NY 179: Cute and Fluffy Mafia (Town Win)

FakedBlogger · Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:52 pm

In post 1099, Randomnamechange wrote:Scum on my wagon are pribably in NJ/dragonspawn/dgb.
If I get lynched please look at Nero, AA and dgb.
Iai, peacebringer, telltale, Ika and d3x are fairly confident town.
There is definitely scum pushing either mine or dgbs wagon. Whichever of us gets lynched examine the wagon tomorrow.

Yeah, you could hurl out a bunch of unjustified reads or you could start analyzing your wagon now. Since you already know your alignment you're like us from the future

FakedBlogger · Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:19 am

In post 1090, Garmr wrote:@telltaleheart
I'm a true blue-blooded mafia scum player while dragonspawn is just green so I can tell his town.

What about pen?

In post 1070, Kthxbye wrote:
In post 1065, FakedBlogger wrote:Not until you apologize for that last sentence

Not gonna happen. I'm not clear on your mindset and thus you should be happy to explain it if you're town.

I am, if you apologize. You should be eager to know what my mindset was if you are town so you will, if you are town.

In post 1070, Kthxbye wrote:[quote="In

In post 738, FakedBlogger wrote:@Kthx Why do you assume scum wouldn't give legitish reasons to lynch a townie?

I assume nothing. I do know however that scum have to fake every reason given to jump on a towns wagon so they often have less thought out/legitish reasons for their votes. It's how I hunt for scum...see RM.

RM is a lurker/nrp. Do you want me to believe you've applied your scumhunting formula in this game and haven't found a worthier candidate?

In post 1070, Kthxbye wrote:[quote="In

In post 871, FakedBlogger wrote:Do you think bias is a scumtell?

It's certainly not a scum-tell, BUT it can be faked pretty easily. Town often show confirmation bias, hell, I'm prolly doing the same about RM...difference is, I'm prolly right about RM and you're prolly wrong about d3x.

I wasn't talking about confirmation bias. I was talking about you accusing me of being scummy for having a post that doesn't have anything to do with scumhunting while fucking Garmr unloaded a bunch of them, one of which was the direct cause for mine.

Garmr · Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:22 am

^Probally bias as anyone who can see my history knows I chuck them in every once in a while no matter my alignment. Pen is scum.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:07 am

In post 1099, Randomnamechange wrote:There is definitely scum pushing either mine or dgbs wagon.

Then you're probably town.

I think this is a case of the lurksacks being unlynchable, and only the players that post being under scrutiny, and getting votes. The strategy really pays off, the scum will lurk their way to the win.

Whenever there is talk of lynching a lurker, there are a few players oozing out of the floor board to defend the lurker's town credentials, based on what? Only the devil knows, they are lurkers exactly to make it difficult for the rest of us to read them.

UNVOTE:

If you guys won't lynch lurkers, enjoy losing to scum. It's not going to be my fault, because I tried to lynch lurkers and no, you all want to lynch active players instead.

I'll be delighted to be today's lynch under these circumstances.

Oh and I'm vanilla and I don't care.

PeaceBringer · Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:21 am

In post 1082, DrippingGoofball wrote:I like his posts, why, am I missing something?

Why are
you
voting IAI? I iso'd to find your reasons, I didn't find any. Did I skim too quickly?

my reason is I suspect him...
reasons for my suspiscions, I am intuitive and the way he is reacting triggers my internal alarms...
since you have play with me/skot before within the past year, um, you should know that...

PeaceBringer · Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:25 am

In post 1104, PeaceBringer wrote:
In post 1082, DrippingGoofball wrote:I like his posts, why, am I missing something?

Why are
you
voting IAI? I iso'd to find your reasons, I didn't find any. Did I skim too quickly?

my reason is I suspect him...
reasons for my suspiscions, I am intuitive and the way he is reacting triggers my internal alarms...
since you have play with me/skot before within the past year, um, you should know that...

never fear though, I am done with questioning you, I am now going to prod/pick at IAI a bit...

PeaceBringer · Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:28 am

SO IAI, please tell me why I flipped from a town read in your view to someone you "jump" on as the wagon. What changed for you?
Why were you willing to jump on Killapen if DGB did?

PeaceBringer · Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:30 am

In post 605, I Am Innocent wrote:
In post 602, Garmr wrote:
In post 601, killapenwin wrote:When someone can actually summarise why I am being lynched (before I claimed tracker) without citing a dozen posts then maybe I will get back into the game. Otherwise this is pretty much it for me.

Did you crumb the role.

This

also please explain the intent of this post...
I have to look to see if you ended up on lynch...

PeaceBringer · Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:32 am

nope, no vote for IAI but subtely pushed for the wagon to continue and him not to believed.
You come out with a disjointed vote on me after pointing out mod missed SC vote...
Please explain your actions if you are town, TIA.

