League of Legends (Old)

[FakeGod]

hey myko

I'm thinking of picking up gragas; do you have any tips

I think you mained him at some point?

[JasonWazza]

@Jasonwazza

So starting from your build:
- it's currently better to build a Randuins over a Sunfire cape. Randuins scales better (since it actually scales lol) and the pieces do more for you as you build them. It would do better for your ability to help yourself and your team stay on targets because of the active that also benefits Nasus and Morde that don't have point movement abilities. The warden's mail passive is also most beneficial vs double ad carries w/ nunu buff. You should only really look at a sunfire if you need the lane pushing power and you can't use Hydra (read: you're playing shen).

I needed the lane pushing power to try and keep us alive (somehow i always seemed to be 1v2 trying to defend one of our towers)

But yeah i can definitely agree that the Randuin's was better, it was more that i had already built the health item because at the time i was actually trying to avoid building MR if possible (then akali decided to prove i needed MR).

- Since Nasus was building full tank items you could have afforded to go Warrior enchantment on your trailblazer and have a real damage item, that way you could back up your defensive items to dive a little more reliably.

Yeah that probably would have helped a little, i'll admit i was kinda just like "Jinx is fucking everyone, i need to be able to tank her"

- Since Vi doesn't have a lot of innate sustain outside of her passive (in the jungle and in fights) you would have been better off with a Banshees instead of the SV.

How this has failed to occur to me in all the time i have played Vi baffles me.

In any case, because Jinx is the most immobile on their team and you can directly try to dive via point and click you should have been the one to kill her. That combined with above mentioned changes in build path would have helped your team a ton since they wouldn't have had a super-right-clicker w/ blood boil off the field and their teamfight would have broke down from there.

Considering every ult barr one (the one time i was caught out i took the fucking rengar with me with my ult) was onto the jinx but her team turned and actually peeled for her rather then leaving me the little bitch i was struggling to get her killed.

Sometimes you just can't organize your team enough, especially if they're tilted. Caitlyn/Sona is just a bad combo, especially with a Rengar and Akali dive comp so most likely that game was going to be difficult no matter what just from the results of draft. That happens sometimes.

Caitlyn/Sona were first 2 picks unfortunately and i'm still questioning whether or not they were just flat out trolling the team, all i know is my guess was they were blowing all their harass in lane onto the nunu (i looked down there after cait died to see Jinx full health and Nunu 1/3 health) cause you know, that totally makes sense.

edit: If I were you, I would have gone on the hyper offensive with a 21/9/0 setup during draft, gone stalkers>sightstone>warrior to outgank the rengar early and camped the fuck out of botlane and used that pressure to starve out the jungler and use the fact that Morde can hyper shove mid to keep dragon pressure (ward his sides if he doesn't because solo queue). Idk how well your Nasus did on his own but Nasus only needed to go even tbh which is completely within the realm of a Nasus even vs a ranged matchup. Since Jinx/Nunu has very little in terms of escapability (you have Q, Flash and Ult and they can't do a whole terrible lot about it) that would have been the easiest lane to gank for, even if you have to dive them under turret (once you hit 6 at least).

Yeah i have tried Offensive Vi a few times and i can never seem to pull it off, I kinda suck in jungle and it's probably my least preferable role, all i tend to be able to do really well in jungle is have objective control to a T (cause as a support i have learned to start forcing my team to take objectives with me.)

And since new jungle i've hardly even been able to keep my objective control running all that well.

New Jungle sucks

[mykonian]

hey myko

I'm thinking of picking up gragas; do you have any tips

I think you mained him at some point?

Mained him is a big word. I spammed a ton of support gragas.

Ehm, key points are: hit stuff with your W, that's what wins trades.
you can double knock up with e, but it's narrow.
don't build AP, he scales badly (the reason why I played him support, could just build tank items and do the job of a support, without having gotten way more money that I should have done more with)

[animorpherv1]

This just in, Kalista's sentinel stops MF passive.

[FakeGod]

I was hoping to pick him up for solo top or mid.

Do you have any tips?

[quadz08]

This just in, Kalista's sentinel stops MF passive.

that sounds like a thing that probably shouldn't be the case

[Iecerint]

Has anyone tried doing the Runaan's Kalista thing? I've read about it, but haven't really encountered it yet.

[zoraster]

i can't figure out how it happens, but sometimes when I'm playing I'll press a button and it'll send a message to my team that says Zorasterful: ;afk

and then i'll have to explain how I'm not afk but my computer made me say that. is there a way to stop this?

[Klazam]

You have a macro set up somewhere, obviously

[zoraster]

worst macro ever!

[Oman]

I'm thinking of picking up gragas; do you have any tips

I've played a tiny bit of top and support graggy.

I find him...pretty shitty tbh. YMMV.

I guess he'd be an alright tank with ranged disrupt, like a more peel-y renekton? I don't think you're ever going to decimate your lane.

