You could be anyone II - Game Over

Formerfish · Post Post #3900 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:47 am

In post 3899, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3897, Formerfish wrote:I sorta get why you didn't scope me, but why not take a look at Mollie? She is a major point of contention right now dividing the town into sects. If she were cleared it would open things up a whole lot more than Josh being conftown. I don't even remember anyone really suspecting Josh.

Actually, I don't know if Mollie is the SK or not, but I don't think she is mafia, and that's who I'm going for right now.

Plus, if I returned an innocent on Mollie, you really expect the push for her lynch to go away? Because I suspect it wouldn't.

So you felt Josh could have been scum?

d3x · Post Post #3901 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:08 am

In post 3896, PeregrineV wrote:That makes my job to find the last one (or the SK).

Explain the part about you finding the SK as a Cop.

House · Post Post #3902 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:16 am

In post 3901, d3x wrote:
In post 3896, PeregrineV wrote:That makes my job to find the last one (or the SK).
Explain the part about you finding the SK as a Cop.

I don't think he was referring to his role by that post, as I believe he was insinuating that investigating mollie would be a waste of time in the below quoted post (and thus not stop the push for her lynch)

In post 3899, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3897, Formerfish wrote:I sorta get why you didn't scope me, but why not take a look at Mollie? She is a major point of contention right now dividing the town into sects. If she were cleared it would open things up a whole lot more than Josh being conftown. I don't even remember anyone really suspecting Josh.

Actually, I don't know if Mollie is the SK or not, but I don't think she is mafia, and that's who I'm going for right now.

Plus, if I returned an innocent on Mollie, you really expect the push for her lynch to go away? Because I suspect it wouldn't.

Pine · Post Post #3903 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:30 am

Well, the presence of an FBI Agent suggests that the SK is immune to Cop

PV, can you restate the case on TD?

PeregrineV · Post Post #3904 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:41 am

In post 3901, d3x wrote:
In post 3896, PeregrineV wrote:That makes my job to find the last one (or the SK).
Explain the part about you finding the SK as a Cop.

Well, if the SK is investigation immune, then the FBI Agent role is useless. If the SK is investigation immune except to the FBI Agent, then they are not investigation immune, they are immune to cop investigation. Since that sounds hinky as shit to say, and would warn the SK that an FBI Agent exists, I don't think Jason would do it that way. So, purely speculatively, guessing the SK is not II, but is probably BP.

Or, I could be wrong.

PeregrineV · Post Post #3905 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:41 am

In post 3903, Pine wrote:Well, the presence of an FBI Agent suggests that the SK is immune to Cop

PV, can you restate the case on TD?

It's in my ISO, but will do again tonight.

Pine · Post Post #3906 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:44 am

Was asking for a rephrase and summary, rather than an archive dive. Thanks

Formerfish · Post Post #3907 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:50 am

In post 3902, House wrote:
In post 3901, d3x wrote:
In post 3896, PeregrineV wrote:That makes my job to find the last one (or the SK).
Explain the part about you finding the SK as a Cop.

I don't think he was referring to his role by that post, as I believe he was insinuating that investigating mollie would be a waste of time in the below quoted post (and thus not stop the push for her lynch)

In post 3899, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3897, Formerfish wrote:I sorta get why you didn't scope me, but why not take a look at Mollie? She is a major point of contention right now dividing the town into sects. If she were cleared it would open things up a whole lot more than Josh being conftown. I don't even remember anyone really suspecting Josh.

Actually, I don't know if Mollie is the SK or not, but I don't think she is mafia, and that's who I'm going for right now.

Plus, if I returned an innocent on Mollie, you really expect the push for her lynch to go away? Because I suspect it wouldn't.

Do you speak for PV often, or was this a one time thing?

House · Post Post #3908 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:53 am

In post 3907, Formerfish wrote:
In post 3902, House wrote:
In post 3901, d3x wrote:
In post 3896, PeregrineV wrote:That makes my job to find the last one (or the SK).
Explain the part about you finding the SK as a Cop.

