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[Albert B. Rampage]

Aren't the positions publicly revealed ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

My bad, read too fast.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I trust Off the Mark most, can I have him protect me ?

[Guardian]

Off the Mark Field Agent

Good call imo, for reasons outlined hour 0

CrashTextDummie Counterintelligence Agent

Eh, great call if he is town. Great call if he is scum with you too. I think he is town. I hope. His posts have had really good ideas and stuff.

FrozenAtlantic(replacing ChannelDelibird) Signals Intelligence Analyst

Eh? Not great, not bad

Albert B. Rampage Crypto

perfect position for him. Town, but doesn't really know what's what imo

Guardian Deputy Director

Eh, it was expected. Hopefully you are town, Yos, and not just benching me to bench me.

Spambot Crypto

Disagree here, he is not that sure to be town

Yosarian2 Director

Meh, if he's town, then awesome.

YogurtBandit Field Agent

I disagree here, I find him likely town and good as crypto. I usually find him town, though.

Xdaamno FBI Liason

Eh, he's town? o.O

Eyceking White House Liason

Good enough.

Korran Field Agent

Almost certain he is town. Waste.

UltimaAvalon Signal Intelligence Analyst

SA's are gonna pick up a lot of noise. Also, rather have UA in FBI. UA is most townlie, SA is kind of a waste imo

Thoughts: Yos could be trying his best and have different reads from me, he could be scum putting the noob town in useless roles.

I would encourage both cop roles (either should actually do it, but I encourage both) to investigate Yos.

OTM, do you have anything to say in response to my accusation? It looked to me like you were pushing for my election so you could be crypto.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think the setup Yos chose is pretty perfect, except for Xdaamno as FBI liaison.

[Guardian]

Why do you trust OTM the most of all the players?

[UltimaAvalon]

Holy Crap...is it just me or is the 3rd post brand new?

Re-reading the SIA role, it seems SIA doesn't only choose from one of the 12 players, but from the 10 Suspected Terrorist factions as well. This means right now me and FA have 22 targets and we must choose 1 to monitor.

[Spambot]

I think that monitoring the players is a better option, because I'm not entirely sure how monitoring a faction would help us or what information we would get from it.

I think the assignment is pretty good, although I'm kind of surprised you made me a crpyto. I think that investigating Yos and Guardian is probably a good idea, as being able to have full confidence in them should make things a lot easier.

[YogurtBandit]

Hmm, Field Agent. So, Who shall I protect?

[Spambot]

Hmm, Field Agent. So, Who shall I protect?

You know, that's actually kind of tricky. Normally I'd say that bodyguards/docs should keep their target to themselves, but that would require a pretty big vote of confidence in this game. However, directing you just means that you will never save an actual kill. I guess having an important role immune to kills (probably Yos if he gets confirmed or CTD) is better than not being able to hold you accountable.

[Guardian]

if/once yos gets confirmed, he can tell you in private who to protect. while his alignment is unknown... :S

[Off the Mark]

OTM, do you have anything to say in response to my accusation? It looked to me like you were pushing for my election so you could be crypto.

I can see how you would think that, but even if that WERE the reason I wanted you to be elected (so I could be crypto), you could hardly blame me, since CTD and Yos had me in the bodyguard (or maybe White House) role. I know I am trustworthy, so I think it is a waste to put me in bodyguard, so of course I would pick your setup as the best with regards to my role.

BUT that isn't even the reason I was pushing for you as director. I didn't like how Yos has Xdaamno in the investigator role, that's all it was. As I believe I explained before.

Anyway, my thoughts on announcing who bodyguards should protect: if we say who we are protecting, then scum is guaranteed to kill somebody unprotected. We could each list 2 people we want to protect and then scum would avoid trying to hit either of those people because of the 50% failure rate, since one of them would be actually protected. However, I realize this would give us (if we were scum agents) the ability to say "Oops, I guess I was unlucky there" even though we really weren't protecting ANYBODY. But I think if this happened, the field agent is very likely scum because the terrorists decided to go after his targets despite the 50% failure rate. Does this make sense?

Of course, the terrorists could also purposely go after one of the 50% protected targets because they know if they succeed, the town will lynch the bodyguard, so it's a tossup.

On the plus side, we can put a lot more people under the "protected" umbrella.

