NY 179: Cute and Fluffy Mafia (Town Win)

[The Dream Weaver]

VoteCount 4.6

d3x (0):

dragonspawn (0):

Dripping Goofball (0):

Flubbernugget(0):

Garmr (1):

d3x

I Am Innocent (0):

Kthxbye (0):

NakedJogger (1):

randomidget

Nero Cain (5):

Garmr, StrangerCoug, Flubbernugget, NakedJogger, dragonspawn

Peacebringer (0):

randomidget (3):

TheDudeAbides, Kthxbye, Dripping Goofball

StrangerCoug (3):

Nero Cain, I Am Innocent, Peacebringer

TheDudeAbides (0):

Not Voting

- No one.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2015-02-19 18:00:00).

Mod: In the hypothetical situation that there are masons in this game what would they rolecop as?

Mason would be the name of their role, so a rolecop would receive a "mason" result.

[TheDudeAbides]

This weekend, Sunday. Promise.

[TheDudeAbides]

I've seen DGB listing pen as derp, which was accurate, but wound up being on the lynch anyway. Is that what you mean?

No it was that so and so is confirmed scum post.

[TheDudeAbides]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: naked jogger
100% gut, I am having a hard time trying to put a csse togrther but I think they are scum.

He's obviously town, so if you're town, stop it.

[TheDudeAbides]

Someone asked who I thought was the more likely scum of my neighbours.

It's d3x.

[dragonspawn]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: naked jogger
100% gut, I am having a hard time trying to put a csse togrther but I think they are scum.

He's obviously town, so if you're town, stop it.

while I'm leaning town on him, how is he obviously town?

[Nero Cain]

The point I was trying to make was that your question has the same problem as I Am Innocent's—it will only ever attract WIFOM responses.

I think this game in general is WIFOM based but I'd like to hear your thoughts on what the scum motivation for my actions were.

NJ, why do you think I'm scum.

[Nero Cain]

I mean, obviously there's a bit of a conflict of interest 'cause I know that I'm town but I mean really? You guys think I bussed ika and then fake claimed a guilty on a guy that I knew was town and his town flip would ruin any "town cred" I may have gotten.

[dragonspawn]

Not really much of a conflict. You bussed your buddy to get town cred. You got caught and in order to avoid a lynch made a second fake claim so you could a) survive to the next day and b) come in today and make the argument that you're currently making.

The fact that you changed gambit doesn't make you less scum.

[d3x]

@dragon- Gun to your head right now, is DGB Scum?

[dragonspawn]

@dragon- Gun to your head right now, is DGB Scum?

If Nero is scum probably not. But who knows.

All the more reason for me to push for a Nero flip. We need the information. Otherwise day five becomes more is Nero scum and not likely any other good info.

[Nero Cain]

but that's the thing. You keep saying that I bussed. Why is it some impossibility that I you know just had a scum read on him?

Also never "changed a gambit"

So you think DGB (as town) fake claimed a guilty) and I, as scum, picked up on it and ignored the fact that I knew he was town to push his wagon to save myself from a few derp voters? go back to road to rome son. As TTH once said to me, you are making too many assumptions.

[d3x]

The Cop Claim came from DGB and not Nero.

Now read that sentence again.

The Cop Claim came from DGB and not Nero.

Good, thank you. It's been said a few times and yet you keep saying that Nero tried to stay alive with a Cop Claim. The thing is...

The Cop Claim came from DGB and not Nero.

I'm glad you've read it 3 times in rapid succession and have given it a chance to sink in. Now with that information in mind, explain how...

You got caught and in order to avoid a lynch made a second fake claim

[dragonspawn]

Because I don't ignore scum tells and you have two of them as well as your presumption that you were confirmed town for the the bus.

Already explained it.

[dragonspawn]

I AM A NEIGHBOR HOOD COP. I investigated ABR last nigh. He is guilty. The next 4 votes on him get town cred.

That doesn't look like dgb to me

[FakedBlogger]

NJ, why do you think I'm scum.

You fakeclaimed cop and got ABR who could've been PR lynched. Supposedly because DGB told you so. But your first post of the day was a vote on ABR with a "interesting " PS. Which suggests you crumbed a guilty on ABR which DGB wound up picking up, from what I can tell. Yet you blame her when clearly you've put the first element of the mislynch mechanism in place.

You've also claimed vig and didn't get NK-ed. Maybe because you said you'd vig RM who's death, if town, would've decimate towns ranks if you would've (been vig and shot him), but more likely because you're scum yourself.

Last but not least you've got your town meta to cover for you. Which one might think makes you less likely to be scum but I don't believe in meta tells. I do however believe that scum would ponder about using meta tells as a shield to hide behind when weighing the risks of pursuing their anti-town agenda. PB bringing it up and his unvote at its climax makes him more likely to be your scumbuddy and partner actor in the Nero-meta-diversion show.

[Nero Cain]

Nero can take a hint

, can you?

To be fair, I made him lie.

There's no "anti-town" agenda here. I had no reason to doubt DGB so me trying to take heat off her is the correct play as town. You guys need to be honest with yourselves. The ONLY reason that I'm in such hot water is that ABR flipped town. Its a really ridgid mindstate and ignoring the gamestate.

[d3x]

interesting.

vote:ABR

interesting.

vote:ABR

Yep. Nice crumbing of your cop result.

VOTE: ABR

OK then let's lynch ABR.

