In post 1238, Aneninen wrote:You're right, it's partly about your playstyle.But, you said that I might think it's anti-town. You also said that you have several playstyles. Need I explain how bad the situation is? You must know too that if we mislynch Today, there may be a LyLo Tomorrow. Why on Gods' Green Earth don't you choose a less anti-town playstyle?
Because
I am town....That made more sense in my head. Basically, I do this on instinct. I don't consciously choose a playstyle for a game and go, "hey, let's do that", and then suddenly stop doing it. (Except when I do. But even then, that's something that happened instinctively: the forced playstyle was dropped in favor of the more natural one, but the natural one was no more town than the forced one. My own fault, but
technically
speaking, I got mylo-mislynched off of it.)Simply put, my style is what I think works best for catching and lynching scum during a game (except when I'm deliberately forcing a style for reasons), but while it's something I think is right, the actual usage of it has no thought put into it; it just...well, is.
Also fact: my scumplay has, traditionally,Also, you were on both of the Davesaz and the Eyestott wagon, you were the one who pushed the Davesaz-wagon hardest. These are facts.
avoided
hard pushes unless I was desperate or actually believed what I was saying. (e.g. legitimately thinking AP was scum in Anything Goes, desperate to get a non-scum lynch in Attack on Titan.) You can track down any scumgame of mine. In any scumgame you find, I'll make a push, but I won't make it hard. (Well, with the exception of AP's bastard game, where I hardcore bussed D1. But I mainly did that, honestly, for the trollz, and because my scumbuddy sucked, and because I thought I could get away with it and ultimately did. And it was a bus anyway, meaning on all town lynches after that I was cruising and not nearly pushing as much.)Not-so-fact-based, of course, is the
reason
why, but it should follow fairly decently if you have a hold on me by now what drives that, and that's simple. Town-me doesn't give a damn. I'll push whoever I push, and I have absolutely no shame in making the push. I may regret the results OF the push, apologizing to players I have misread, but I will never. EVER. apologize for having made the push in the first place, because while ultimately wrong, I saw something and I pursued it and it gave me further information--good info or bad info--on the game, so there's nothing to be sorry for.ScuMastin, on the other hand, likes subtlety: avoiding the spotlight. Know what spearheading a mislynch does?
It draws attention to you
. Mostly negative attention. Why not let the town destroy itself? Why not let the town mislynch itself to oblivion by subtly planting the seeds of discord? This is, in fact, my modus operandi. I can now say that I've got a completed scumgame, theelkspeak's faith plus one. I only came in for lylo, but even there you can see it: I didn't push DGB hard. I let the town become doubtful of themselves. And used that to ultimately be positioned to hammer DGB, something I couldn't have done if I had pushed her. It's a bad example because it was too brief of one, but it's the most recent. Left 4 Dead is the go-to example. In it, I basically directly caused PeregrineV (town) to fakeclaim a guilty on BBMolla (the town cop), outing Molla AS said cop, all because of the actions I had pulled that placed the seed of doubt in him. I subtly directed attention onto Molla with some of my trolling. (Among them? Molla had a guilty on me but never claimed it. I claimed scum in-thread
the moment I saw it, though. ACTIVELY. CLAIMED. SCUM. And one of my trolling posts, I "slipped" a message that was "supposed" to be a PM to the mod about my "scumbuddy" Molla faking a guilty on me. The wifom of why scum would roll over and die, least of all ME, ate at PV.) My pushes were never made strongly, because I didn't want to give the town info. (I deliberately made myself a sacrificial lamb as to allow my team to win--we did. Handedly, once the cop was outed.)PoE lynches, no. AN PoE lynch, yes. Singular. Tean is my POE candidate for the lynch. I think they're scum by POE, thus, could lynch them--if they're"with Tean as an outside possibility who may or may not be scum, but whose lynch would provide further POE on the scum."– I don't like this. We don't have time for PoE lynches.
not
scum, then it means we went wrong somewhere, have that info available, and can reassess, further honing in on the scum via POE. It's not my preferred
strategy because the outcome is not nearly as beneficial either way in my opinion. It IS, however, a viable
Because I'm actually trying to work with you and not against you?You said that we're "fairly synergetic players". And if I dropped my scumread on you we could work together. You might say the truth, but I strongly think that you want to fool me. Why are you telling this to me? Why not to your other townreads?
Well, I AM trying to work with Anti, but he's annoyingly not around often enough to respond. Wicked I am interacting with, but while I townread him, I don't think we have synergy at all--frankly, he and I have basically opposite reads. Similarly, while beast is a townread, I don't think there's much I can gain by working with him, largely because I don't think there's any way we can really work together that well.To Heartless, Wicked, or maybe Beast?
Push come to shove, I can probably strongarm beast and Heartless into helping me lynch basically any player; they'd likely be willing to trust me enough to sheep given it's not lylo. I can obtain a lynch without working with others; I hold the skills necessary to lead a town, and sort-of already have. It is, however, not my preference. I HATE dominating over a town. What I prefer doing is working
with
the other members of the town, and the greater the synergy...the easier that is....Thus, you.
No shit I'd like you to drop the scumread of me. I'm town, wanting to work with you, and if you keep on thinking I'm scum, you're inherently sabotaging your own efforts to work with me whether you realize it or not.I wish I didn't think that you would like me to drop my scumread on you.
Fairly easy victory for me. Like I said, town basically destroyed itself. Most of my work was already done; all I had to do was to make myself not obvscum, which was easily accomplished by letting the town fight and not pushing hard myself.By the way, I saw Copper fake-claiming in another game (although they had Nightkilled me before). The scums won, we hardly had any chance.
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you are dead either way.