Serene2 · Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:37 am

In post 1104, PeaceBringer wrote:since you have play with me/skot before within the past year, um, you should know that...

I replaced in a game where you were dead already and I have played with SKOT very little.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:37 am

In post 1109, Serene2 wrote:
In post 1104, PeaceBringer wrote:since you have play with me/skot before within the past year, um, you should know that...

I replaced in a game where you were dead already and I have played with SKOT very little.

quoting hydra slip

PeaceBringer · Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:40 am

In post 1110, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1109, Serene2 wrote:
In post 1104, PeaceBringer wrote:since you have play with me/skot before within the past year, um, you should know that...

I replaced in a game where you were dead already and I have played with SKOT very little.

quoting hydra slip

we have played as I remember you distinctly...

PeaceBringer · Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:41 am

In post 1111, PeaceBringer wrote:
In post 1110, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1109, Serene2 wrote:
In post 1104, PeaceBringer wrote:since you have play with me/skot before within the past year, um, you should know that...

I replaced in a game where you were dead already and I have played with SKOT very little.

quoting hydra slip

we have played as I remember you distinctly...

maybe you are just more memorable to me then I am to you, I guess

TellTaleHeart · Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:41 am

In post 1103, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1099, Randomnamechange wrote:There is definitely scum pushing either mine or dgbs wagon.

Then you're probably town.

I think this is a case of the lurksacks being unlynchable, and only the players that post being under scrutiny, and getting votes. The strategy really pays off, the scum will lurk their way to the win.

Whenever there is talk of lynching a lurker, there are a few players oozing out of the floor board to defend the lurker's town credentials, based on what? Only the devil knows, they are lurkers exactly to make it difficult for the rest of us to read them.

UNVOTE:

If you guys won't lynch lurkers, enjoy losing to scum. It's not going to be my fault, because I tried to lynch lurkers and no, you all want to lynch active players instead.

I'll be delighted to be today's lynch under these circumstances.

Oh and I'm vanilla and I don't care.

If you want to lynch a lurker, I'd be down for Nero Cain.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:54 am

I will literally vote any lurker in any game at any time. I have it up to HERE with the lurkers.

VOTE: Nero Cain

TellTaleHeart · Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:20 am

The most troublesome part of Nero's play is how the neighborhood dynamic is factoring into it's play, or rather how it's not. The early-game argument with TDA, summarized in Post 375, over what apparently happened in the neighborhood PT noticeably didn't yield a tangible

read

on TDA. The interactions with TDA, contained in Post 136, Post 375, Post 381, Post 385, Post 387, Post 391, and Post 687, are mostly concerned with defense and nitpicking at TDA's argument. Definitive reads or judgments about either d3x or TDA's alignments are completely absent and that is

not

what I would expect from someone who has an extra PT conversation going with them. Furthermore, it doesn't look like he's attempting to refine those reads at all, opting for votes on the ika policy lynch wagon and the randomidget wagon. And for all the tunneling on IAI, the case just isn't there.

As a side note, I think the overall neighborhood dynamic that Nero Cain, d3x, and TheDudeAbides have going here is very usual and counter-intuitive. The only distrust is that TDA is scum reading Nero Cain, but there's a distinct lack of synergy between the three players when it comes to reads and voting. They don't move as a block, which is what I would expect to see from 3 players who mostly trust each other who share a PT. The read from d3x on Nero Cain feels really off too, in Post 552. Since Nero Cain doesn't

really

have any solid stances, this is a really strained angle to give Nero a null-town read and I think it demonstrates a lack of skepticism on d3x's part I would expect to see in a town neighbor. I also think the reaction in Post 351 to TDA and Nero's argument is awkward because it downplays the importance of what TDA's concerns about Nero. I think it's more likely for the purpose of smoothing everything over and deflecting attention away from the goings on the neighborhood than trying to get to establish a more solid read on either Nero or TDA.

I think there's a good chance both Nero Cain and d3x are scum.

VOTE: Nero Cain

Nero Cain · Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:45 am

vote:ika

i know that its "hypocritical" since I am lurking but I think IKA is probs scum here.

TellTaleHeart · Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:49 am

ika already admitted to only doing this as a cross-replacement and has demonstrated a lack of investment in the game. Anything else?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:52 am

vote nero cain

Nero Cain · Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:53 am

your vote is in the wrong place.

but also IKA being a crossreplace has nothing to do with his alignment.

TellTaleHeart · Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:08 am

Neither does the lurking.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:09 am

I think lurking is well within his scummeta.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:12 am

In post 1121, Nero Cain wrote:I think lurking is well within his scummeta.

YES

Nero Cain · Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:37 am

so vote him with me.

d3x · Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:55 am

@TT- p351 didn't really have anything to do with the argument between Nero and Dude. Did you read it in context to the discussion or just in an Iso? p351 is the rationale for my TownRead on Dude in response to the questions of Jogger and Garmr. If you want my take on the discussion in the Hood, you should read p482.