With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Open 577: Hope Plus One! (GAME OVER - SCUM WIN)
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Vote Count 1.13
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Rudolph the Reindeer (3)- Mathdino, acryon, Aneninen
GGG (2)- Rudolph the Reindeer, TellTaleHeart
texcat (4)- Idiotking, bookitty, GGG, orcinus_theoriginal
orcinus_theoriginal (4)- Cain+Able, copper223, texcat, My Milked EekLast edited by theelkspeaks on Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:38 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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In post 759, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:VOTE: rudolph
i wonder how far i can get into this game before people start scumreading me for not writing a case
i dont want to write a case
In post 763, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:In post 762, acryon wrote:I would like to add that one of the key points of my arguments that continues to be overlooked is C+A misrepresentation. This has been written off my Math mostly as just miscommunication, but it's a little disingenuous to say my case was entirely playstyle-related. You can look at my ISO to see that it was more than that.
haha i remember hearing this recently
VOTE: cane and able
come one come all
In post 947, acryon wrote:
He has voted twice. Once for C+A who had 0 votes, and then on you, which could be categorized as jumping on randomly.
You were the 3rd vote on Orcinus in 5 posts.
And the two of you said almost the exact same thing of each other's wagons (that is, basically nothing).
Actually, he has voted 3 times. And while I didn't comment in the post where I voted, I had previously commented on Orc's scum hunting, or lack of scum hunting.
And yes that was a response to your question and request for a followup, Acryon, as well as a response to Mathdino's question about my recently completed games.-
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In post 937, Cane + Able wrote:- House
In post 944, acryon wrote:In post 942, copper223 wrote:Lol I'm sure you always have 3 scumreads D1.
@All
Can we lynch this guy? I was about to post the same as C+A about wanting out if he continued but I like a lot of players here so I'd rather get rid of the problem, or maybe he is playing like this to be disruptive as mafia, one can only hope and that would at least make sense somewhat.
VOTE: Orcinus
I fear that this town is latching onto an Orcinus lynch because they don't like his playstyle or way of talking to people. I don't particularly either, but he isn't scum for it. Let's call it what it is; this is primarily a policy wagon.
I never suggested otherwise, it's a damn good policy wagon.Everybody lies.
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In post 941, acryon wrote:In post 824, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:In post 821, acryon wrote:Maybe we can get some updated reads to see where people are at, but last I checked, there was no way a C+A lynch would every happen today.
ok so this rings very off to me because there's 5 days left and i have no idea why you're trying to play the diplomacy game especially since replacements shake up gamestate by their very nature and i'm playing along with you as hard as i can and you are not taking my olive branch and i don't know why
hmmmm.
I'm not at all. No offense, but if you actually read through the thread when I presented my case on C+A, there was incredibly strong resistance to basically every part of the case, so C+A would have to do something particularly egregious to get people to change their minds.
In post 838, Cane + Able wrote:Imagine a cop coming up to you as a child and saying you broke the law, and when you respond, "I'm six", he replies "well your uncle that you see once a year knows better!"
It's bullshit.
While I agree that part of my premise for that part of the argument may have been flawed, this seems like an absurd way to describe what a hydra actually is.
It's a pretty accurate description of this particular hydra, if you've been paying attention at all. Not blaming Wake, he has much more important things to deal with. I'm blaming you for leveraging his experience against me when he simply hadn't been participating.
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Bookitty Jack of All Trades
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@Orcinus: Can you try to play nicer, please? I, for one, have delicate baby howler monkey feelings and I don't like being called ugly. Everyone has their sensitive spots and if we can, I would like us to try not to aim for them. It's just a game, after all.
That aside, I had a townread on gravity and I have the feeling that this is playstyle on the part of Orcinus and not alignment indicative. I don't like policy lynches, so I'm not getting involved in one here.
@MOD:The vote count is wrong. My Milked Eek's vote is on Gravity, when it should be on Orcinus who replaced him.
Fixed.
I don't much like Anen categorising my reads list as waffling when I have some kind of read on everyone on it, something not present in Anen's list. Nice to meet you, Pot, I'm Kettle. :p
I haven't shifted much from my previous reads. Mathdino looks a little better, Anen looks marginally worse. I'm still happy with my vote where it is (on Texcat).Last edited by theelkspeaks on Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:39 am, edited 1 time in total."Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
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In post 917, Cane + Able wrote:Methinks TTH really, super honestly doesn't know much about this Wake freak. I, I think she's only played with me once, and I daresay she's not familiar with my six years of experience or the way I deliberately change patterns to try and be less readable. It does feel rather overconfident to deduce how I play from one game, but don't mind me, I'm just the dude in the corner getting gabbed about.
