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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:42 am

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Why is this day still going?

Look, I've given my opinion on this subject multiple times. We're not going to get anywhere today looking for "scum tells". They
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:45 am

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Sir Tornado wrote:JDodge, I don't think it's Ryan alone... everyone is to blame for this. I don't think we have actually started to hunt scum yet. Some arguments on "Whether to random lynch or not" and "Does the Game theory for this one differ from general game theory" occupy most of the past few threads. And, to tell you the truth, I haven't got the slightest idea where to start from.
Try starting with Ryan and/or Ksc0pe. It also looks like DYH is volunteering to be a place to start from.
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:50 am

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I've been "volunteering" since this day began, if you're implying that by disagreeing with your thoughts on scum tells in this game I'm an "idiot".

Fact is, there is
zero
incentive for the scum in this game (all SKs) to act
any differently
than a townie on day one. As I've pointed out before, until they hit another SK with a night kill attempt, any body will do. They don't care who dies, unless it's them. Unfortunately, the town isn't all going to line up and "volunteer" today either and leave us with just three people unwilling to take one for the team.
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:06 am

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Mastermind of Sin wrote:
Sir Tornado wrote:JDodge, I don't think it's Ryan alone... everyone is to blame for this. I don't think we have actually started to hunt scum yet. Some arguments on "Whether to random lynch or not" and "Does the Game theory for this one differ from general game theory" occupy most of the past few threads. And, to tell you the truth, I haven't got the slightest idea where to start from.
Try starting with Ryan and/or Ksc0pe. It also looks like DYH is volunteering to be a place to start from.
And why should we find you anymore innocent than anyone else? You've been trying to start up a bandwagon on me for quite awhile now with very little evidence. What's to stop us from voting you?
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:05 am

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I think MOS is the most pro-town player here, he's probably made the most posts, he's contributing a huge amount, and, I don't see how his case on you is BS either Ryan. MOS would be a horrible lynch IMO.
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:35 am

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Making the most posts and throwing around suspicions doesn't make you the most pro town.
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:38 am

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ryan wrote:Making the most posts and throwing around suspicions doesn't make you the most pro town.
He's contributing, as in asking questions, being curious etc. which is protown.
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:42 am

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Mastermind of Sin wrote:EBWOP: Since no one seems to agree with me about Ryan, I'll go to my second choice.
unvote, vote: Ksc0pe
I still find this quote to be curious at best. Basically it's saying "well I'll give the Ryan bandwagon one more chance and than I'll jump on somebody else and see if it flies" He's made some good comments and asked some decent questions but this one still makes me think he's searching for the best bandwagon.
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:01 am

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Yes, yes, I'm scum....

Now can we hammer someone?
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:02 am

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That was made when there was a deadline, so if no-one was going to agree with him about lynching you, he would want to put the vote somewhere useful.
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:03 am

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[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Yes, yes, I'm scum....

Now can we hammer someone?[/quote]

You preferably if you still refuse to post anything useful (assuming you're joking about saying you're scum).
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:09 am

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Day 1's are not usefull. All scumtells do not apply in this game. In general, trying to stir up discussion and attacking someone for what you think are "reasons" is scummy.
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:10 am

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[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]All scumtells do not apply in this game.[/quote]

That on it's own deserves a lynching, what utter crap.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:18 am

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[quote="JordanA24"][quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]All scumtells do not apply in this game.[/quote]

That on it's own deserves a lynching, what utter crap.[/quote]

It is WIFOM.

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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:25 am

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JordanA24 wrote:That was made when there was a deadline, so if no-one was going to agree with him about lynching you, he would want to put the vote somewhere useful.
So he could be looked upon as somebody who's willing to go with the flow? Instead of putting a vote on somebody he thinks is a SK he's going to put it on the more popular wagon? I find that very interesting.
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:27 am

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ryan wrote:
JordanA24 wrote:That was made when there was a deadline, so if no-one was going to agree with him about lynching you, he would want to put the vote somewhere useful.
So he could be looked upon as somebody who's willing to go with the flow? Instead of putting a vote on somebody he thinks is a SK he's going to put it on the more popular wagon? I find that very interesting.
No, there was a deadline upcoming, and he obviously wanted a lynch.
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:31 am

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Ok Jordan I understand, MoS is on your "defend till death list" I'll take my suspicion somewhere else. :roll:
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:33 am

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I'm just saying he's a poor lynch, that's all, no need to get sarcastic.
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:27 am

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JordanA24 wrote:
ryan wrote:
JordanA24 wrote:That was made when there was a deadline, so if no-one was going to agree with him about lynching you, he would want to put the vote somewhere useful.
So he could be looked upon as somebody who's willing to go with the flow? Instead of putting a vote on somebody he thinks is a SK he's going to put it on the more popular wagon? I find that very interesting.
No, there was a deadline upcoming, and he obviously wanted a lynch.
Ryan, in regard to these, MoS had said before that he believed no-lynch was a bad idea, therefore, near deadline he voted for someone to try and insure a lynch.
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:57 pm

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Not to mention the fact that there are
3 SKs
...ryan is one of them, but I have two more to find. Since Ksc0pe was a likely second SK, I had no problem voting him, when it seemed like people would be more willing to vote for him.
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:58 pm

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DYH wrote:I've been "volunteering" since this day began, if you're implying that by disagreeing with your thoughts on scum tells in this game I'm an "idiot".

Fact is, there is
zero
incentive for the scum in this game (all SKs) to act
any differently
than a townie on day one. As I've pointed out before, until they hit another SK with a night kill attempt, any body will do. They don't care who dies, unless it's them. Unfortunately, the town isn't all going to line up and "volunteer" today either and leave us with just three people unwilling to take one for the team.
No scum can play the "townie" act perfectly. They always slip up. It's idiocy to ignore everyone's actions and not look for that slip.
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:47 pm

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[quote="JordanA24"][quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]All scumtells do not apply in this game.[/quote]

That on it's own deserves a lynching, what utter crap.[/quote]OK, name me the sk-tells, preferably the ones for d1, now. If you fail to do so, you're crying utter crap and will receive my vote.
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:22 pm

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Long Overdue Vote Count


2 - Lowell (DYH, ryan)
1 - Rand Althor (theopor_COD)
2 - ryan (JDodge, bethelmark)
1 - DYH (Estes)
1 - Mastermind of Sin (ButteBlues)
2 - JDodge (Black-Moon, Lowell)
2 - JordanA24 (ChannelDelibird, Rand Althor)
4 - KaleiÐoscøpe (JordanA24, Mastermind of Sin, KaleiÐoscøpe, YogurtBandit)


3 - None (Sir Tornado, YagamiLight, Qman)

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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:52 pm

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[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Yes, yes, I'm scum....

Now can we hammer someone?[/quote]

plus

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Day 1's are not usefull. All scumtells do not apply in this game. In general, trying to stir up discussion and attacking someone for what you think are "reasons" is scummy.[/quote]

equals

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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:02 am

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[quote="MoS"]No scum can play the "townie" act perfectly. They always slip up. It's idiocy to ignore everyone's actions and not look for that slip.[/quote]

Wrong. Scum can't play the "townie" act perfectly as
mafia
because they are inherently tied to and biased regarding their partners. Serial Killers in general attempt to play just like town, and without fear of being NKed here have no incentive to do otherwise in this game.

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]OK, name me the sk-tells, preferably the ones for d1, now. If you fail to do so, you're crying utter crap and will receive my vote.[/quote]

The man makes a good statement.

Like I've been saying all along, we're not going to have much to work with until there's a missing NK.

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