You could be anyone II - Game Over

Ankamius · Post Post #5025 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:20 am

I'm way too disengaged from this game because nothing makes any sense anymore.

If Garmr's not SK, I'm just going to be mad that Rach got away with it.

jasonT1981 · Post Post #5026 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:50 am

Official Vote Count

Garmr

(1): StrangerCoug

StrangerCoug

(1): Garmr

Not Voting

(3): Nachomamma8, RachMarie, Ankamius

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

(expired on 2015-01-21 13:29:36)

till Day 10 Deadline

RachMarie · Post Post #5027 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:47 am

Nacho

Why do you feel so strongly about Ank? I had a fairly strong town read on his pred, Mom.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #5028 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:52 am

RachMarie · Post Post #5029 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:00 am

Her ISO reads as someone trying to push the game forward, trying to cut through the BS that the Fee and Fae hydra was doing, and trying to get discussions moving. She was confident with her voting, and it did not seem like she was just switching from one vote to another vote based on who was most likely to be lynched, but that she was pushing people to get their butts in gear with discussion.

Which feels rather towny to me.

Garmr · Post Post #5030 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:56 am

In post 5022, Nachomamma8 wrote:Turning to emotional manipulation already?

yep of course anything to save town no matter how dirty I must be.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #5031 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:21 pm

You'd do better by town with more thinking and less strongarming. Strongarming alienates, thinking brings you closer to a sensible resolution.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #5032 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:25 pm

In post 5030, Garmr wrote:
In post 5022, Nachomamma8 wrote:Turning to emotional manipulation already?

yep of course anything to save town no matter how dirty I must be.

Do you see me doing dirty tricks to get you lynched, Garmr?

Garmr · Post Post #5033 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:30 pm

In post 5031, Nachomamma8 wrote:You'd do better by town with more thinking and less strongarming. Strongarming alienates, thinking brings you closer to a sensible resolution.

I have thought it through and nothing in anks iso indicates sk. Mollie basically eliminated her self form odd/even type sk situations and rach marie is a lot more town than strange cougar.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #5034 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:36 pm

In post 5033, Garmr wrote:nothing in anks iso indicates sk.

What about Mom's?
Do you have any specific things that make you think either are town, or is it just a lack of things that are SK indicative that make you think town?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #5035 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:38 pm

In post 5025, Ankamius wrote:I'm way too disengaged from this game because nothing makes any sense anymore.

If Garmr's not SK, I'm just going to be mad that Rach got away with it.

To me, there's clear motivation to set you up as the lynch today because SC isn't going to get lynched and it's going to be hard to attempt to lynch Rach through me. The fact that Ank is setting up a you-lynch now while seemingly expecting the townflip and simultaneously taking a lynch after the fact seems pretty SK-ish to me. I understand a mindset that finds someone wanting to chain lynch multiple players because they don't know for sure which the last one is, but this is worded like "I really think it's Garmr but maybe it's Rach" which seems strange to me.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #5036 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:38 pm

What do you think of that?

Garmr · Post Post #5037 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:49 pm

In post 5034, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5033, Garmr wrote:nothing in anks iso indicates sk.

What about Mom's?
Do you have any specific things that make you think either are town, or is it just a lack of things that are SK indicative that make you think town?

Lack of. Compared to strange cougar who seems a lot scummier.

In post 5035, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5025, Ankamius wrote:I'm way too disengaged from this game because nothing makes any sense anymore.

If Garmr's not SK, I'm just going to be mad that Rach got away with it.

To me, there's clear motivation to set you up as the lynch today because SC isn't going to get lynched and it's going to be hard to attempt to lynch Rach through me. The fact that Ank is setting up a you-lynch now while seemingly expecting the townflip and simultaneously taking a lynch after the fact seems pretty SK-ish to me. I understand a mindset that finds someone wanting to chain lynch multiple players because they don't know for sure which the last one is, but this is worded like "I really think it's Garmr but maybe it's Rach" which seems strange to me.

Yeh i could see that he thinks i'm town I kinda got that impression because this seemed really faked.

In post 5011, Ankamius wrote:My god is it really Garmr?

But nacho strange cougar

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #5038 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:53 pm

In post 5014, Ankamius wrote:Like Rach towntells so much but her thought processes and motivations reek no matter what I look at. If we're going to have to use both lynches we have, I can't suggest leaving Rach because there's no way I will ever have a strong read either way again.

There's also this with that same vibe.

Garmr · Post Post #5039 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:57 pm

I hate to admit it through but your case is better than my case.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #5040 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:58 pm

Also the shift from Rach scum --> Rach town --> Garmr scum is all sorts of unnatural.
He originally seemed to have a pretty strong scumread on Rach, then he didn't because she towntelled so hard, then he just railed hard against his second suspect instead of actually reanalyzing or believing that original suspect was town.

Garmr · Post Post #5041 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:01 pm

UNVOTE: sc

VOTE: ank

Ankamius · Post Post #5042 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:07 pm

In post 5027, RachMarie wrote:Nacho

Why do you feel so strongly about Ank? I had a fairly strong town read on his pred, Mom.

Nope. Don't try to pull this.

VOTE: RachMarie
VOTE: RachMarie
VOTE: RachMarie

StrangerCoug · Post Post #5043 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:14 pm

In post 5042, Ankamius wrote:
In post 5027, RachMarie wrote:Nacho

Why do you feel so strongly about Ank? I had a fairly strong town read on his pred, Mom.

Nope. Don't try to pull this.

VOTE: RachMarie
VOTE: RachMarie
VOTE: RachMarie

Nope. Don't try to pull this.

UNVOTE: Garmr
VOTE: Ankamius

That was a legit question from Rach.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #5044 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:15 pm

In post 5042, Ankamius wrote:
In post 5027, RachMarie wrote:Nacho

Why do you feel so strongly about Ank? I had a fairly strong town read on his pred, Mom.

Nope. Don't try to pull this.

VOTE: RachMarie
VOTE: RachMarie
VOTE: RachMarie

Don't try to pull... talking with a townread about a scumread she thinks is wrong?

Ankamius · Post Post #5045 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:16 pm

In post 3486, RachMarie wrote:
feeling pretty good about Ank he can go in my town pile
He also brings up a good point for those who say Mollie is the SK lynch her with fire, At this stage in a large game, having the double deaths works against the scum. Why look so hard for the SK? He or she may be antitown, but so far has done a lot to help with finding scum. If we get all the maf lynched or they get NKed by the SK, that helps town at this point, later we can catch the SK.

House you are off base but that is ok you keep thinking I am scum whilst I think you are, sooner or later we will know who is right Though why would you as town soft defend someone you think is scum, I have no clue on?

Anyone else you think is scum, or maybe some town reads?

This explanation is a lot more detailed than anything she ever put on Mom (literally nothing but "I think Mom is town" and "I disagree with you on HI") which indicates to me that it would stick out in her mind a lot more than anything Mom ever did, putting aside the fact that I replaced in day 2.

Add on that half the Mom-case is basically irrelevant and the rest can just as easily apply to an SK that's trying to scumhunt and you have a scum whiteknight in progress.

Ankamius · Post Post #5046 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:16 pm

Oh hey, I'm lynched.

Good luck in LyLo. Don't forget to kill Rach with fire.

Ankamius · Post Post #5047 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:16 pm

SC if you're town, that vote was complete garbage.

Ankamius · Post Post #5048 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:17 pm

Oh I'm not lynched, I thought Nacho was voting me.

Forget I said anything.

Ankamius · Post Post #5049 (ISO) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:18 pm

But no seriously, the Mom angle makes no sense and I don't get why she would try to go that angle as town.