New York 180 (Endgame)

[Klingoncelt]

It seems like every time vikingfan gets a vote, someone else comes along and throws down a vote for dragonspawn.

They should stop doing that. Poor guy always gets read as scum and lynched early.

[Aeronaut]

Could you like a game where that happened?

[SilverWolf]

It seems like every time vikingfan gets a vote, someone else comes along and throws down a vote for dragonspawn.

They should stop doing that. Poor guy always gets read as scum and lynched early.

The term for that is lynchbait but I'm still trying to figure out why he's scummier than vikingfan.......................

[SilverWolf]

Could you like a game where that happened?

I think she's talking about offsite, we tend to lynch him early.

[acryon]

The only other person I would consider switching to would be acryon, for his #401. It felt like mafia trying to egg on bad analysis, especially since he didn't really seem to follow it up with anything.

So you don't think there was anything wrong with that line in Dragon's post?

That being said, my vote is still on vikingfan, because his posts have looked much worse than dragon's. I've got an FoS on dragon though.

I'm still trying to figure out why he's scummier than vikingfan.......................

Yeah, he isn't.

So looking at the votes:
Boon was the first to vote dragon
Pisskop sheeps Boon’s reason
Grib adds to vikingfan
Aero adds to dragon for the same reason as Boon and pisskop
Vikingfan jumps on dragon
Klingon places his vote for vikingfan (although the intent was clearly there already)
House jumps on, stating he is sheeping
Kitz jumps on vikingfan for disliking the way he addressed the dragon wagon (which has a nice ring to it
Nakedjogger jumps on dragon for being defensive

Giving us the following VC for those two (pretty sure):

vikingfan

: acryon, SilverWolf, dragonspawn, Grib, Klingon, House, Kitz [L-4]

Dragonspawn

: Boonskiies, Pisskop, Aeronaut, vikingfan, Nakedjogger [L-6]

The dragonspawn wagon certainly smells like a counterwagon to a scum wagon. If it is, I suspect Aeronaut the most on the counterwagon (and of course vikingfan). Came in third on the wagon only after it clearly had a little traction and just sheeped Boon's reasoning (which isn't bad in and of itself, but it's hard to tell if Aero had his own reasons).

[dragonspawn]

VOTE: vikingfan

Sheeping my neigh...ing horse!

Interesting.

It was either him or you. Fortunately for you, I place more stock in the reads of others than I do my own.

We'll see how it pans out.

Oh that's not what I found interesting.

I'm starting to think you are prob town but I'm not totally sure.

Why are you even leaning that way?

You never even consider the possibility that I'm town.

Starting to wonder if I made the right choice. <_<

I quoted the post that was pushing me that direction.

and I am sure wolf would seriously disagree with you that I never town read you.

[FakedBlogger]

Why does that make him scum instead of insecure?

I wouldn't know what to do with that notion.

[FakedBlogger]

It makes him scum because he himself listed defensiveness as a possible scumtell. Along with that OMGUSy post we've got ourselves a good Day1 lynch.

[House]

Can't argue with that, but he needs to wait for d2.

vikingfan dies today. His flip will tell me more about whether dragon should be a consideration.

[FakedBlogger]

@vikingfan are you lynchbait?

[House]

(Psst: dragonspawn is certifiable lynchbain. Hence my reluctance to join his wagon despite my own interest in voting for him)

[House]

lynchbait*

Sheesh, my right index finger is unruly.

[dragonspawn]

It makes him scum because he himself listed defensiveness as a possible scumtell. Along with that OMGUSy post we've got ourselves a good Day1 lynch.

where did I list defensiveness as a scum tell?

[FakedBlogger]

(Psst: dragonspawn is certifiable lynchbain. Hence my reluctance to join his wagon despite my own interest in voting for him)

Atm viking looks more like lynchbait to me.

It makes him scum because he himself listed defensiveness as a possible scumtell. Along with that OMGUSy post we've got ourselves a good Day1 lynch.

where did I list defensiveness as a scum tell?

#398 At least that's how I read it in context.

[House]

(Psst: dragonspawn is certifiable lynchbain. Hence my reluctance to join his wagon despite my own interest in voting for him)

Atm viking looks more like lynchbait to me.