I'm not trying to read you by meta at all. Rudolph is, and that's what I'm trying to evaluate.-
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In post 951, texcat wrote:Actually, he has voted 3 times. And while I didn't comment in the post where I voted, I had previously commented on Orc's scum hunting, or lack of scum hunting.
Well I still wouldn't say the Rudy vote qualifies as random, and it was his first vote of the game, so I looked at it as more of a base vote.
Also,policy lynches are anti-town.
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In post 953, Cane + Able wrote:It's a pretty accurate description of this particular hydra, if you've been paying attention at all. Not blaming Wake, he has much more important things to deal with. I'm blaming you for leveraging his experience against me when he simply hadn't been participating.
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Can we stop acting like a flawed perception of your experience was somehow the crux of my case?
Refer to 393 and explain how those points are based on experience?Get to know me! | Unavailable on nights and weekends.-
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So
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Since C+A seems to have no troulbe talking about the "autistic trucker" situation (ala 939), and seeing as you posted after him, i will as well. After all the list of things we can/cannot talk about should be universal among players, correct?
I honestly honestly think C+A is trying to be emotionally manipulative. The replace out was apparently faked. The vote on me is according to said post purely due to being offended, which as i've mentioned before using that GTKAS quote, shouldn't be the rational response to this. The "kicked puppy" thing is purely AtE and I think that the deliberate manipulation rings scum to me
Given the information I have to work with I don't feel a genuine interaction hereWe are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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Hey texcat
You say i'm not scumhunting. tell me why you feel that way
I think your questions to me were weak weak weak and were asked for hte sake of asking questions, not in order to find scum
what do you have to say to that
Here are the questions btw
Do you have any actual interest in scum hunting this game?
In post 923, texcat wrote:LOL, no, it was an entirely rhetorical question. But here's some real questions. Have you read the thread yet? Do you plan on doing so? I will admit that at 37 pages it is somewhat of a slog. I found the 8 or so new pages today to be a little intimidating.We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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I mean house
he has been unnecessarily vitriolic this game
he has said in the past for players to excuse him for this behavior because he is autistic
I am excusing him for this behavior, despite insults launched at me, because he is autistic
he is now angry
this is not a logical progressionWe are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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I don't support your wagon. I'm not going to comment the stuff that already happened. I feel like I know you a little, though, and I don't think you'd hurt someone's feelings on purpose. That's why I directed my appeal at you"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
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@Acryon
Stop calling it a policy lynch when it is not.
If he was abrasive alone that would not warrant a vote, but do you want to even compare his entry posts to Boo and TTH? Who looks more town to you? He wasted 3 pages and 1 day creating havoc close to the deadline, this is a fact, did he do it soley cause he has an axe to grind with House and is naturally abrasive, or is it scum play? I do not know and the way you just absolve him is bad WIFOM from you, I see no better lynch at the time based on empirical facts and not on playstile.
Instead of giving reads his starting posts screm: who do we (mis)lynch, he actually asked us who he should sheep on, by the questions he asked later and the follow the cop plan he proposed it is evident he did not even read the thread, now tell me which alignment does this look more like to you?
His tone changed the tone of my reply, not the logic behind the read.-
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Uhhh, C+A admitted itwasa policy lynch.Get to know me! | Unavailable on nights and weekends.-
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In post 965, copper223 wrote:If he was abrasive alone that would not warrant a vote, but do you want to even compare his entry posts to Boo and TTH? Who looks more town to you? He wasted 3 pages and 1 day creating havoc close to the deadline, this is a fact, did he do it soley cause he has an axe to grind with House and is naturally abrasive, or is it scum play? I do not know and the way you just absolve him is bad WIFOM from you, I see no better lynch at the time based on empirical facts and not on playstile.
Boo and TTH both look more town than Orc, but I still don't think Orc is scum.
In post 965, copper223 wrote:Instead of giving reads his starting posts screm: who do we (mis)lynch, he actually asked us who he should sheep on, by the questions he asked later and the follow the cop plan he proposed it is evident he did not even read the thread, now tell me which alignment does this look more like to you?
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Yes. I am most sure of Texcat. Not so sure on Rudolph now, given that he jumped on that wagon.
Not GGG still. I am not positive there but I think he's town."Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
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I think copper is town. He was one of the first people I ISOed because it's my belief that if he were scum we'd be screwed. I don't think he is."Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
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In post 972, Bookitty wrote:it's my belief that if he were scum we'd be screwed
he has that scary of a rep?We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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