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Post Post #4525 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:58 pm

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In post 4522, StrangerCoug wrote:
In post 4506, PeregrineV wrote:Friday activity always sucks.

Anyways, last night was a guilty on Pine.

Vote: Pine

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VOTE: Pine

In post 4519, Pine wrote:Umm, no

Guilty on me is NOT actually possible. Peregrine V, I resent this gambit, you're going to get me killed for no good reason

...Is this post even worth my time and consideration? Why would a confirmed cop gambit!?

With the Doc dead this is obviously his last day. He's reaction gambiting to pull an extra effective investigation. If he had a guilty he wouldn't have strung it out like this, looking for someone to be nervous. He'd just have come out with it

Seriously, this is a bad move. PV, please respond.

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Post Post #4526 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:00 pm

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Thank you for not self-hammering!
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Post Post #4527 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:32 pm

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UNVOTE: pine

To prevent the hammer. Going to look at pines interaction with other scum and the other candidates.
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Post Post #4528 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:43 pm

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Also remembered why I thought mollie killed vekoz. It's because mollie said vekoz smelled liked a power role after his death. This made me think mollie was looking out to kill town power roles and she was mafia at that point. It doesn't match a sk theroy.
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Post Post #4529 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:00 pm

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In post 4467, Garmr wrote:my thought processes are different to the average player as is mollies.

This is true. Unfortunately, it makes what you're doing (saying that killing scumreads is something that would come from mollie-SK) a bit of a crapshoot because you have no idea how mollie would play SK since you've never seen her play a serial killer role before. And if you want a bit of insight into her Serial Killer play, check out this old fucking post with mollie describing how she plays SK. So yes, she would kill her scumreads as scum probably but the biggest tenant of her serial killer play is that she's pretty much fucked, so have fun with the role. The strongest point against mollie being SK is her not killing you earlier: she replaced out because you two got into a fight and as Serial Killer, she would have just killed you by now.

In post 4476, StrangerCoug wrote:. She continually tried to push the idea that the Mafia couldn't have possibly missed two kills when there was already plenty of evidence to the contrary

I might be biased, considering I'm inhabiting her slot and all, but I don't actually think this is scummy. I think it would be pretty insane for an SK to be like "guys, there's no SK at all" when there very clearly is.

In post 4476, StrangerCoug wrote:she pretty clearly (pretended that she, from my point of view) didn't know how the bomb role works.

In post 3759, pirate mollie wrote:I think aj was sent to do the nk and that is why she was blown up

Is this not how the bomb role works?
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Post Post #4530 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:54 am

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I think mafia rolecopped d3x and knew he was doc. Garmr, being scum, fakes like he believes I'm doc out of frustration, then they kill d3x to go "see if I was scum I would've killed Kise".

Pine is guilty, why am I not surprised.

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Post Post #4531 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:25 am

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Pine
(5): PeregrineV, TheWayItEnds, Kthxbye, StrangerCoug, Kise
Kthxbye
(3): TiphaineDeath, Nachomamma8, Ankamius

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(3): RachMarie, Garmr, Pine


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Post Post #4532 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:21 am

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Hmm. Kise might be scum after all. Mostly a gut feeling. There's no reason to put me back to L-1 unless he's hoping someone will quick hammer to deny Peregrine V's actual result
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Post Post #4533 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:36 am

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I'm considering a hammer before PV posts again a scumclaim. I don't think he's gambiting, but I don't see a reason not to make sure.
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Post Post #4534 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:33 am

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In post 4529, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 4476, StrangerCoug wrote:. She continually tried to push the idea that the Mafia couldn't have possibly missed two kills when there was already plenty of evidence to the contrary

I might be biased, considering I'm inhabiting her slot and all, but I don't actually think this is scummy. I think it would be pretty insane for an SK to be like "guys, there's no SK at all" when there very clearly is.

Show where I said pirate mollie said there was no SK. Also, I've actually advocated
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In post 4529, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 4476, StrangerCoug wrote:she pretty clearly (pretended that she, from my point of view) didn't know how the bomb role works.

In post 3759, pirate mollie wrote:I think aj was sent to do the nk and that is why she was blown up

Is this not how the bomb role works?

OK, looking at pirate mollie's posts again, I'm going to drop that I think pirate mollie's not understanding the bomb role was feigned. Her posts line up closer to the bomb being an unfamiliar role to her, and it's not a common role in my experience (though one I've used on occasion).

In post 4532, Pine wrote:Hmm. Kise might be scum after all. Mostly a gut feeling. There's no reason to put me back to L-1 unless he's hoping someone will quick hammer to deny Peregrine V's actual result

Why would a cop gambit by lying about who he investigated? It's something that can easily backfire if his "investigation" turns out to be wrong.
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Post Post #4535 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:45 am

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In post 4530, Kise wrote:I think mafia rolecopped d3x and knew he was doc. Garmr, being scum, fakes like he believes I'm doc out of frustration, then they kill d3x to go "see if I was scum I would've killed Kise".

