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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:39 pm

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:You can only send encrypted data to one crypto, why would you have 3 cryptos ?
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:40 pm

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One crypto and one bodyguard on him is enough, don't you think ?
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:52 pm

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Albert: Are you talking to me? Because with 2 SIA agents, 1 counter-intellegence agent, and apparently other coded messages coming in from Jack Bauer, 1 crypto is not enough. It takes a full hour for a crypto to decode a message, so if you only have 1 crypto, he gets loaded down with at least 2 messages from the 2 SIA's hour one, and if you still have only 1 crypto, he'll get at least 2 more messages from them hour 2. And he can only decode one an hour, so he's get a huge backload of messages very quickly, and I'm not sure he would ever catch up. At the very least, it would be a long time before we got all that info.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:58 pm

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Well, I'm definitely not voting for Albert. We do not want a mix of scummy and non-scummy cryptos and Investigators. You are misunderstanding something about the mechanics of the game. As Yos said, it takes time for cryptos to decode the messages, so we want at LEAST 2 cryptos at all time. And if they are not trustworthy, we will get a steady flow of bad info.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:05 pm

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I don't know why everyone is moving to Guardian. Now that Yos as adapted the White House Liaison plan, he's a much better choice at this point than Guardian....although with Guardian in charge I get the Deputy position.....

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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:57 am

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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:43 am

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You people think that comment of mine was scummy? Damn, no joking comments allowed round here then, huh? I like instilling some humour in my game - it makes the game more fun. Game. Fun. I think you see where I'm going with that one.

I like Yos' set up the best (even if I am being stuck away in the White House Liaison role) because it's logical. Except for my placement. Ya bum.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:45 am

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Oops. That was meant to include me putting my vote back on Yos.

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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:43 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:You can only send encrypted data to one crypto, why would you have 3 cryptos ?
If there is multiple amounts of encrptyed Data.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:04 am

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YogurtBandit wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:You can only send encrypted data to one crypto, why would you have 3 cryptos ?
If there is multiple amounts of encrptyed Data.
And how will you ensure the safety of the data ?
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:07 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:
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Albert B. Rampage wrote:You can only send encrypted data to one crypto, why would you have 3 cryptos ?
If there is multiple amounts of encrptyed Data.
And how will you ensure the safety of the data ?
True, But still, 2 at least is better than one.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:12 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:
YogurtBandit wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:You can only send encrypted data to one crypto, why would you have 3 cryptos ?
If there is multiple amounts of encrptyed Data.
And how will you ensure the safety of the data ?
If you only have 1 crypto and 2 SIA, he won't be able to decode the data fast enough to keep up, and we just won't GET all the data.

It is true that multiple cryptos will be harder to protect, but it's a risk we're going to have to take if we want to actually make any use of the investigations.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:21 am

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What makes you think SIAs will capture something every single hour ?
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:28 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:What makes you think SIAs will capture something every single hour ?
When did he say that? Are you assuming it takes 1 hour to decrypt stuff?
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:29 am

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All decryptions take 1 hour to complete.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:30 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:What makes you think SIAs will capture something every single hour ?
Hmm. Don't they get a result every hour? The mod did say they receive all transmissions from the targeted player, which I was assuming meant that so long as the SIA is watching he gets a report every hour.

Although, now that I think about it, it could be that they only get a result when the watched player sends a transmission, or even multiple results in an hour if the person asks the mod multiple questions in an hour. That could be really ugly, if it means that a person who asks the mod 10 questions in an hour means the crypto has to spend 10 hours to decode them all.

mod:could you clarify how that works, exactally? Does the SIA send stuff to the crypto once per hour?
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:31 am

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In any case, though, as nearly everyone has to send an action choice to the mod during the first hour, I would expect the SIA's to get one report each during the first hour.
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:32 am

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Yosarian2 wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:What makes you think SIAs will capture something every single hour ?
Hmm. Don't they get a result every hour? The mod did say they receive all transmissions from the targeted player, which I was assuming meant that so long as the SIA is watching he gets a report every hour.

Although, now that I think about it, it could be that they only get a result when the watched player sends a transmission, or even multiple results in an hour if the person asks the mod multiple questions in an hour. That could be really ugly, if it means that a person who asks the mod 10 questions in an hour means the crypto has to spend 10 hours to decode them all.

mod:could you clarify how that works, exactally? Does the SIA send stuff to the crypto once per hour?
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:34 am

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The SIA sends stuff to the Crypto at any time he wants.(he can send as many messages as he wants to)

SIAs might capture nothing or a lot of things depending on the time and the target.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:37 am

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What happens when there are 2 SIAs ? Only one of them receives the information ? Can 1 SIA receive multiple messages ?
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:38 am

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The SIA chooses which target to watch.

If they are both watching the same frequency then I'd expect both to receive the same information.

If they are watching different sites, they'd have different information....
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:40 am

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Yosarian, your setup is terrible. Mafia will probably only contact the mod to send in their NK, which can happen anywhere between hour 1 and 5, with 11 possible suspects, watching 2 players will not amount to many intercepts.

There should be ONE, and only ONE cryptologist at hour 1.
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:50 am

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Yosarian2 wrote:In any case, though, as nearly everyone has to send an action choice to the mod during the first hour, I would expect the SIA's to get one report each during the first hour.
What ? Why would they send in actions the first hour ?
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:40 pm

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Maybe this has already been asked/answered, but can the director reassign players to new positions at will? If so, we could start with zero cryptos and then assign them as needed for decoding. There won't be any encrypted messages at the start of the game, after all.
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:46 pm

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Off the Mark wrote:Maybe this has already been asked/answered, but can the director reassign players to new positions at will? If so, we could start with zero cryptos and then assign them as needed for decoding. There won't be any encrypted messages at the start of the game, after all.
Yes, it takes 1 hour to re-assign a position.
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