I don't think he was referring to his role by that post, as I believe he was insinuating that investigating mollie would be a waste of time in the below quoted post (and thus not stop the push for her lynch)

In post 3899, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3897, Formerfish wrote:I sorta get why you didn't scope me, but why not take a look at Mollie? She is a major point of contention right now dividing the town into sects. If she were cleared it would open things up a whole lot more than Josh being conftown. I don't even remember anyone really suspecting Josh.

Actually, I don't know if Mollie is the SK or not, but I don't think she is mafia, and that's who I'm going for right now.

Plus, if I returned an innocent on Mollie, you really expect the push for her lynch to go away? Because I suspect it wouldn't.

Do you speak for PV often, or was this a one time thing?

Depends in whether the mood strikes me.

Thank you for your interest!

Formerfish · Post Post #3909 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:01 am

In post 3908, House wrote:
In post 3907, Formerfish wrote:
In post 3902, House wrote:
In post 3901, d3x wrote:
In post 3896, PeregrineV wrote:That makes my job to find the last one (or the SK).
Explain the part about you finding the SK as a Cop.

I don't think he was referring to his role by that post, as I believe he was insinuating that investigating mollie would be a waste of time in the below quoted post (and thus not stop the push for her lynch)

In post 3899, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3897, Formerfish wrote:I sorta get why you didn't scope me, but why not take a look at Mollie? She is a major point of contention right now dividing the town into sects. If she were cleared it would open things up a whole lot more than Josh being conftown. I don't even remember anyone really suspecting Josh.

Actually, I don't know if Mollie is the SK or not, but I don't think she is mafia, and that's who I'm going for right now.

Plus, if I returned an innocent on Mollie, you really expect the push for her lynch to go away? Because I suspect it wouldn't.

Do you speak for PV often, or was this a one time thing?

Depends in whether the mood strikes me.

Thank you for your interest!

You don't think it would have been worthwhile to have the guy with the role answer the question? His answer did seem to indicate that he didn't investigate Mollie because he isn't sure she's the SK, not that investigating to find the SK would be pointless.

By all means though, trapse all through other peoples lines of investigation whenever you feel like it.

House · Post Post #3910 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:03 am

In post 3909, Formerfish wrote:
In post 3908, House wrote:
In post 3907, Formerfish wrote:
In post 3902, House wrote:
In post 3901, d3x wrote:
In post 3896, PeregrineV wrote:That makes my job to find the last one (or the SK).
Explain the part about you finding the SK as a Cop.

I don't think he was referring to his role by that post, as I believe he was insinuating that investigating mollie would be a waste of time in the below quoted post (and thus not stop the push for her lynch)

In post 3899, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3897, Formerfish wrote:I sorta get why you didn't scope me, but why not take a look at Mollie? She is a major point of contention right now dividing the town into sects. If she were cleared it would open things up a whole lot more than Josh being conftown. I don't even remember anyone really suspecting Josh.

Actually, I don't know if Mollie is the SK or not, but I don't think she is mafia, and that's who I'm going for right now.

Plus, if I returned an innocent on Mollie, you really expect the push for her lynch to go away? Because I suspect it wouldn't.

Do you speak for PV often, or was this a one time thing?

Depends in whether the mood strikes me.

Thank you for your interest!

You don't think it would have been worthwhile to have the guy with the role answer the question? His answer did seem to indicate that he didn't investigate Mollie because he isn't sure she's the SK, not that investigating to find the SK would be pointless.

By all means though, trapse all through other peoples lines of investigation whenever you feel like it.

Well if you insist...

jasonT1981 · Post Post #3911 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:10 am

Official Vote Count

Formerfish

(3): StrangerCoug, Kise, Garmr

pirate mollie

(2): Pine, Formerfish

Ankamius

(2): House,TiphaineDeath

Pine

(1): pirate mollie

TiphaineDeath

(1): PeregrineV,

Not Voting

(6): TheWayItEnds, d3x, RachMarie, Kthxbye, Ankamius

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

(expired on 2014-12-13 19:58:27)

till Day 5 Deadline

Pine · Post Post #3912 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:38 am

@Mod PV is voting TD

Mod note - Fixed, sorry.

