micro 429: m9++. epilogue.

[mykonian]

dude.

really?

[mykonian]

aww yeah I rock at page breaks.

[TierShift]

You are third on the list behind Sordros for the reasons I stated in 170, and Cyrus who I agree with Tier on, and also don't like the disappearing act he has pulled in the last couple pages. At the moment I think cyrus is more likely of the two to get lynched so am voting him.

On the truth thing. I really just wanted to quote the princess bride. But I do think that you basically saying everything I've said is true and you people just aren't listening is scummy.

Brantz, where did the myko scumread go?

I also know you are smart enough to know that if you are/were town-reading myko that you wouldn't have voted for Fu.

I see that prohawk from the start and definitely up to this point thought/pushed fu and myko as masons. I'd say it's easy to just say your buddy is probably a mason with someone as tk avoid giving a read, but actually challenging me to go and find the mason crumb and possibly disprove it goes a bit too far in that respect. Gonna say hawk is town for this, if his behaviour at day end checks out with the mason thoughts.
Also, myko, I don't know who your 'dude, really' is directed at, but my rereads are legendary.

[TierShift]

Brantzs fence sitting just jumped out at me more.

And am I hearing you correctly saying that you think telltale is trying to distance himself from me because we are scum buddies?

No, I happen to think you are town. I am saying, the fence-sitting isn't exclusive. Expand your view.

This interaction does not really feel like buddies but like hawk knowing fu is town.

There really isn't a lot of substance to Fu at all is there. Using his own words, he seems to have a murderbone for dave, and has spent very little time talking about anything else. Almost half of his posts are promises to catch up (which in this game I think is fairly null but still annoys me). He just jumped way up my scum list.

My top 3 scum reads:
Cyrus/TTH (though this one has gotten a bit weaker with TTH's posts, I am still not convinced this slot isn't scum)
davesaz (I just don't know how his play could come from a town perspective on the whole)
FuDuzn (not much substance, which is why he was null earlier, but there is a lot more to have been talked about at this point)

Tier and myko are both town in my eyes. Everyone else falls in between.

Though as I said, some of this may change with a reread.

Brantz brantz avoiding giving a real read on fu fu

[TierShift]

Oh, at the time of TTH's case on fu there was close to zero suspicion on Fu and there were even people sure-townreading him. The only reason scumTTH would attack him there is if she was suiciding and wanted even more towncred for fu. That does not seem likely, especially considering there actually was a chance for fu to pick up votes from either of me, vyse and dave. I don't believe TTH was attacking Fu there to get towncred herself and ride the game to a scum win; the set-up is too dangerous for that, as was the little amount of town-cred her slot initially had.

TierShift isn't nearly as town as most people are making him out to be. The ProHawk push is rotten to the core.

This still sucks, though. I really don't nderstand what's so shiny about me.

[TierShift]

Post 489 doesn't make sense from a FuD's partner perspective. Optimal strategy in that position would definitely have been to wait out the clock.

This is still true, but I'm going to say it was bad scum play rather than town. I suppose brantz and Fu had a pregame chat saying they would fakeclaim a PR and then let the other back off, or something. Even with that, it's bad scumplay, of course.

VOTE: brantz
Brantz is the last scum. Everything simply points towards it.

Dave/myko are town.
Vyse has made sense all game. I'd say he's one of the best scum players I know if he's scum, but I heavily heavily doubt he is.
TTH is town by virtue of not being stupid enough to bus Fu in the spot she was in and also by virtue of me liking cyrus better.
Hawk is town for a few interactions that I like plus the whole mason thing that checks out.
Brantz is scum, lynch it. My latest posts are full of evidence that implicates him.

Can all the noobs votng me please unvote
Can prohawk please still explain how brantz-fu nteractions don't make them likely to be buddies because they totally do
This game ends with a brantz lynch.

[mykonian]

hmm, it might be fun to sheep tth and see if she can just replace in a shit slot, then pick out both scum and win the game.

[TierShift]

No, doofus, that's not fun. At least not for today. Just read my latest 10 posts and see that it's brantz.

I take back the word noobs as tth created a scum wagon from scratch.

[mykonian]

Your posts are too long.

And can you imagine the storyline if we lynch you and you are the second scum? It'd be amazing. Would you really deny her that? You aren't going to win anyway.

[TierShift]

If I were scum, I'd probably not win, yes.

My posts contain a lot of quotes. You don't actually have to read the quotes, but they provide background nformation for why I'm saying the things I'm saying. So don't read the quotes, see if you agree and check the quotes to se if my reads check out.

[TierShift]

To summarise, my posts are full of why I think brantz is scum plus pretty solid towncases for both hawk and tth.
You're voting hawk, so you should probably read my hawk towncase, at least.

[mykonian]

see, see!

[ProHawk]

I will do a double take on Brantz.

[TierShift]

Myko, please don't avoid voting scum as much as you did that yesterday.

[mykonian]

that's why I'm voting you!

[TierShift]

No, you're voting hawk. Please read my posts and think.

[Bicephalous Bob]

Official Vote Count

TierShift

(2): TellTaleHeart, ProHawk

BRantz

(1): TierShift

ProHawk

(1): mykonian

mykonian

(1): VysePresident

Not Voting

(2): BRantz, davesaz

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-01-11 12:59:54)

[TellTaleHeart]

Brantz is the last scum. Everything simply points towards it.

Where were you when myko was saying this a while ago?

[mykonian]

didn't he have a cosy fence?

[TellTaleHeart]

This is still true, but I'm going to say it was bad scum play rather than town. I suppose brantz and Fu had a pregame chat saying they would fakeclaim a PR and then let the other back off, or something. Even with that, it's bad scumplay, of course.

*sigh* See this is the only thing that gives me pause.

I could see this:
BRantz worried about which wagon was going to win out and he wanted to give FuDuzn a shot at claiming a special to give him the little push over the top he needed to survive the day. FuDuzn just screwed up and chose the wrong role to claim.

[TierShift]

Brantz is the last scum. Everything simply points towards it.

Where were you when myko was saying this a while ago?

I was smashing myko for going like it was autopilot!

But now after a reread I agree with him. His former opinion.

What gives you pause? Me saying that or brantz acting that way?

[TellTaleHeart]

BRantz acting that way.

[TierShift]

But you agree he's scum for everything else?

[TellTaleHeart]

Mrph! The more I look at BRantz's ISO the more I just absolutely hate it.

Well I am not comfortable lynching a claimed cop unless someone counterclaims them. Even if their claim is a bit weak.

But, I do agree that trying to call those posts breadcrumbs is awful, and a huge stretch.

He's insistent on not lynching the claim even though he outright says he doesn't believe it and there's never a serious re-evaluation after this. It's a big deal because in these two posts I'm quoting, the action (the vote) doesn't follow from the belief (the statement that the crumbs are awful and unbelievable).

Are you counterclaiming SB?

This is also bad. SB's Post 546 was pretty heavy-handed, and trying to extract an more information in the form of an explicit counterclaim at that point seems more scum-motivated than town-motivated.

Why is me being uninterested in lynching a claimed pr without a counterclaim on day 1 scummy SB?

In context, this reads a lot like damage control. At that time, the reactions just kind of were what they were, and wanting to hurry up and squeeze in a defense before the day ended doesn't have a readily-accessible town motivation I can think of.

[mykonian]

I knew you guys would take my side inevitably <3

vote; brantz