[FakeGod]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo

[mykonian]

I have liked him as support, but it's a champion that requires practice. Esspecially his ult, bit less his body slam.

He has very few unfavorable matchups in botlane, can trade somewhat well, gets out of ganks well, peels very well, is naturally tanky. Issue with him and other tank supports is a little that you have to do well in botlane to get that one item that makes you actually a practical tank in stead of a one shot cc bot for your carry. His ult can do so much work, and really, you never play that for the damage.

[FakeGod]

Can I play him as AP mid?

[Oman]

I hate the "some games are unwinnable" theory, but...
I really tried as hard as I could but just couldn't carry.

I know there's heaps I could have done to have more impact, but by the time I stopped jax's splitpush by solo killing him, the other team had taken dragon and pressed 4v4 into our base. I recalled, ran to the inhib and killed lee and jayce but they still got it

I couldn't be everywhere at once, and I felt like the only one doing damage (even though diana did bring a bit). I was also the only tanky one on the team.

[mykonian]

Can I play him as AP mid?

yes.

but don't do it. His ap scaling simply doesn't warrant putting money into it. Even when you get lich bane.

[FakeGod]

QQ

I need a dependable AP mid to play

[Oman]

Malzahar. He's just amazing. Not as much team fight impact as like orianna though. I've found it very hard to be "countered" in lane

[MrZepher]

Has anyone tried doing the Runaan's Kalista thing? I've read about it, but haven't really encountered it yet.

It's stupid broken but you're worthless on your own until you get a damage item. You just need a support who can hold them in your range long enough for you to get E stacks and keep them from bursting you.
It's weakest post 6 where the enemy laners will have BF and you'll just have a vamp and hurricane parts, but if you have a Braum Nami or Janna it's negligible. I haven't tried that lane with a Sona or Soraka yet. Once you have a full hurricane you can just shove waves and bypass the standard trading and look to all in with ult.

If you can get to the point where you have Runaans, boots and a bt you're pretty much set. I don't know what her 6 item is supposed to look like since all the games I've played have ended before I needed to figure out what slot Runaans is filling.

If you have no idea why you'd go first item hurricane: Your E and Passive scales off of Attack speed basically (movespeed scales the distance), and once you get 6-8 stacks on a good portion of the enemy team you can do some serious damage.

edit: I'm pretty sure that Runaans fills last whisper actually; But you don't want to pick Kalista into a double tank comp anyways? so I don't think that's a problem. Last whisper has turned into a 4th item in most builds anyways in this meta.

edit edit: You use either IE or Last Whisper as your damage scaler depending on what comp you're playing against, but it will be your 5th item either way.

[FakeGod]

Alright, played some Gragas with AI and I have few thoughts.

WTF is up with his ridiculously long casting animation???

Straight AP stacking seems to be suboptimal. (do I even max Q first??)

I think I'm going to try pseudo AP tank build I run on Malphite.

[animorpherv1]

So, with the new season, I feel like most of my picks became pretty trash.

Suggest 3 picks for every lane, please.

[Voidedmafia]

Top: Rumble, Gnar, J4, Maokai for a tank specialist.
Jung: Lee Sin, J4...uh, Rek? (iunno Jung)
Mid: Ori, Azir, Jayce
ADC: Corki, Ez, Lucian
Sup: Thresh, Janna, Braum

Admittedly I'm just listing off what I'm aware is meta right now, but most of those are solid picks regardless.

[MrZepher]

Top: Lissandra, Gnar, Jarvan for initiators; Rek'Sai, Sion, Jax for fighters
Mid: Anything goes. Seriously. Assassins just get banned because they're annoying. Lissandra, Leblanc and Cassiopeia are my go-tos.
Jungler: Everything works with the correct mastery setup. Nautilus, Panthon, Jarvan and Rek'sai are the ones I've seen do the most. I play a lot of Rengar too.
Carries: Graves is the only decent caster carry, everything else is nerfed. Because of this Right clickers like Jinx and Caitlyn are a lot stronger. Khalista, Draven, and Sivir are really good right now.
Supports: Same picks have always been good. Just depends on what you want to do. Janna, Zyra, Nami and Thresh are my go-tos.

I have opinions on Janna and her skill requirements but I'll save everyone the potential salt and say that she's getting the ol' 6 straight patches of nerfs soon. Praise be.

[MrZepher]

somebody that isn't me do me a favor:
try Muramana/Frozen gauntlet on Varus.

I've been able to make it work pretty decently but I'm not sure if it's because the people I'm playing against are bad or if the Varus pick is winning the matchups or if it's actually pretty good.
the question after that is whether or not Essence reaver is a better choice than BotRK (for the CDR, not the mana restore).

basically your goal is to just stack like the dickens and then proc with a spell and slow to do the same thing. The reason why I'm trying it is to see if it's possible to abuse Varus' Q range and damage without getting destroyed by bruisers in team fights.

[FakeGod]

Holy crap

this is amazing Jinx Cosplay Voice Acting