NY 179: Cute and Fluffy Mafia (Town Win)


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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:47 am

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What do you think of me?
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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:55 am

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Not much of an ISO to go off of and Dude (a town read) wanted you dead when he thought he was dayvig'ed. Since you're apparently more actively reading this thread than I thought you would be based off your ISO, what are your current thoughts about your neighborhood?
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:55 am

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I'm definitely not worried that 2 Votes will come in, I'm threatening anyone who plans on it. This has been a pretty slow game with a heap load of prods and 2 players who had to be replaced out before posting. We're about a week from the deadline and you just got here. We still need a 3rd replacement, but at least there's some content to go off of with that slot. In spite of the fact that I've been harping on pen this entire game, only recently have Votes started coming in. I didn't want anyone to get overly excited and pop off too soon, ridding us of
any
posts by your slot.

I would agree with DGB's sentiment that a QuickHammer before you started posting would be all but ConfScum. We still have a bit of time and there have been a few players jumping onto the Wagon with 0 reasoning. That in and of itself isn't really concerning me, but a Hammer would have eliminated your presence on D1 entirely. This would not be a Town action. Scum don't care if you post, they already know your alignment.

re: Nero- Meh. I'm largely ambivalent on Nero. In spite of the insistence of others, I'm not convinced that there has to be Scum in the Hood. He's been mostly under the radar, but is taking some stances. If I had to give a Read, I'd say NullTown.

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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:09 am

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how come you have similar avatars
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:13 am

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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:27 am

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Flubbernugget and firebound12 have been prodded.
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:32 am

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VOTE: dgb
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:39 am

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In post 460, d3x wrote:
In post 411, Kid A wrote:-holding on to his penwin vote without developing his case past a flimsy cognitive dissonance thingy
This point interests me in particular. pen hadn't posted in between my laying out my case and the time you made this assertion. What exactly would you have me to do to develop my case when the target isn't posting?e]
Also, thoughts on the penWagon, plz.
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:18 am

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In post 545, Kthxbye wrote:Can you wait till some questions are answered?


ABR is scum in this game. He is rushing way too much. It's artificial.
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:26 am

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In post 552, d3x wrote:Did I get them all?

Yar
In post 558, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 545, Kthxbye wrote:Can you wait till some questions are answered?


ABR is scum in this game. He is rushing way too much. It's artificial.

Have you viewed his meta?
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:26 am

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re ABR's meta: Can you find me a scum game of his where he does this D1?
If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:44 am

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In post 553, Albert B. Rampage wrote:how come you have similar avatars

They're in a cheater cult.
What does you asking what something that doesn't have anything to do with scumhunting has to do with scumhunting have to do with scumhunting?
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:41 am

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In post 552, d3x wrote:re: Nero- Meh. I'm largely ambivalent on Nero. In spite of the insistence of others, I'm not convinced that there has to be Scum in the Hood.


Maybe all three of you are scum and there is no hood.
What does you asking what something that doesn't have anything to do with scumhunting has to do with scumhunting have to do with scumhunting?
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:09 pm

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In post 549, Kthxbye wrote:More of an in depth skim than full read. I was confused for a minute why you were calling "pen" scum while voting killa, but then realized they were one in the same later.

I'll read up real quick in detail.

-I see in p250, you saw what I saw from a quick killa ISO.
-p344 is where I got the hood with at least you, dude, and garmr in it. Later (p490) I see it's Nero, dude, and you with Garmr faking a dayvig to out it. You think Dude is town for it but now I'm interested in your thoughts on Nero. This matters since if we can read it as a town block, that's to our advantage. From your ISO revolving around this, I'm getting strong town vibes from you unless BOTH of you and Dude were scum, which I agree with your reasoning why he's not and the fact that you pointed it out makes me get warm fuzzies from you as well. Make sense?

There, that's a full ISO read.

I have 2 of the hood as town for the way it came out and what was posted surrounding it. Now, how about your Nero read (along with the above quesitons)?

dragonspawn wrote:I'm finding kth to be town so far. I like what I've seen so much.

What if I told you that this is completely opposite of my town meta in Large games?


then I'd be watching you a bit closely because arguing that this isn't your town game would make no sense really. Hence why I would have to figure it out.

it's still early. Just giving my first impression that's all.
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:10 pm

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In post 556, Kid A wrote:VOTE: dgb


why?
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:11 pm

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In post 562, FakedBlogger wrote:
In post 552, d3x wrote:re: Nero- Meh. I'm largely ambivalent on Nero. In spite of the insistence of others, I'm not convinced that there has to be Scum in the Hood.


Maybe all three of you are scum and there is no hood.


quite possible for though unlikely. I was in a hood before were three of us were scum from different teams.
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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:12 pm

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In post 557, d3x wrote:
In post 460, d3x wrote:
In post 411, Kid A wrote:-holding on to his penwin vote without developing his case past a flimsy cognitive dissonance thingy
This point interests me in particular. pen hadn't posted in between my laying out my case and the time you made this assertion. What exactly would you have me to do to develop my case when the target isn't posting?e]
Also, thoughts on the penWagon, plz.

you expressed support for a tda lynch but then didnt join a big wagon on tda, i dont understand why you held on to a flimsy lone vote at this point in the game instead of switching to a wagon on someone you thought could be scum. my problem was more with you illogically holding your vote instead of failing to develop the case further

i havent had the opportunity to read a few pages yet but once i have i will tell you what i think of the pen wagon
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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:07 pm

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In post 560, Kthxbye wrote:re ABR's meta: Can you find me a scum game of his where he does this D1?


It's hard to explain, really, just his tone is incredibly rushed instead of moving things along positively from a town perspective.
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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:55 pm

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@The Dream Weaver: Please replace me


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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:04 pm

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TheDudeAbides has been prodded.

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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:17 pm

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Ika replaces AlternateAccount.
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:25 pm

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disclaimer: im here on cross replace

someone want to fill me in?
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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:28 pm

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Hey ika how is it going?
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:48 pm

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In post 572, dragonspawn wrote:Hey ika how is it going?


been better you?
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:07 pm

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In post 566, Kid A wrote:you expressed support for a tda lynch but then didnt join a big wagon on tda, i dont understand why you held on to a flimsy lone vote at this point in the game instead of switching to a wagon on someone you thought could be scum. my problem was more with you illogically holding your vote instead of failing to develop the case further
I'm still having a bit of a hard time understanding what you would've had me do. I expressed support of the DudeWagon in the same post where I explained my case on pen. And for posterity sake, my support of the DudeWagon was...
In post 250, d3x wrote:DudeWagon is fine, I guess. penWagon would be infinitely better.
The Wagon was L-4 at this point, so I'm not completely sure of your perspective here. It's not like the penWagon wasn't going anywhere and the DudeWagon was gaining steam. Dude was pretty solidly up there and I was just starting to list my case. I also have an issue with you now saying that your issue wasn't 'failing to develop the case' considering that is pretty much verbatim the reason you listed in p. What gives?
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