[Off the Mark]

if/once yos gets confirmed, he can tell you in private who to protect. while his alignment is unknown... :S

This is a good idea, but if Yos is scum this will quickly go horribly wrong. He will lie to everyone else about his orders to us. But I guess that would expose him pretty quickly... hmmmm.

[Yosarian2]

(shrug) Well, if people don't trust me yet to discuss bodyguard targets in private, we could just assign one to the FBI agent, one to the CIA agent, and let Korran (who is the most pro-town looking of the 3 bodyguards, IMHO) pick one of the 2 cryptos on his own. Not perfect protection, butshould be pretty safe for the moment.

The set-up for roles I sent in is the exact same one I said I would do yesterday; I know there were some people conserned about Xdammo, but like I said, I liked the way he was scumhunting yesterday; both made him look pro-town to me and made me think he'd be a good cop. Hopefully I'm not wrong about this one.

Anyway, time is very limited here, hour 1 is only 3 days long. We need to both very quickly figure out all the stratigic stuff, and simultaiously start thinking about who we want to lynch. We don't necessarally need to lynch someone during hour 1, but the sooner the better.

[Yosarian2]

I think that monitoring the players is a better option, because I'm not entirely sure how monitoring a faction would help us or what information we would get from it.

(shrug) I assume if we figure out what faction is planning on setting off the bomb, it'll be easier for Jack Bauer to go after them.

[Yosarian2]

On another note, as CTU director, I can apparently send instructions to Jack Bauer, telling him where to go and stuff like that. I don't have any idea what to tell him to do at the moment; anyone has any ideas, or if anyone gets any intellegence, let me know. If you want to discuss something with me in private, just ask and I'll invite you into my office.

[Spambot]

I assume we can vote now for who to lynch?

Vote: eyceking

He was far and away the player that bothered me the most in the pregame. I don't feel like he really discussed much and was just happy to go along with whatever the rest of us wanted to do. The few posts with content he did make rubbed me the wrong way.

[Xdaamno]

Two points:

I disagree with an eyceking lynch, as I outlined in my analysis (Which was deleted and I can't be arsed to do it again) as I feel a few players have made him seem more scummy than he is, reading his posts. Yes, I know if he turns up scum (Which he very possibly might do if we lynched him) it's my neck on the line, but I'm not getting as much of a pro-scum read on him as you are.

Secondly: Once again, nobody has outlined any reasons why they think I'm scummy.

[Xdaamno]

EBWOP: I've not recieved details on what any of my actions do:

Arrest (Can be used on Players)
Release (Can be used on arrested players)
Information Extraction (Looking at a player's extensive personal history/expenses to figure out if they are likely to be compromised)
Storming Targets
Wiretapping

, So we'll have to figure them out as a group.

[Off the Mark]

(shrug) Well, if people don't trust me yet to discuss bodyguard targets in private, we could just assign one to the FBI agent, one to the CIA agent, and let Korran (who is the most pro-town looking of the 3 bodyguards, IMHO) pick one of the 2 cryptos on his own. Not perfect protection, butshould be pretty safe for the moment.

I think we should discuss in private. I'll be sure to let CTU know if you lie about the assignment you give me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Arrest is the equivalent of killing a player except they will be thrown in jail.

Arrested players are the equivalent of killed players except their alignment is not revealed and they can be released from custody.

Information Extraction is like a standard cop ability.

Storming targets can be used on any domestic site, so anywhere in the United States, the main area of interest will be Washington D.C. as that is where the bomb is located.

Wiretapping is like an SIA ability except it can only be used on domestic targets and a wiretap will be permanent.

[Off the Mark]

Xdaamno - the reasons you seemed suspicious to me: 1) your early post in the thread with the joke. 2) your attacks on Guardian

That's all. Recently, I've been only getting pro-town vibes from you though, so I am not nearly as suspicious. If you ARE scum, you've been playing very well.

[Xdaamno]

Hmm, Cool. Very useful.

OTM, the joke was because I was stalking the thread. If you're so into metagaming, check because I probably made another post at around the same time as that one.

I partially retracted my attacks on guardian, though I acknowledge this dosen't automatically make them not scummy. Do you really think that after getting pro-town vibes from me now, I'd be stupid enough to attack someone before I even have a chance of lynching them?

[Xdaamno]

EBWOP: If I arrested someone and I died, they'd be automatically released, right?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Nope.

You are not the person carrying out the arrest.

The FBI is carrying out the arrest, they would still hold the target in custody even if you were dead.