Mafia v. Wolves Redux: Finally Over!

[The Fonz]

The Fonz, the difference is that your only justification for keeping N9V around is his cop claim, otherwise he's a giant neutral to you. I was already defending Akbar because of the tone I got from his posts (and because of the tone I saw from his attackers); in fact you'll noticed in post 1565 that I was certain enough of Akbar's protownishness that I thought something else was going on. In other words, I'm giving reasons other than "Akbar is a power role" to keep him around; you seem to be slavishly going "must defend claimed power role".

Last time I checked, I believe it was usually incumbent on players to find reasons

to

lynch, not to find reasons not to. He's a claimed cop, I haven't seen any particular scumtells from him, and it's still entirely possible he's telling the truth. Why should I support his lynch? Especially when those pushing his lynch (mostly BM and Akbar at the time) were using such obvious craplogic. Do you not agree that using craplogic and mispresenting things to get a claimed power role lynched are things that ought to concern a town player?

[TBuG]

Okay, I'll vouch for the following things:

Akbar IS telling the truth about not being able to do something last night.

MoS made the Werewolves' kill last night.

Shanba made a kill last night.

~N9V~is either the cop or the mafioso who made last night's kill.

One of two people whom

I will not reveal

unless necessary probably made the Mafia kill last night.

I can't find what happened Night 2, so I'll get it from the mod, but I won't reveal anything that has the potential to help the scum significantly.

[The Fonz]

What's everyone's thoughts on a massclaim today?

[Kison]

Wait till tomorrow.

[The Fonz]

That's probably best. The only concern I would have is that we definitely need PBuG alive for a massclaim to work. Still, I suppose even if Akbar's lying, there's still the possibility of another doc.

[Kison]

I'd rather us risk PBuG's death than put all that info out there prematurely. I think with Akbar being the healer, PBuG should be fine tonight, unless Akbar is roleblocked, which is actually quite possible now that I think about it.

[The Fonz]

If there's a real possibility of roleblock,(I, too, had overlooked that) then we should reveal the information, perhaps prematurely, rather than risk losing it. Given that we have a claimed cop, doc, and runesmith, plus the likelihood that DGB was some kind of anti-wolf powerrole, I think we're likely to end up outing more scum than useful town roles.

[Phoebus]

Vote Count:

1 ~N9V~ (Battle Mage)
1 Akbar (Fuldu)
2 bird1111 (Kison, Thok)

4 Battle Mage (~N9V~, Akbar, PBuG, theopor_COD)

1 PBuG (Raffles)
1 Thok (The Fonz)

3 not voting: bird1111, Lowell, The Greg

7 to lynch, 4 at deadline

Deadline 2: Monday the 9th of July, 1700 GMT

Final deadline up. I think this day has gone on long enough.

[TBuG]

Unvote, Vote: bird1111

Guess why?

[Thok]

Given what PBug's said, I see no reason to move my vote.

[Fuldu]

unvote: Akbar; vote: bird1111

At the very least, this will force him to say something.

[theopor_COD]

Unvote, Vote: bird1111

Guess why?

Doesn't take a genius.

One of two people whom

I will not reveal

unless necessary probably made the Mafia kill last night.

I guess Bird may aswell skip his long awaited re-read and explain what he was up to . . . mind being as he has only 5 days till deadline he best be quick.

I'm still unhappy with BM getting a free pass. The thread has passed me by recently so I need to read in detail the Akbar/Fonz/PBug exchange.

[Thok]

Also, given what PBug has said, a birdscum lynch should help us figure out what's going on with the whole Mafia/ESE thing (as we know he didn't commit the wolf-kill, as MOS did that).

Phoebus

can we get prods on BM, N9V, The Greg, Lowell, Raffles, and bird1111?

[The Fonz]

Unvote, vote Bird1111.

If PBuG is getting at what I think he is.

[The Fonz]

Oh, and second the machinegun prodding request.

[~N9V~]

I'm here. Just ntothing for me to post on really.

[The Fonz]

Come off it. Are you really telling me there's nothing worthy of comment in the last several pages of dialogue?

[~N9V~]

Heh, I mean nothing for me. Your trying to decide who to lynch, and i thinkbird is a badidea. I thinkBM should be lynched, for obvious resons. Other than that, your still trying to decide wether or not I'm the real deal. Like i said, nothing to comment on in my perspective.

[Thok]

Heh, I mean nothing for me. Your trying to decide who to lynch, and i thinkbird is a badidea. I thinkBM should be lynched, for obvious resons. Other than that, your still trying to decide wether or not I'm the real deal. Like i said, nothing to comment on in my perspective.

Dear ~N9V~,

Please stop being the most worthless person ever in the history of online mafia.

Thank you,

Thok

(On a serious note, do you have reason to believe that PBug is lying about or misinterpreting his info? Or do you have any reason to believe that bird1111 is town?)

[~N9V~]

Dear ~N9V~,

Please stop being the most worthless person ever in the history of online mafia.

Thank you,

Thok

Ouch, I still am trying to learn that one part of my game, not being completely worthless. Also, not always looking like scum.

(On a serious note, do you have reason to believe that PBug is lying about or misinterpreting his info? Or do you have any reason to believe that bird1111 is town?)

Honestly, I don't know. WIth PBuG's claim, I'm guessing he's the witch (Sorry, I only read back 5 pages, so he may have said this before). The only reason why i think his vote's on bird, is because that was one of the two people, and he's garunteed that he made a NK.

Ofcourse, there is always the chance that he is misinterperating it, but with PBuG, that is very unlikly (skill-wise that is).

But i have two questions for PBuG: 1) Couldn't you tell wether or not I was role-blocked last night? 2) Do you have anything confirming BM's side in this game?

[The Greg]

No prod necessary, I'm here. Just confused as hell. I'll go back and reread and attempt to organize my discordant thoughts.

[theopor_COD]

I'm thinking whatever Bird was up to Night 2, he isn't going to tell us before the end of play/deadline. A prod would be nice, but even then, I expect very little to flow from his tongue due to his previous lurk happy play.

[~N9V~]

I'm going to be away forthe next 2 weeks, give or take a few days (with mabey one day on internet access on Monday) and I won't beable to get on MS for that time. So if you feel the need, you may find a replacement. And I'm willing to take back over once I'm back from vacation.

[~N9V~]

Well, err it's not garunteed that I'm going. I may stay home. Will post on Monday for sure what my plans are. If I don;t then I'm gone.

[Battle Mage]

ouch N9V is taking more shit than i do...
N9V, just between me and you, do you have a fetish for cop claims?