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[BlueBloodedToffee]

V O T E C O U N T

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Netherspite -

Bulbazak, Malakittens, acryon, T S O

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acryon -

Aquanim, davesaz

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davesaz -

Xayzeck

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Not Voting — Shinobi, Netherspite

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch

Mod Notes;

• Netherspite is V/LA until 06/01

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Deadline is in

(expired on 2014-12-31 23:20:00)

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[Netherspite]

please re read my latest posts after you'll see my flip.

[Aquanim]

Happy new year everyone

Intent to hammer when I go to sleep (probably a couple of hours from now) unless somebody else has first; I don't think anything more is going to happen today.

I'll be around all day right up until almost deadline, so if you think there's a possibility we can get something more today, I can hammer instead.

Putting aside the fact that you've already voted, I'm not sure what else to expect here really. I think TSO's unlikely to be any more forthcoming about his reads, Bulbazak's passed on the option to discuss our conflicting reads further and I think most everyone else has said everything they intend to now.

@everyone

: If the game goes on into another day and I'm no longer around, re-examine your reads on everybody. If it's not Nether and it's not Acryon, then the last scum is (or has been) townread by a fair number of people. Maybe you're the one who got suckered.

I'll hammer in an hour or so I think, unless given reason not to.

[Aquanim]

EBWOP: Also this being New Year's Eve I honestly don't expect much reliable activity.

[Netherspite]

happy new year everyone.

btw i still dont get why bulba hates me so much. it felt like something personal.

aquanim, i believe you will win this game for us.

[acryon]

EBWOP: Also this being New Year's Eve I honestly don't expect much reliable activity.

Yeah, that's fair. Was just thinking I could give us a little more time just in case, but you're probably right.

If Nether isn't scum, I assume davesaz will be looked at closely tomorrow, as he should be.

[Netherspite]

you can safely assume that i'm town as you'll see my flip soon anyway and discuss your conclusions from this fact.

[Aquanim]

If Nether isn't scum, I assume davesaz will be looked at closely tomorrow, as he should be.

True, but I would remember that dave's played more... openly, I would say, about his reads and reasons than Mala, TSO or Xayzeck. Perhaps they can read between the lines of one another's posts. My point is that even if you find some scummy stuff from Dave, I would weigh it as a proportion of his contribution to the thread, as opposed to the proportion of scummy stuff from the three above.

If one of these older MS.net hands is fooling all of the others with their (largely) meta reads on one another, and the rest of us are getting blocked from pursuing them by said meta reads... I dunno what I'll have to say about that. It's unlikely to be complimentary.

I'm trying to decide whether Acryon should claim or not but haven't come to any firm conclusion. Depends how likely he is to get vigged I guess, which depends entirely on who the vigilante is. I think I'll just leave it up to your judgement.

[Shinobi]

Lurk lurk lurk.

Still kind of upset that Mala called a shot on me for no reason but I don't think I'm getting an answer for that today. Tomorrow, prbs.

[Aquanim]

you can safely assume that i'm town as you'll see my flip soon anyway and discuss your conclusions from this fact.

My first conclusion will be that bulbazak appending "-scum" to your name in every post today doesn't make it so.

(damn, it pisses me off when people do that)

about Bulbazak: I didn't like his case on Luca, but Luca did flip scum. I don't like this Nether case either, especially in some particulars. I think he's entirely misinterpreted the whole reaction test thing; in the Nether-scum case I don't see that as a serious attempt to shift the lynch onto Luca like Bulbazak claimed, but rather as a safe place for Nether to park his vote. I don't understand why Bulbazak has clung so stubbornly to the first explanation when the second makes more sense. That being said it's possible it's just an OMGUS based on the fact that Nether's reaction test was directed at Bulbazak himself.

I disagree with his general tone reads as well, especially the part where he claimed TSO and Mala stepped up their game more after the first phase of the game. From my point of view TSO and (to a slightly lesser extent) Mala were entirely unproductive day 1.

Does me disagreeing with his read(s) make him scum? Not necessarily, but it does make me nervous. Trouble is, I don't think I know how to read him - if it's still my problem tomorrow perhaps I'll have to try harder to work it out.

[Aquanim]

Lurk lurk lurk.

Still kind of upset that Mala called a shot on me for no reason but I don't think I'm getting an answer for that today. Tomorrow, prbs.

whoa, whoa, whoa... hold the phone

"Tomorrow"?

