mafia God, this indicates to me that they did not want TD lynched. Very badly.
Making him highly likely to be scum, and should definitely be tomorrow's lynch.

tl:dr- Vote Nero
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Post Post #3718 (ISO) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:55 am

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VOTE: Nero

Cop guilty
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Post Post #3719 (ISO) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:03 am

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In post 3719, House wrote:VOTE: Nero

Cop guilty


And your last 2 selections for scum? (Throw in your SK guess too)
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Post Post #3720 (ISO) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:12 am

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In post 3720, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3719, House wrote:VOTE: Nero

Cop guilty


And your last 2 selections for scum? (Throw in your SK guess too)


No idea, you cleared the one I wanted dead the most.
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Post Post #3721 (ISO) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:20 am

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In post 3721, House wrote:
In post 3720, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3719, House wrote:VOTE: Nero

Cop guilty


And your last 2 selections for scum? (Throw in your SK guess too)


No idea, you cleared the one I wanted dead the most.


OK, then lets regress. Do you have any reads on other players in this game?
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Post Post #3722 (ISO) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:23 am

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In post 3699, Ankamius wrote:Your 'saving' point doesn't make any sense because if you have to put that you think I'm scummy that many times, why would you you feel the need to save me from that situation in the first place?

I said I
WOULDN'T
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In post 3718, PeregrineV wrote:I am the cop.

Night1: StrangerCoug is town
Night2: IamInnocent is scum
Night3: Nero is scum

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Post Post #3723 (ISO) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:43 am

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Vote: Nero


I have no reason not to believe you right now. And this seems like a pretty stupid thing for you to do if you were actually scum.
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Post Post #3724 (ISO) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:44 am

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In post 3724, Formerfish wrote:
Vote Nero


I have no reason not to believe you right now. And this seems like a pretty stupid thing for you to do if you were actually scum.


Well, considering I made it 1000% times easier, I expect that read/catchup will be done in the next few days, right?
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