In post 156, Paschendale wrote:In post 123, Shinobi wrote:Pasch suggesting that only scum promotes policy lynches is weird too. Scum weird, though I may be biased.
Biased enough to make up the "only" part, apparently.
In post 128, Bulbazak wrote:So you don't think Waffles is scum?
I don't know. The idea that posting in different colors is a scum tactic is pretty dumb, though, and a bad reason to lynch. I'm all about making sure that a wagon has good reasons. You know that.
Unvote
No need to keep an RVS vote sitting around.
Spitfire looks an awful lot like trapped scum, but it also looks kind of too obvious, you know? But then he says something like this...
In post 140, SpitFire216 wrote:Also, this isn't acceptable. Thinking I'm scum for your own reasons is fine. Thinking I'm scum for other people's reasons is bandwagonning.
What are YOUR reasons for voting me?
Obviously, no one expects everyone on a wagon to have a unique, non-overlapping reason to suspect someone. And then he backs off in his next post and makes excuses for not contributing. Maybe the obvious scum really is obvious? Maybe it's a noob thing? I have no idea which accounts really are new and which are just alts or hydras. Is Spitfire really that new?
Oh, and his Bulba read is pretty weak. It basically refuses to evaluate him on content, but just on playstyle, and concludes that he is town, seemingly above reproach.
In post 153, acryon wrote:No offense, but read the thread. Mala/TSO/Nether. The three that "scum-claimed" and the three that myself and others have mentioned together explicitly in previous posts.
This comment from me had nothing to do with you being suspicion/not suspicious of me. It was more defending myself at the idea you seemed to push that your joking was clear.
I'm frankly perplexed that you would read them as scum based on their interactions with each other. A lot of the stuff on pages 1 and 2 was just joking and banter, including what I said, and it seems to have been obvious to everyone but you. And I don't know why you're getting so bent out of shape over it. People joke around in the beginning of the game because there's little else to do. And it is rather suspicious when someone jumps all over something that really doesn't look like evidence of scum to the rest of us.
People are talking about these three because they have a lot to say, not because of jokes they made on page 1. Or do you really think I'm a death miller in an open setup that explicitly doesn't have one? Of the three, however, Nether is the one who leaves me the coldest. I'm not really sure what he's getting at some of the time. I don't know what you're getting at particularly either. Perhaps you should try being less rude and more clear when you have something to say. It'll get received better.
I'm not at my computer so I can't cut this down right now, apologies, but a couple things.
This is where you unvote nether and say no use for an rvs vote. Did you forget you made the vote serious?
I'm interested in your complaint to spitfire about his bulba read. In Post 149 he does say it's in part to playstyle but then he goes on to discuss gameplay reasons as well. But nether sprite seems to give similar reasons for a bulba townread in Post 151 and it doesn't bother you. I get that he doesn't mention playstyle, but still.
It is not weak to ask someone for their own reasons for scumhunting someone.
Scum do joke around in rvs. It's a thing. I've joked around in rvs as scum. I've joked around in rvs as scum with something I planned to do based on theme before I've gotten my role pm and therefore my joke couldn't have been alignment indicative, and still people have thought my jokes were scummy. It happens. People pick up on weird things sometimes and quite frankly I feel much better about someone picking up a seemingly harmless strand and showing paranoia over it than someone picking up on "regular scum tells". Sure scum can do it, but on average it's more likely scum.
*there are a couple caveats to this! but I don't know a crayons scum game or his experience, so if I get a chance to meta him I might come back to this. My second caveat is, I'm repeating myself, I'd feel a bunch better about him if he had tried to figure out which of the three were scum, if any. But I also think as scum he had a built in reason to tunnel one of these three, but again need to look at his scum game.
) as scum were incredibly awkward and didn't really make a whole lot of sense in the grand scheme of things. I know he's on Spitfire, but I don't particularly care about his vote right now despite him having a reasonable case on why he's voting the way he's voting. (IE: I don't necessarily agree, but I see how he came to his conclusion and don't have an issue with it logic-wise.)
