Military School Mafia - Sudden Death - Game Over

[mathcam]

Well, I appreciate the sentiment, Darkblade, but I think mlaker is dead, and not really in need of a replacement. Thorred could, however, replace blackhawk. Maybe that's what you meant in the first place, come to think about it.

Shadyforce: Excellent point. We'll have to take a loot at that.

Bob: There are now several reasons why I suspect a Cadet Airman. First, in every other rank with 3 claimants, there has been at least one evil (Cadet Airman Basic and Cadet Senior Airman), leading me to believe that this is a good possibility occuring in the Cadet Airman rank as well. Second, I suspect that there is one of each rank present in this game...I'm not sure if this is true, as Darkblade might have been sneaky and included unrepresented ranks in the game, but it's a risk I'm willing to take for now. Based on the fact that blackhawk is the only unclaimed rank and the fact that we have two ranks (Tech Serg. and Chief Master Serg.) with no claimants, it seems safe to assume that someone must be lying about their rank. It's not going to be Untrod Tripos, Tigris, shadyforce, or bloojay, because they in turn are the only ones claiming their particular rank.

That leaves the Vraak X/Werebear debate, which we've been through, the stupid_/Stewie rank (which probably merits some looking at stupid_), and you 3.

Hope that clears things up,

Cam

[Vraak X]

I have to assume the same. Right now I would think another airman or a TSgt or a CMSgt. is the final culprit.

[Cadmium's specter]

Someone, I'm curious where that FOS came from. Probably because you find me suspicious, but where are you basing this on? Could you please enlighten me?

If we are going to lynch someone with the rank of Cadet Airman, I'm keeping my vote on Banana Bob. With him being the last one on a mafia bandwagon twice, I'd say he's almost definitely mafia. I've used this theory in other games too, and it turned out to be true quite often. Imagine when someone's doing it twice in a row.

[Vraak X]

Will be away from 15th - 19th, have posted note in Vac/Away thread.

[stupid_]

Well, I've looked at the arguements, and I just don't think the case against leonidas is that strong. While I agree that it is most likely that someone in one of the multiple person rank groups is lying (Which also makes me question Stewie, but oh well), I think Banana Bob has given us more reasons to believe he's scum. Cadmium's realization that he was the last to hop on some mafia votes seems to note his reluctance, but also his want to clear himself as necessary. Also, I was a little thrown off, I think it was a day ago, where he came out with a theory, got a little recognition of it, and then was passed over. Discussion proceeded to mve on, but Bob immediately came back and asked why people were ignoring him. This seems like trying to muck around in the conversation to me.

Of course, I don't know where my vote is right now. I think I haven't voted, though if I have, I'm pretty sure it was for Bob. anyways,

Unvote as necessary, vote Banana Bob

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[mathcam]

Okay, Cadmium makes a good point, and Leo was only just beating out Bob anyway.

Unvote: Leo, Vote: Bob

Cam

[Prizm]

I'M BACK BABY!

I'll post more tomorrow, I need to get back up to speed on this game.

[Banana Bob]

Stupid_, the only reason why I asked why I was getting ignored was because I got NO recognition, no comments about it. There I'm trying to help with discussion and people just ignore me, of course I'd be pissed off and hence why I asked why everyone ignored me.
I've already explained why I was last to jump on the first 2 mafia lynches, so I'm not going to explain myself again. But after those 2 days I'd started to follow the game once more hence the rise in participation.

[blackhawk]

Dont ReplaCE mE!
I'm back sorry for the wait I'll be back in minute to post my rank

[blackhawk]

I"m Cadet Airmen First Class

[Leonidas]

I'm back too.