Pine is guilty, why am I not surprised.

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Post Post #4536 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:41 pm

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Busted...what gave me away, Scooby gang?
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Post Post #4537 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:47 pm

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In post 4525, Pine wrote:
In post 4522, StrangerCoug wrote:
In post 4506, PeregrineV wrote:Friday activity always sucks.

Anyways, last night was a guilty on Pine.

Vote: Pine

UNVOTE: TiphaineDeath
VOTE: Pine

In post 4519, Pine wrote:Umm, no

Guilty on me is NOT actually possible. Peregrine V, I resent this gambit, you're going to get me killed for no good reason

...Is this post even worth my time and consideration? Why would a confirmed cop gambit!?

With the Doc dead this is obviously his last day. He's reaction gambiting to pull an extra effective investigation. If he had a guilty he wouldn't have strung it out like this, looking for someone to be nervous. He'd just have come out with it

Seriously, this is a bad move. PV, please respond.

Guys, don't hammer until he responds. We can NOT afford this

StrangerCoug I already answered your question. Faking a guilty after Doc death is a good ploy, it gets a solid reaction, but it's just really dangerous at this stage. We have too many people who are bloodthirsty for an anyone-but-me lynch, a real investigation that can be lost, and a Serial Killer who is, mathematically, about two mislynches from an easy win.
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Post Post #4538 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:06 pm

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The possibility certainly exists that you are being bussed and that PV's days are numbered, but I'm still not seeing how the benefits of gambiting outweigh the risks. If you flip town, then so long as you're not miller, then either PeregrineV is exposed as scum or scum can use your mislynch as a launching board to get him mislynched as well.
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Post Post #4539 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:08 pm

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I'm not a Miller. I'd have claimed it in my first post, like a non-moron

Really, really suspicious of StrangerCoug's attempts to cast PeregrineV as scum bussing. The potential benefits of bussing versus the risk of being counterclaimed while exposing multiple of your buddies and confirming innocents is just SO anti-wincon as a scum tactic...I have to wonder why SC would go so far out on that limb at this stage
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Post Post #4540 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:54 pm

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First off, I didn't say
PV
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Post Post #4541 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:19 pm

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In post 4538, StrangerCoug wrote:The possibility certainly exists that you are being bussed and that PV's days are numbered, but I'm still not seeing how the benefits of gambiting outweigh the risks. If you flip town, then so long as you're not miller, then either PeregrineV is exposed as scum or scum can use your mislynch as a launching board to get him mislynched as well.

This is what I was referring to. Calling his credentials into question at this point is ridiculous, and looks like you're aiming for a post-quicklynch frameup
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Post Post #4542 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:02 pm

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I just love that everybody I attack promptly counterattacks me xD

By "PV's days are numbered" I mean that PeregrineV is going to die by the end of tomorrow anyway. I do not suspect PeregrineV; to the extent that I'm referring to PeregrineV as scum at all, I bring it up hypothetically to help explain why your gambiting theory is outright absurd. You have denied that you are miller, so either you are scum or PeregrineV shot himself in the foot.
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Post Post #4543 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:27 pm

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Maybe you draw counterattacks because the things you're saying are scummy, dick. You're the common denominator

How do you keep denying that the second half of that quote outright suggests that PV might be scum if I'm Town? That's such an absurdly undermining suggestion, I have difficulty seeing it as anything other than coming from a scum mindset. I mean, for fucks sake,I'm the only one with reason to think he's lying, but he's so obvTown it has to be a gambit rather than a scum move
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Post Post #4544 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:37 pm

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If mollie/nacho slot isn't sk. I think stranger cougar has a good chance of it just from his behavior. It's opportunistic and it feels like his trying to say what the majority want to hear instead of what he really feels.
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Post Post #4545 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:54 pm

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^This, though my gut says Mafia. Not really sure why
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Post Post #4546 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:54 pm

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@pine
I don't think his mafia just from pere investigation through also the fact I don't see you and sc as mafia together and pere's probs not doing a gambit.
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Post Post #4547 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:06 pm

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Right, forgot about the investigation for a minute. Chances of Tailor and Cop choosing the same target are really low, so there's merit to saying SK over Mafia
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Post Post #4548 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:14 pm

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If I got an innocent I may have tried a gambit of some sort. If there were a lot of scum left. But since I got a guilty, figured I'd see who was worried about being busted. But I also looked at pine's ISO and voting, and realized that I wasn't going to get any info from them, so will leave it to the rest of town.

Guessing pine is mafia scum and not SK, else he would have tried claiming SK by now.
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Post Post #4549 (ISO) » Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:35 pm

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In post 4548, PeregrineV wrote:If I got an innocent I may have tried a gambit of some sort. If there were a lot of scum left. But since I got a guilty, figured I'd see who was worried about being busted. But I also looked at pine's ISO and voting, and realized that I wasn't going to get any info from them, so will leave it to the rest of town.

Guessing pine is mafia scum and not SK, else he would have tried claiming SK by now.


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