[Shinobi]

Yes. Tomorrow.

[acryon]

Yes. Tomorrow.

Why is there going to be a tomorrow?

[Aquanim]

I mean, plenty of other people (myself among them) have talked about this game going another day... but something, I'm not quite sure what, smells about #1583. I don't like it.

If it comes to that, make sure you give Shinobi a really, really good looking at. I remember a lot of "I'm too lazy to make a case" and so forth in his posts, which if cliched is still a way for scum to get away with not contributing. I really don't like that he tried to break up the interaction between myself and TSO,

without

supplying something new to talk about (which one would think would be the obvious, easy way to do that). For that matter, his posts earlier in the game complaining about walls and the length of the thread (I think I'm remembering right here) were... odd at best, coming from a TL.net player. The background we share had a LOT of walls and spam to read.

Take a look through his posts and think "What has actually been accomplished here?", in day 1 and day 2. The answer's not zero, but...

[acryon]

Shinobi and Davesaz are my top two scum-reads for a reason. If Nether is town, the chances of scum not being one of the two seems very low.

[Shinobi]

Yes. Tomorrow.

Why is there going to be a tomorrow?

If we don't hit scum via vig or lynch, it will be Day 3.

I was under the impression that that's how this game works.

[Shinobi]

Shinobi and Davesaz are my top two scum-reads for a reason. If Nether is town, the chances of scum not being one of the two seems very low.

If I die because you morons think I scumslipped I will go to your house and poop in your shoes.

[acryon]

Yes. Tomorrow.

Why is there going to be a tomorrow?

If we don't hit scum via vig or lynch, it will be Day 3.

I was under the impression that that's how this game works.

Yes, but that post seemed to imply tomorrow was a given.

[acryon]

Shinobi and Davesaz are my top two scum-reads for a reason. If Nether is town, the chances of scum not being one of the two seems very low.

If I die because you morons think I scumslipped I will go to your house and poop in your shoes.

Don't worry; I'll likely still be vigged, but they'll get you and Dave tomorrow if we get there.

[Shinobi]

Yes. Tomorrow.

Why is there going to be a tomorrow?

If we don't hit scum via vig or lynch, it will be Day 3.

I was under the impression that that's how this game works.

Yes, but that post seemed to imply tomorrow was a given.

It implies that, if we miss, the question will need to be answered.

My possibly being alive is irrelevant.

[Shinobi]

Shinobi and Davesaz are my top two scum-reads for a reason. If Nether is town, the chances of scum not being one of the two seems very low.

If I die because you morons think I scumslipped I will go to your house and poop in your shoes.

Don't worry; I'll likely still be vigged, but they'll get you and Dave tomorrow if we get there.

I will be ecstatic to see you go.

The last thing I need is some dope getting uppity over things that don't exist.

[acryon]

Shinobi and Davesaz are my top two scum-reads for a reason. If Nether is town, the chances of scum not being one of the two seems very low.

If I die because you morons think I scumslipped I will go to your house and poop in your shoes.

Don't worry; I'll likely still be vigged, but they'll get you and Dave tomorrow if we get there.

I will be ecstatic to see you go.

The last thing I need is some dope getting uppity over things that don't exist.

I'll miss you too <3

[Aquanim]

Shinobi and Davesaz are my top two scum-reads for a reason. If Nether is town, the chances of scum not being one of the two seems very low.

If I die because you morons think I scumslipped I will go to your house and poop in your shoes.

This seems like a serious overreaction.

Shinobi and Davesaz are my top two scum-reads for a reason. If Nether is town, the chances of scum not being one of the two seems very low.

If I die because you morons think I scumslipped I will go to your house and poop in your shoes.

Don't worry; I'll likely still be vigged, but they'll get you and Dave tomorrow if we get there.

I think I could live with either of you getting shot. TSO too, though that might just be because I'm tired of trying to talk with him. Not keen on a Dave shot.

I'm getting tired so I don't intend to do any more analysis, I'm not sure I'll be up in time to hammer in the morning, and since it's New Year I don't feel like running it up to the wire and leaving someone else to hammer is prudent. Anyone here got anything else to say?

[Shinobi]

Nope.

If you want hammer, go nuts.

[Aquanim]

screw it.

UNVOTE: Acryon
VOTE: Netherspite