Which supports a D1 viking lynch.

If he flips scum, it will ease my mind considerably about dragonspawn, because scum simply chose an easy target to draw heat away from their buddy.

If he flips town, it will get rid of a distraction and allow us to look for the actual scum instead of argue throughout the game.

Barring a player posting, "Hai guyz, I iz scumlol", viking's lynch is the most useful.

[acryon]

(Psst: dragonspawn is certifiable lynchbain. Hence my reluctance to join his wagon despite my own interest in voting for him)

Atm viking looks more like lynchbait to me.

What do you make of the counter-wagon?

[dragonspawn]

(Psst: dragonspawn is certifiable lynchbain. Hence my reluctance to join his wagon despite my own interest in voting for him)

Atm viking looks more like lynchbait to me.

It makes him scum because he himself listed defensiveness as a possible scumtell. Along with that OMGUSy post we've got ourselves a good Day1 lynch.

where did I list defensiveness as a scum tell?

#398 At least that's how I read it in context.

And yet I haven't made a determination in either direction whether boon is scum or town so how can it be a scum tell in context?

[SilverWolf]

That being said, my vote is still on vikingfan, because his posts have looked much worse than dragon's. I've got an FoS on dragon though.

I'm still trying to figure out why he's scummier than vikingfan.......................

Yeah, he isn't.

So looking at the votes:
Boon was the first to vote dragon
Pisskop sheeps Boon’s reason
Grib adds to vikingfan
Aero adds to dragon for the same reason as Boon and pisskop
Vikingfan jumps on dragon
Klingon places his vote for vikingfan (although the intent was clearly there already)
House jumps on, stating he is sheeping
Kitz jumps on vikingfan for disliking the way he addressed the dragon wagon (which has a nice ring to it
Nakedjogger jumps on dragon for being defensive

Giving us the following VC for those two (pretty sure):

vikingfan

: acryon, SilverWolf, dragonspawn, Grib, Klingon, House, Kitz [L-4]

Dragonspawn

: Boonskiies, Pisskop, Aeronaut, vikingfan, Nakedjogger [L-6]

The dragonspawn wagon certainly smells like a counterwagon to a scum wagon. If it is, I suspect Aeronaut the most on the counterwagon (and of course vikingfan). Came in third on the wagon only after it clearly had a little traction and just sheeped Boon's reasoning (which isn't bad in and of itself, but it's hard to tell if Aero had his own reasons).

I completely agree with this analysis. vikingfan's lynch would be most informative because if he flips scum, we can look at the votes on dragon's wagon like Aero and pisskop more closely. If he flips town, dragon would be a good D2 vote.

[House]

That being said, my vote is still on vikingfan, because his posts have looked much worse than dragon's. I've got an FoS on dragon though.

I'm still trying to figure out why he's scummier than vikingfan.......................

Yeah, he isn't.

So looking at the votes:
Boon was the first to vote dragon
Pisskop sheeps Boon’s reason
Grib adds to vikingfan
Aero adds to dragon for the same reason as Boon and pisskop
Vikingfan jumps on dragon
Klingon places his vote for vikingfan (although the intent was clearly there already)
House jumps on, stating he is sheeping
Kitz jumps on vikingfan for disliking the way he addressed the dragon wagon (which has a nice ring to it
Nakedjogger jumps on dragon for being defensive

Giving us the following VC for those two (pretty sure):

vikingfan

: acryon, SilverWolf, dragonspawn, Grib, Klingon, House, Kitz [L-4]

Dragonspawn

: Boonskiies, Pisskop, Aeronaut, vikingfan, Nakedjogger [L-6]

The dragonspawn wagon certainly smells like a counterwagon to a scum wagon. If it is, I suspect Aeronaut the most on the counterwagon (and of course vikingfan). Came in third on the wagon only after it clearly had a little traction and just sheeped Boon's reasoning (which isn't bad in and of itself, but it's hard to tell if Aero had his own reasons).

I completely agree with this analysis. vikingfan's lynch would be most informative because if he flips scum, we can look at the votes on dragon's wagon like Aero and pisskop more closely. If he flips town, dragon would be a good D2 vote.