[mathcam]

Complete Rank List:

Cadet Airman Basic

Someone

,

mathcam

,

Winnie The Foo

,

Demeech

Cadet Airman

Leonidas, Cadmium, Banana Bob

Cadet Airman First Class

stupid_

,

Stewie

,

Blackhawk

Cadet Senior Airman

Tehgood, Indentured Djinn

,

Chaotic_Diablo

Cadet Staff Sergeant

mlaker, scalebane

Cadet Technical Sergeant
Cadet Master Sergeant

Bloojay

Cadet Senior Master Sergeant

Vraak X

,

Werebear

Cadet Chief Master Sergeant
Cadet Second Lieutenant

shadyforce

Cadet First Lieutenant

Prizm

Cadet Captain

Tigris

Cadet Major

EnPaceRequiescat

,

Modargo

Cadet Lieutenant Colonel

Untrod Tripod

Cadet Colonel

Dementia Blader

Key:

Claimed

Dead Town

Dead Scum

Now just remember that the list on page 30 if you ever need it.

Cam

[mathcam]

So unlike most events in this game, this one actually makes me

less

convinced of the Cadet Airman plan. Now it looks like there might be 3 innocents of each of the 3 bottom ranks....though the Cadet Senior Airman kinds of jacks it all up a bit.

Maybe roles and ranks were assigned randomly and independently? I mostly doubt it, as Cadet Colonel was probably destined to be evil. So do we think those two unrepresented ranks are really just missing? Or are two people lying?

Did EPR get semi-cleared somehow?

Cam

[Vraak X]

EPR has not been cleared. In fact, I proposed a hypothesis on how he's scum.. The fact that a Battalion usually has only ONE Major, the Executive Officer. It's VERY rare that you have two, unless one of the Staff Officers are Majors.. but I don't think this unit would satisfy that accord.. Don't ask, I'm just as confused as you are...

On a lighter note, I will be away, as I've said..

[Werebear]

No cadet technical airman? Odd... Maybe one of our cadet airman basics is lying?

[mathcam]

Vote: EPR

Cam

[EnPaceRequiescat]

arg. stupid real life military not matching game...

all I can say is that I am who I am. you guys can ask me to write someone up for tours (I can write two up) and I'll do it. And I'm very sure that if I wasn't my role (the tours writer-upper), and someone else was, that person would not write up those people to clear me. Next, read my roleclaim that was a few pages back. I think I explained my role very clearly. And then there's the bannanna bob via scalebane night thingy. Plus, i was the one that pushed to kill chaotic diablo (who was scum). and I don't think any of my night-actions have been scummy.

[Banana Bob]

I agree, EPR is what he claimed he is (according to our meeting by scalebane)

Since discussion is dying I think I'll just say something. It's just a little thought so I'm not going to put a vote/fos down.
But I'm feeling that vraak is being too enthusiastic with trying to find a flaw in someone, even through the use of ranks and claims. I'm not saying that the use of ranks won't work, I just think that it's not likely that it will and I think we should start over and rethink.

[mathcam]

Totally forgot, sorry.

Unvote: EPR

Cam

[Prizm]

Ok, I've reread every page of the thread, and I don't know who to suspect. What I have to add to the conversation is Untrod Tripod's role and record.

Once again, I am a role blocker. UT blocked:

blackhawk
mlaker
mlaker
Werebear

I'm assuming it was in that order, but it does leave some days missing. I'm going to conjecture that some of those missing night choices in the past few nights were UTs.

[mathcam]

Maybe you could clear that up with darkblade?

Cam

[Cadmium]

Or maybe we could actually try and lynch someone instead of just posting rank lists and discussing them? This has been going on for two weeks now and I don't think we're actually getting anywhere.

[mathcam]

I see what you're saying, but I also feel like the ranks are they key to all of this. If they were distributed randomly, then I'm totally wrong. But it sure doesn't seem like that's the case. If you have any suspicions toward people who I'm neglecting, please feel free to air them.

Cam

[Vraak X]

The ranks MUST have some sort of attribution to the development of the mafia group. I need to go over the documents I have on AFROTC and see what sort of Chain of Command they have -- and I'll get back to you.

[Werebear]

I think a pattern would compromise the integrity of this game. *Shrug* if it were me, I'd make it random.