No way ABR wouldn't be on this lynch like white on rice if he were town.

And you crumbed a guilty, AMIRITE?

VOTE: ABR

ABR is on my wagon already. No guilty crumb.

What do you think of DS?

ABR is on my wagon already. No guilty crumb.

What do you think of DS?

Yes you do. You crumbed a guilty on ABR.

Why would ABR missed out on yesterday's ika wagon? ABR goes from wagon to wagon like a crack ho in a drive in movie parking lot.

I'd vote SC! Like him, Flubber and ABR have been super useless this game.

Yeah, that, and you have a COP GUILTY on ABR!

you have a COP GUILTY on ABR!

my bad, i forgot

vote:ABR

I have a cop guilty on ABR, whats not to understand?

Nero can take a hint, can you?

yea. Should I full claim?

I AM A NEIGHBOR HOOD COP. I investigated ABR last nigh. He is guilty. The next 4 votes on him get town cred.

To be fair, I made him lie.

Still standing behind that theory, dragon?

[PeaceBringer]

NJ, why do you think I'm scum.

You fakeclaimed cop and got ABR who could've been PR lynched. Supposedly because DGB told you so. But your first post of the day was a vote on ABR with a "interesting " PS. Which suggests you crumbed a guilty on ABR which DGB wound up picking up, from what I can tell. Yet you blame her when clearly you've put the first element of the mislynch mechanism in place.

You've also claimed vig and didn't get NK-ed. Maybe because you said you'd vig RM who's death, if town, would've decimate towns ranks if you would've (been vig and shot him), but more likely because you're scum yourself.

Last but not least you've got your town meta to cover for you. Which one might think makes you less likely to be scum but I don't believe in meta tells. I do however believe that scum would ponder about using meta tells as a shield to hide behind when weighing the risks of pursuing their anti-town agenda. PB bringing it up and his unvote at its climax makes him more likely to be your scumbuddy and partner actor in the Nero-meta-diversion show.

LOL, at one "vig" shot decimating town...

[FakedBlogger]

Nero can take a hint

, can you?

To be fair, I made him lie.

There's no "anti-town" agenda here. I had no reason to doubt DGB so me trying to take heat off her is the correct play as town. You guys need to be honest with yourselves. The ONLY reason that I'm in such hot water is that ABR flipped town. Its a really ridgid mindstate and ignoring the gamestate.

Let me get your story straight.
You thought a cop DGB would specifically, insistently hint at you to claim cop/guilty on ABR as to avoid detection by scum. - Holy shit. Are scum supposed to be blind or something? For the sake of argument though let's say she did, why would she trust you to do it, when you could be scum? Furthermore why would you trust her even if you were town.
Not to mention I specifically said there's no instance where a fakeclaim can be bottom-line beneficial for town.

AND you had no way of being sure about ABRs alignment yourself or seriously imagine that anyone else can either. Because ABRs "style" of playing mafia is reminiscent of sleepwalking.

DGB blows her implication out of proportion while you're scum laughing your ass of right now. You'll probably die of hypoxia if we don't lynch you. This is in your best interest.

[StrangerCoug]

The point I was trying to make was that your question has the same problem as I Am Innocent's—it will only ever attract WIFOM responses.

I think this game in general is WIFOM based but I'd like to hear your thoughts on what the scum motivation for my actions were.

NJ, why do you think I'm scum.

I presume that this was for answering for Flubbernugget, which you deny you did. I took it as poisoning the well, which can be scummy.

If you're talking about your actions generally... well, we've all explained it to death. NakedJogger's #2140 puts it quite succinctly.

[FakedBlogger]

LOL, at one "vig" shot decimating town...

Apparently I don't know what decimate means

[dragonspawn]

interesting.

vote:ABR

interesting.

vote:ABR

Yep. Nice crumbing of your cop result.

VOTE: ABR

OK then let's lynch ABR.

No way ABR wouldn't be on this lynch like white on rice if he were town.

And you crumbed a guilty, AMIRITE?

VOTE: ABR

ABR is on my wagon already. No guilty crumb.

What do you think of DS?

ABR is on my wagon already. No guilty crumb.

What do you think of DS?

Yes you do. You crumbed a guilty on ABR.

Why would ABR missed out on yesterday's ika wagon? ABR goes from wagon to wagon like a crack ho in a drive in movie parking lot.

I'd vote SC! Like him, Flubber and ABR have been super useless this game.

Yeah, that, and you have a COP GUILTY on ABR!

you have a COP GUILTY on ABR!

my bad, i forgot

vote:ABR

I have a cop guilty on ABR, whats not to understand?

Nero can take a hint, can you?

yea. Should I full claim?

I AM A NEIGHBOR HOOD COP. I investigated ABR last nigh. He is guilty. The next 4 votes on him get town cred.

To be fair, I made him lie.

Still standing behind that theory, dragon?

What theory? We've both just quoted where he fake claimed

[d3x]

The theory that the Claim is Nero's and that he did it as Scum trying to buy another Day without DGB being 100% Scum in that scenario.

Nero Voted, DGB pushed for a Cop Claim, and Nero said that it wasn't a Crumb. DGB kept pushing the Cop result and Nero acquiesced believing that DGB was pushing the result because she was the Cop. How is that not what you're reading? Did you read all of the quotes I posted?

[Kthxbye]

Nero, what's your read on DGB