But would scum vote for their buddy to stay off a mislynch wagon?

I don't think so.

[dragonspawn]

(Psst: dragonspawn is certifiable lynchbain. Hence my reluctance to join his wagon despite my own interest in voting for him)

Atm viking looks more like lynchbait to me.

Which supports a D1 viking lynch.

If he flips scum, it will ease my mind considerably about dragonspawn, because scum simply chose an easy target to draw heat away from their buddy.

If he flips town, it will get rid of a distraction and allow us to look for the actual scum instead of argue throughout the game.

Barring a player posting, "Hai guyz, I iz scumlol", viking's lynch is the most useful.

Not a bad plan. What if we are both town?

[SilverWolf]

(Psst: dragonspawn is certifiable lynchbain. Hence my reluctance to join his wagon despite my own interest in voting for him)

This is true, he tends to get lynched early and often in other games I've played and not been scum at the time which means he may not be now either.

[House]

(Psst: dragonspawn is certifiable lynchbain. Hence my reluctance to join his wagon despite my own interest in voting for him)

Atm viking looks more like lynchbait to me.

Which supports a D1 viking lynch.

If he flips scum, it will ease my mind considerably about dragonspawn, because scum simply chose an easy target to draw heat away from their buddy.

If he flips town, it will get rid of a distraction and allow us to look for the actual scum instead of argue throughout the game.

Barring a player posting, "Hai guyz, I iz scumlol", viking's lynch is the most useful.

TBH the more I look at your wagon, the less I want to lynch you. I'm scumreading 2 players on it and you're looking like a scapegoat.

I'm pretty confident a vikingfan lynch will clear you.
Not a bad plan. What if we are both town?

[House]

Quote derp.

[House]

(Psst: dragonspawn is certifiable lynchbain. Hence my reluctance to join his wagon despite my own interest in voting for him)

Atm viking looks more like lynchbait to me.

Which supports a D1 viking lynch.

If he flips scum, it will ease my mind considerably about dragonspawn, because scum simply chose an easy target to draw heat away from their buddy.

If he flips town, it will get rid of a distraction and allow us to look for the actual scum instead of argue throughout the game.

Barring a player posting, "Hai guyz, I iz scumlol", viking's lynch is the most useful.

Not a bad plan. What if we are both town?

TBH the more I look at your wagon, the less I want to lynch you. I'm scumreading 2 players on it and you're looking like a scapegoat.

I'm pretty confident a vikingfan lynch will clear you.

Fix't.

[SilverWolf]

That being said, my vote is still on vikingfan, because his posts have looked much worse than dragon's. I've got an FoS on dragon though.

I'm still trying to figure out why he's scummier than vikingfan.......................

Yeah, he isn't.

So looking at the votes:
Boon was the first to vote dragon
Pisskop sheeps Boon’s reason
Grib adds to vikingfan
Aero adds to dragon for the same reason as Boon and pisskop
Vikingfan jumps on dragon
Klingon places his vote for vikingfan (although the intent was clearly there already)
House jumps on, stating he is sheeping
Kitz jumps on vikingfan for disliking the way he addressed the dragon wagon (which has a nice ring to it
Nakedjogger jumps on dragon for being defensive

Giving us the following VC for those two (pretty sure):

vikingfan

: acryon, SilverWolf, dragonspawn, Grib, Klingon, House, Kitz [L-4]

Dragonspawn

: Boonskiies, Pisskop, Aeronaut, vikingfan, Nakedjogger [L-6]

The dragonspawn wagon certainly smells like a counterwagon to a scum wagon. If it is, I suspect Aeronaut the most on the counterwagon (and of course vikingfan). Came in third on the wagon only after it clearly had a little traction and just sheeped Boon's reasoning (which isn't bad in and of itself, but it's hard to tell if Aero had his own reasons).

I completely agree with this analysis. vikingfan's lynch would be most informative because if he flips scum, we can look at the votes on dragon's wagon like Aero and pisskop more closely. If he flips town, dragon would be a good D2 vote.

But would scum vote for their buddy to stay off a mislynch wagon?

I don't think so.

No, If vikingfan is scum, then dragon is more likely to be town with scum on his wagon. If he's town, then the votes on dragon are not as suspect.