Kise · Post Post #3913 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:30 am

Pine I'm not misrepping. You said, paraphrashing: "Nope. I don't see scumTitus taking that kind of chance banking on HI being the SK somethingsomething."

That counts. I'll have to read this last page in a few mor hours later.,

Pine · Post Post #3914 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:33 am

I expressed curious skepticism, not defense. You are incorrectly conflating the two

Kise · Post Post #3915 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:47 am

Alright. This was my question from earlier- I forgot to quote it:

In post 3631, Kise wrote:You held us up last phase and are holding us up again. You didn't think Titus was scum, okay. You don't think House is scum...why aren't you second guessing yourself when it's proven you've been wrong before?

This was in regards to joining an optimal wagon last phase.

Pine · Post Post #3916 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:58 am

First off,many answer I would give is WIFOM, and I don't appreciate the damned-if-you-do-or-don't position that forces on me. Second, it's not relevant anymore. Third, I was

skeptical

, not

confident

as I am now. Fourth, if after being wrong once I were to throw up my hands and assume that every other deduction I made couldn't possibly be right, I wouldn't be playing Mafia. Fifth, the "optimal lynch" is not House, it's lynching the Serial Killer, who has outlived her usefulness and become more dangerous than any mafia remnant we might be dealing with. Sixth, go fuck yourself

Kise · Post Post #3917 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:17 pm

In post 3916, Pine wrote:Sixth, go fuck yourself

I'd prefer to do that first actually. It's blue ball season.

Yeah obviously I'm trying to figure you out, but I didn't set you up in a damned-if-do/don't situation. Let's cut the creeping hostility out because it's not making sense to come at me like that.

The question is still relevant because you've been slamming your foot on the brake pads 2 phases in a row, and loudly rebelling the way you are is a hindrance. You've either not been voting or have been on suboptimal wagons that weren't going anywhere. At one point, you posted that you were super busy with work and contemplating replacing out. That told me a lot, so guess what? I'm trying to assist you, and right now my way assisting you is slowly getting you to see that your stubborn way isn't working.

Non-town are typically 1/4 of the player list at the least, which means 5 or 6 mafia is sensible, even accounting for an SK. Even if mollie truly is the SK, her having a kill has not lived out its usefulness.

I have a theory that, if there weren't any town roles (or a bulletproof SK) preventing scum from killing last night, they may have chosen to forgo the kill to give the appearance that only the SK is a threat. This would supposedly put momentum towards lynching mollie, but others have already said that there's no way the scum team is 2 goons, a tailor and encryptor.

Kthxbye · Post Post #3918 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:36 pm

PV's thoughts revolving the TD vs FF wagon D1 makes sense.

TD's expression of hoping he was investigated makes me think Godfather.

VOTE: TiphaineDeath

Formerfish · Post Post #3919 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:51 pm

Kise, how would the lack of a scum kill make us think that scum isn't a threat? They still have the ability to kill regardless of what else they have for a role. If they are the last one left they can act and kill, according to SC he let's his scum do both either way.

Ankamius · Post Post #3920 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:10 pm

In post 3918, Kthxbye wrote:PV's thoughts revolving the TD vs FF wagon D1 makes sense.

TD's expression of hoping he was investigated makes me think Godfather.

VOTE: TD

I strongly doubt he's a godfather simply by TSO's posts between days 1 and 2. It supports the notion that he was neighborized.

Ankamius · Post Post #3921 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:11 pm

TBH if we really have to, we can look at whether he's a scum neighborizer or not once we nag the last scum and see what kind of PR they are (IF they are one). Until then, it's not a very good lynch.

Ankamius · Post Post #3922 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:11 pm

VOTE: FormerFish

Kise · Post Post #3923 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:28 pm

In post 3919, Formerfish wrote:Kise, how would the lack of a scum kill make us think that scum isn't a threat?

Because if you look at people voting mollie, they say "hey maybe mafia is all gone now so let's lynch her since she's prob the SK and has no more use to town"

Garmr & Pine seem to believe scum aren't a threat. Ask them.

Kise · Post Post #3924 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:30 pm

And Garmr especially jumped right on mollie in his first post today. I forget whether it's the same for Pine.