Open 582: Stackin' the Deck/Hipster Mafia (Over)

[Mathdino]

VOTE: ABR
I know your ways.

Is this a random vote? Not sure if you've evolved but I recall a lot of talk of you disliking RVS.

[wgeurts]

It's RVS.
Also why's howl being destroyed for a RV?

[Mathdino]

Why do you assume the vote was random?

[wgeurts]

Cus it looks random and it has bs made up reasons for the lol's.

[Mathdino]

hmmmm

Also, general PSA, I'm gonna avoid giving reads lists and avoid my general transparency unless I feel it's necessary to do so (like if I need to defend someone). I find that reads lists say more about the person giving them than the actual people being read.

So yeah the idea is going to be to decrease my influence in terms of my own thoughts and instead pursue a game more based on engagement and interrogation.

This may or may not be difficult.
Am welcome to criticism.

[Alchemist21]

Well, if you're experimenting with a different playstyle being an IC is the perfect time to do it.

Although I would suggest taking any criticisms with a healthy grain of salt. Scum would love to manipulate someone who's trying out an unfamiliar approach.

[Mathdino]

Nah, some playstyles will get me lynched. Case and point: My playstyle in my early games.

[wgeurts]

k early wagon over
UNVOTE: Bob

He wanted to draw it.

ABR, they can't make scum an IC.

Vote: ABR

I had no idea what this was talking about at first but now that I get it I hate it.
VOTE: Howl

Mathdino misinterprets a post

because he's a robot

as he's playing as he usually does, this type of mistake has been seen by me before.

droog is pretty town too

VOTE: howl

This looks like a normal RVS, null.

Vote: howl

This looks bad in my oppinion, he slipped on too easily.

wait okay completely ignore the above post

let's not have conftown rolefish

Says the guy who's already conftown.

Hoggin that status and shit.

VOTE: HowlThis also looks bad, there is at least 1 scum on this wagon.

L-2

birds do you think scum are more likely to claim scum in rvs rhan town or are you just not very creative

Just not very creative.

Let's get some L-1 going

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Howl

This is the worst of the three, there is a scum between ABR/Alch/2B1S. He is the wprst of the three.
VOTE: 2birds

UNVOTE: Howl
nope

Town here, oh goddammit dino.

[wgeurts]

EBWOP:
Alchemists comment is in the quote, between the vote and L2.

[Riddleton]

VOTE: wgeurts

[Riddleton]

Post 57 by wgeurts is pretty bad.

a) RVS vote on ABR. This is fine, except how he gets defensive when MathDino questions him not liking RVS. His defensive "But it's RVS" responce is trying to posture his vote as valid as if it was handed down from above. He continues with a pseudo-defence of himself by defending someone else who made a RVS vote; He says Howl's vote "Had bullshit reasons for the lolz" and is acceptable. The point here is his vote was

perfectly acceptable

but the excessive justification of a silky RVS vote is very scummy behaviour.

b) His continues to defend the Howl wagon by analysing everyone's votes on it in the Post 57 wall. BB's vote is "acceptable RVS" but null, somehow -- which makes 0 sense. Then claiming that progressively those who slipped on to the wagon look scummier and scummier, peaking at 2birds. He then proceeds to vote 2birds. I don't think it's a coincidence how the later you are to the Howl wagon, the more scummy wgeurts perceives you to be. Could this defensive behaviour be defending his scumbuddy? (Howl?)

c) Continuing on with the "Oh, the IC looks pretty town" joke is pointkess after it's already been done before already.

IN A NUTSHELL:
Defensive play throughout the game so far. He's no reason to be like this as town. He had this exact same playstyle as scum in O574.

[Riddleton]

If wgeurts flips scum, it's highly likely Howl will be scum as well.

[Mathdino]

I question 2birds's scum motivation in putting Howl at L-1. Seems very attention drawing, especially to go and say it's L-1. Please expand, wgeurts.

If Howl's a town wagon, ABR's probably worst.

Also I question wgeurts's comments on me. He chose to talk more about my vote on Howl than about Howl himself.

Edit: yay riddleton
this is a good case

[Mathdino]

VOTE: wgeurts

sheeping riddleton

[wgeurts]

VOTE: wgeurts

Please explain your naked vote.

[Riddleton]

VOTE: wgeurts

Please explain your naked vote.

LOL

[Mathdino]

i also lol'd

[Mathdino]

If wgeurts flips scum, it's highly likely Howl will be scum as well.

what do you think of the idea that wgeurts knows howl is town

[Riddleton]

If my case didn't convince you, that should. Being waaay too defensive-scum like he was in O574.

[Riddleton]

If wgeurts flips scum, it's highly likely Howl will be scum as well.

what do you think of the idea that wgeurts knows howl is town

Hmm... I suppose that's also a possibility. Why would wheurts go to such extremes putting on a show to defend town, though, of he was scum?

[Riddleton]

*if he was scum

[Mathdino]

If wgeurts flips scum, it's highly likely Howl will be scum as well.

what do you think of the idea that wgeurts knows howl is town

Hmm... I suppose that's also a possibility. Why would wheurts go to such extremes putting on a show to defend town, though, of he was scum?

towncred?

[Riddleton]

Maybe. It's more likely he's defending a buddy though if he's scum, especially at this stage of the game.

[wgeurts]

So I'm scum for wagon analysis?
I ignored thw preview, I'll make a larger post later.

[wgeurts]

Anyway, can any of you actually argue that howl was not RV'ing? As if you can't the whole case on him falls flat and so does a large part of the one on me. I'm being called scum because I opposed the general oppinion and I thought scum joined a wagon.