MY WORDS
, not the made up or manipulated crap other people claimed I said. If at all possible, I'd prefer you avoid cherry picking like SS just did. I made my case against SS and did my duty in pressing that case. In response I had one player just outright make up something that I never said and ascribe it to me, and now it's as if we've slipped into an alternate reality where I actually said that thing. Another player intentionally manipulated several things I've said solely to try and paint me in as bad a light as possible. As far as I can tell, I'm the only one who saw something, made a case, evaluated the person's responses and found them to be unconvincing and pushed the case, and the result is me sitting at L-2.
Cabd suggested we push me to L-1 so that some late claim by me didn't send everyone scrambling to try and get a valid lynch in. After that, several people expressed unease with the lynch train on me (SS included). Mal was fingered (rightly) for lurking.
@SS - What's nefarious about what I said? First you say you're not comfy with the train on me in 312 but then in 320 you're back to twisting what I say away from the plain meaning and trying to make it sinister. That last paragraph begins with a sentence that expresses this sentiment: "As much as I'd like to see the vote swap to Mal (the seemingly consensus alternate wagon), I don't have any claim or reveal to make (a reference to Cabd's suggestion to put me in L-1 to force any claim I might have, in 302)." You could replace Mal with any other scummy player. I'd prefer to continue on and learn as much as I can in my first game. As a general rule, I think everyone prefers to continue playing over being lynched, yeah?
So, how am I self-contradictory when expressing that I'd obviously prefer not to be lynched and answering Cabd's "fear" that I'll claim late and cause a no-lynch? Did you say that I was self-contradictory because you bought HI's made up claim that I said a HI+SS scum team was likely? Was it self-contradictory because I referenced Mal instead of SS? Let's be real ... nobody seems to think my case amounts to anything. If I'm the only one who thinks SS reads scummy at this point, I can keep pushing, but that seems pointless. If the entire rest of the game disagrees with me, then it seems rather probable I misread the posts. I can keep them in mind going forward and if something new comes up, I can revisit that suspicion. I don't see why I have to be tied to thinking only one person is suspicious or else I'm self-contradicting though; especially since there are 2 scum in newbie games.
Now, I'm going to imply some shadiness on Mal's part, because frankly it looks kind of shady. I find it awfully convenient that Mal showed up again
precisely
minutes after SS went from disagreeing with the wagon on me to questioning me. What's worse is that Mal didn't really say much. His posts essentially sling mud @Jason randomly, and ... nothing. Combine that with the last few pages, and I would put HI and SS in the "watch and see" column. Both have said some things that don't make sense if I read them assuming they are town, but I think the fact that literally nobody else read SS's response to my case as scummy is something I need to consider. It wouldn't be the first time I had a strong (and INCORRECT) read on someone. I don't know what more can be gained by talking it into the ground.
Unvote: Singersigner
I would like to see some substantive analysis from Mal. The timing of coming back to the game seems incredibly co-incidental. It stretches credulity, IMO. So far the problem with Mal is that lurking through the game is bad play to consent to, and that's what Mal is doing. If today goes by and he's still lurking through the game without any real contribution, and no stronger case than Mal as policy lynch arises, my vote will go there.
) I leave myself these warnings for when/if I need to re-read the thread and see what I missed.
