League of Legends (Old)

[Oman]

I feel like his laning is a lot stronger than a lot of other tanks, which I like. Still died to Darius a lot, but it's darius.

[theelkspeaks]

My problem was that he's like a tank, just he doesn't have reliable durability. Like, you can't build him like he has full in-kit tanking, or you die when you're small, and you can't build him like he's a kit-damage tank, because then you only do damage when you're small. And also his kit makes you want to build AS, but you can't really afford it.

IDK, to me he's just a mess.

[mykonian]

High base damage is your friend. Also health scaling damage.

Or in other words, fuck hyper. Being small against pretty much anything, that skill alone wins you trades. All you have to do is land a slow when your opponent is not in a position to go all in and you are golden.

AS isn't close the the stat you are most interested in. You get that for free to start with, and deep down in this thread I've got a mathish post about early game AS vs AD. You are not going to find it, but the conclusion is that you need to have a very good reason not to go heavy into AD first. Health is really nice, CDR is pretty awesome, since there's a flat decrease on catching your boomerang, comparatively you get more out of it, and that skill is your solution to every laning problem. I get outpushed? boomerang. I get outtraded? Land boomerangs and chase someone down the lane. I get zoned? Throw boomerangs from your tower, farm anyway. And as megagnar, AS gets pretty silly. You have trouble getting near people to start with, and your main damage tool past your ult is throwing rocks at them and chasing them down with more rocks.

[Iecerint]

I'm pretty sure you just build full tank and triforce and do ridiculous damage. Triforce is especially great because mega gnar's base AD is so high.

[quadz08]

I've seen gnar go bork-tank rather than triforce, I think, but both are probably fine?

also, just played against rek'sai. I AM SO EXCITED TO BUY HER AGGGGHHHH

[FakeGod]

it seems that burrow tunnel thing always goes the same distance?

I was playing blitz and launched hook to wherever he was going to be when he did the burrow thing

he can't cancel it I think

[RayFrost]

Rek'sai's tunnels can do hilarious things

[notscience]

Is anyone else having weird issues with the new patch? I can only log in if I run as administator and chat is being weird for me.

[zoraster]

Rek'sai's tunnels can do hilarious things

you just posted a 35 minute clip to illustrate your point.

[RayFrost]

You can watch about 5 minutes of it, I think, to see rek'sai tunnel through a wall to land farther than zac can jump in the early levels. Might be wrong on that one.

The rest is just cuz it's an interesting video.

[JasonWazza]

Just played Kalista, and fuck does she feel clunky, something about that passive jump shit just had me fucking it all up.

Guess she won't be an ADC that i will pick up at any point soon.

[JasonWazza]

That point where your playing nidalee and realize your spears can still nearly 100-0 someone at max range when your ahead, i thought they made it so that didn't happen.

Though i still love the new nidalee, her new cougar form makes her one of my best assassins.

[PJ.]

Kalista jump is fine. Nidalee not an assassin. Stop exclusivly saying wrong things. Don't build her ap. I want to play reksai today

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Kalista is insane with a lot of attack speed. She can kite a lot of champs, esp melee.

AP nidalee is still good though. Just not as good as the old one

[mykonian]

well, there's a reason to build her AP. It's because AD is the default, but AP isn't much worse, just a tad slower to ramp up, tad less effective later on (iirc). The idea would be to trick your opponent in taking the wrong runes, assuming the default of AD... which nowadays doesn't seem like the default anymore while it's better. I suspect it's not cool enough. Also, I don't think that many opponents at Jasons level switch runes depending on their opponent.

[JasonWazza]

Kalista jump is fine. Nidalee not an assassin. Stop exclusivly saying wrong things. Don't build her ap. I want to play reksai today

I said

I

found it clunky.

Nidalee can be played as more of an assassin if you play her right (get mark, jump in, kill, jump out) and is actually listed

AS AN ASSASSIN

.

I also find that her new setup works perfectly fine with AP builds, AD may be the default people use, that doesn't mean everyone has to use it.

If you are half decent with your spears, then AP works just as well as AD does, and i with the smaller spear find it easier to hit rather then harder (through minions isn't impossible to pull off) and the fact is she has a lot better AP scaling then she does AD (you have cougar Q and AS boost THAT IS ALL)

Good to see you can still be a prat though.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

AP can't handle being dove on, where's ad can deal with it better. But building ap for a poke comp is still good because the spears still hurt

[JasonWazza]

AP can't handle being dove on, where's ad can deal with it better. But building ap for a poke comp is still good because the spears still hurt

The heal isn't the worst, and in comparison to the lifesteal, in a short space of time they are probably equal (given you've just been dove the time you get to lifesteal probably doesn't out scale the heal all that much), the major difference is that AD relys on the cougar form only for the Q (and somewhat the jump as a gap close), whereas AP gives the whole kit power, while taking the power away from your Autos.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

AP can't deal consistent damage on short range. The spear and trap won't help you and in cougar you'll deal 3 spells of damage. Ad will be able to put up a better fight

[notscience]

Would anyone be up for an inhouse tonight or this weekend sometime

[Bins]

Would anyone be up for an inhouse tonight or this weekend sometime

!

[notscience]

About damn time

damn canadian

[Nikanor]

I'd be up for an in-house tomorrow, assuming you don't mind more canucks.

[PJ.]

Would anyone be up for an inhouse tonight or this weekend sometime

me

[Oman]

AP can't deal consistent damage on short range. The spear and trap won't help you and in cougar you'll deal 3 spells of damage. Ad will be able to put up a better fight

AP is reliant on a strong poke first. If you don't hit the spears, you can't assassinate. To be honest, that only works vs a single opponent. The critical skill with zed isn't his burst or his amplifying ult or anything, it's the ability to shadow the fuck out of there after diving the squishy.

Nidalee can jump, she's fast, but she doesn't disappear, it's still way too easy to hard cc her down. Basically I think if you're playing nidalee as an assassin you're playing suboptimally. Not bad, per se, you're just hamstringing yourself (which is fine if she's a comfort champ and you dont have a better AP champ). Almost any burst Mage is a better idea for the assassin type AP.